what is the best assault rifle?

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Antlers said:
You may find it a bit interesting (well ok, maybe not) to know that this thread was completely lost on me. I presume it's because I'm not American. I don't even know if you're talking about real rifles. Are any other British/Irish/non-Americans completely lost?
yes im talking about real rifles. i dont think it has anything to do with nationality. as far as the British go, i've seen quite a few RAF with what looked like M4 rifles. and for the Irish, i was told the choice rifle for the IRA is the AR-15. im prety sure that most countries have weapons, but i will admit, not to the extent that the american civilians do.
 

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I'm going to go with the FAMAS. because it's simple, effective, reliable, and has ambidextrious components.
It's only flaw is that it can be awkward to reload it but that's only due to the bullpup design.
 

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I really doubt the AK-47 is the best. Im no gun expert, but I do know the AK47 is a relic and is like comparing NES to a current system. Sure its more loved maybe, but better? Gamers just have a massive hard-on for it I think.
Or sometimes they legitimately got it right the first time. For example, the Browning 50 cal machine gun has been in use since the 1920s, with no end in the foresee able future. Sure there have been variants over there years, but the basic design remains largely the same.

Back to the OP, best assault rifle at doing what though? Depending on the scenarios the best weapon for the job is going to vary wildly. Weapons tend to be manufactured to serve or fall in certain parameters, one might be superior to another simply based on the fact that it was never designed for that role. If your are just looking for a baseline that it's probably best to examine what weapons are being used as the main assault rifle for their armed forces. Which means you are looking at the - AK-47, AK-74, FAMAS, G36, L85A1, M-16A4, M-4, TAR-21 and FN SCAR primarily(I'm sure I am missing a few).

If forced to choose I would say the FN SCAR H, but then again I'm not a bit fan of the 5.56 and prefer a higher stopping power, which some would technically specify as battle rifle not an assault rifle.
 

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it all depends on the situation
the M-16 is better for a well trained standing army that will be fighting well supplied and ranges because the M 16 has better accuracy and range

The Ak-47 on the other hand is better for a guerrilla force who will not be well supplied and be fighting against a Superiorly equipped army at close range due to its high reliability and big punch at short ranges
 

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US Crash Fire said:
Trendkill6 said:
It's only flaw is that it can be awkward to reload it but that's only due to the bullpup design.
or shoot if your left handed
That is why the Tavor RULES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj5Z5e8CUUM

It is totally ambidextrous. It can get dirty as hell too and still fire reliably. Just watch the video and be amazed!
 

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Well it all dpends on what kind of war your fighting, if its close in house to house, street to street then you want a bullpup design to save space.

if its more open ground then you want accuracy, this style allows for a longer barel allowing more accuracy and velocity.

If its jungle then you want something reliable and something that can cut through the branches and vines.
 

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I'm not a gun expert, have never fired a real firearm (air and pellet guns don't count)but I've seen some shows about firearms and they mentioned that the AK-47 was one of the most lethal rifles, with the M-16's, M-4 as a close second.
Both the M-16 and the AK-47 are very accurate, but the AK-47 is easier to train on, easier to clean and operate, highly reliable (it can be coated in mud, sand, immersed in water and basically kicked around and still fire.)
 

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I've very little knowledge to make an objective assessment. However, I've fired an M16 and an AK-47, and I preferred the former: lighter, less severe recoil, and I thought more accurate.
 

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Supreme Unleaded said:
Well it all dpends on what kind of war your fighting, if its close in house to house, street to street then you want a bullpup design to save space.

if its more open ground then you want accuracy, this style allows for a longer barrel allowing more accuracy and velocity.

If its jungle then you want something reliable and something that can cut through the branches and vines.
Watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj5Z5e8CUUM. The gun is everything you described.
 

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Hmmm, for me it's a tie between the L85A2 and the Valmet RK 95.

The L85A2 is hands down the best 5.56x45mm NATO rifle today. Most reliable, most accurate, shorter than an M4 carbine yet has a barrel the same length as an M16, gotta love the SUSAT sight.

The Valmet Rk95 comes in as one of the best due to it's accuracy (compared to other weapons of it's caliber), firepower and reliability. Although I don't like it's controls, but then again the controls are probably well suited for Nordic winters when you'll be wearing gloves.
 

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whiteblood said:
I would have to say either the AK-47, plus some way to reduce the recoil and increase stability. Either that or the XM8, due to its lightweight and versatility.
Xm-8 failed due to its heavyer weight than the m16
 

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i have to say i am a fan of the tavor as far as its power and accuracy but damn are bull pups hard to get used to because when you are used to using the m16 all the weight is right between your hands a great place for it on a bull pup its behind your hands against your shoulder and its just really really weird for a while
 

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US Crash Fire said:
Antlers said:
You may find it a bit interesting (well ok, maybe not) to know that this thread was completely lost on me. I presume it's because I'm not American. I don't even know if you're talking about real rifles. Are any other British/Irish/non-Americans completely lost?
yes im talking about real rifles. i dont think it has anything to do with nationality. as far as the British go, i've seen quite a few RAF with what looked like M4 rifles. and for the Irish, i was told the choice rifle for the IRA is the AR-15. im prety sure that most countries have weapons, but i will admit, not to the extent that the american civilians do.
Oh my. I think it has EVERYTHING to do with nationality. How many people here are in the RAF?! Or worse, the IRA? I mainly speak for Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure about other countries' attitudes. The majority in Ireland are NOT in the IRA. I would hazard a guess based on my general interaction with people for the last 20 years spent living here, that MOST Irish people hugely dislike the IRA. The same doesn't stand for the RAF. But I wouldn't say many gamers are in the RAF.

I wasn't having a dig anyway (I'll reserve my opinions on household guns on this thread). I was just surprised at what a culture shock it was.