"What happens when you die?"
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The concept of a soul was derived from religion. It explains how we get into the after-life, since our body remains on Earth.BlackandBlueMage said:
Though Atheists do have their own church, and the funny thing is, they also read the Bible. They don't believe in it, just that it has some good moral lessons.
"Nobody's ever died all the way and then come back to tell us. So we don't know. Different people think different things for different reasons."
This guy has a Scrubs avatar, you'd better do as he says.Sonic Doctor said:
OP: Tell him no one really knows.
NO! Scratch that! Tell him you go to Oblivion when you die! HELL YEAH!
No, they don't. The only thing that describes all atheists is that they don't actively maintain that 1 or more beings that could accurately be called "gods" exist.Sonic Doctor said:
*Some* atheists have a church, certainly. And some probably read the Christian Bible for moral lessons. But saying (or implying) that all atheists have some certain set of behaviors or beliefs above and beyond the unifying trait of atheists (namely, atheism) is as accurate as saying that all Christians believe in the doctrine of Papal Infallibility. Some is not the same as all.
This is excellent advice, and I admit that my wording was entirely unwarranted. Don't Post While Angry should be something with which everyone is familiar.Irony said:
I wasn't being as eloquent as I wanted (as usual), so I suppose I'll explain that now: while I was offended, that is a personal issue and irrelevant to the conversation. What I was attempting (and failing) to communicate was that facts and opinions are different issues, and presenting one as the other is at best ignorant and at worst deliberately misleading. Again, I should have practiced Don't Post While Angry, but I think my point remains valid.Harrowdown said:
Sorry, if I am trying to fast type my responses, I sometimes leave out words like "Some", I mean it, but I just accidentally leave them out.Father of Worlds said:
Yes, all who have Scrubs avatars are all knowing and all powerful. Bow before us!The Austin said:
Soon it will be the all knowing and all powerful Doctor Who gif avatar.(You know, I have been putting that off. I am just farting around here with four free days, that is what I will do, off to make a new avatar!)
I do agree with you, nobody knows. But I like to believe there is an after-life. Death isn't scary and it makes this life bearable.
I don't know what to say a kid at all about this topic. I think it depends maybe more on the personality of the child to begin with how they feel about death. I'm in my 20s and death still fucking scares me even though I'm aware of some of the philosophical arguments (such as death will happen no matter what, you didn't exist before you were born, etc) of why the fear of death is irrational and even though they are logical, I just can't seem to stop my emotional fear of it.
I think my consciouses will cease to exist which bothers the hell out of me but to me what is likely true is more important than what makes me feel good. I'm not one of those materialist that are fine with the fact of death. However, some people believe what I think is likely true and seem to live with minimal fear of death.
Some people actually hate the idea of heaven, (not even talking about hell) believe it or not. The idea of someplace were you have to be happy like some kind of illegal drug substance influencing your feelings for eternity celebrating some deity bothers some people.
Think of what the child's personality is like , and what will bother that particular child the least about death I think may be the best recommendation. I think my consciouses will cease to exist which bothers the hell out of me but to me what is likely true is more important than what makes me feel good.
I think my consciouses will cease to exist which bothers the hell out of me but to me what is likely true is more important than what makes me feel good. I'm not one of those materialist that are fine with the fact of death. However, some people believe what I think is likely true and seem to live with minimal fear of death.
Some people actually hate the idea of heaven, (not even talking about hell) believe it or not. The idea of someplace were you have to be happy like some kind of illegal drug substance influencing your feelings for eternity celebrating some deity bothers some people.
Think of what the child's personality is like , and what will bother that particular child the least about death I think may be the best recommendation. I think my consciouses will cease to exist which bothers the hell out of me but to me what is likely true is more important than what makes me feel good.
No worries. Just a pet peeve, having been repeatedly strawmanned on the basis solely of describing myself as an atheist. And, on that note, your earlier statement about belief in a soul negating one's atheism is also false. Example: Buddhists.Sonic Doctor said:
The idea of a soul may draw some of its history in western thought form religious sources, but it is neither dependent on, nor intrinsically related to, theism in any form. There are atheists that believe in an afterlife of some form (though I am fairly confident that, among the atheist population, they are in the minority), just as there are atheists who believe in a soul (again, though, minority).
Pet Sematary i do believe?ethaninja said:
OT: i would honestly tell them i don't know and don't claim to know, though i do lean towards believing in reincarnation because of a lot of my personal theories about how energy transfers in the universe
