While you don't have a bill though, the health care system in Canada...kinda...really sucks. The wait times are huge even for simple visits and the doctors tend to be highly rushed and stressed. Most visits come down to 'What are your symptoms? Here's a prescription". And that's for a simple visit. If you have more complex issues, like cancer, people have died waiting to get in to see a specialist.Sober Thal said:
But the other side of that is that insurance is easier to get/cheaper/more widely available.Sober Thal said:
There are so many people in my state who are actually claiming they will move to Canada because this passed. Which is, of course, like trying to avoid gang violence by moving to Mexico.SajuukKhar said:
Well, you have to be very careful here.mindlesspuppet said:
IKR, its kinda funny seeing the failblog picture of all the tweets of people saying they would go to Canada.peruvianskys said:
Brock Lesnar would beg to differ. I know that sounds like a strange statement, but it's a pretty well known example of the disparity in healthcare in the US vs Canada.Sober Thal said:
Except if you got hit by a bus tomorrow, you'd have no choice in the matter. You will be taken to an emergency room and they will fix you. And when you inevitably can't afford the $100,000+ price tag of emergency surgery, several days hospital stay, and post-op care, guess who picks up the tab? The government.Sonic Doctor said:
You are looking at this all wrong. You see yeah sure there is a tax. However, unlike every other tax on the books this tax can not be enforced through liens and seizures and non compliance will not be subject to criminal penalties. This reduces the associated tax to something akin to the charity stands that sell 50 cent lolipops on the honor system. This is a good thing I promise.Sober Thal said:
But most people can get healthcare through their employer!Sober Thal said:
Not that I don't agree with you, but who is to say if it's flawed or not before it's even been put in practice? Moreover, I don't think that any country has anything that could be considered even remotely close to flawless universal healthcare.lord.jeff said:
Well there's a little discussed provision in there, if I recall, that would only apply the fee if one could reasonably afford to pay. Those with income below a certain amount are exempt from the individual mandate. You fall under that category.Sonic Doctor said:
Actually I think the amount is at most 700 a year and I think they have plans for ways for low income people to reduce that further, since its added to the year end taxes, I'll bet you can take deductions from it and not end up needing to pay much if any of it if your low income. Not to mention if you manage to find a better deal from a private company you can just go with that.Sonic Doctor said:
That's why states offer welfare, which provide the jobless and the poor with retardedly good healthcare.Launcelot111 said:
I would say from what I have seen and know, hospitals are run just like a private business.Bertylicious said:
I thought that was only if you had a large income.Sober Thal said:
So you don't believe that people should be entitled to a basic standard of health, no matter their circumstances? People should be allowed to suffer with serious injuries and illnesses simply because they're poor?Sonic Doctor said:
