What is the best written videogame ever?

thenamelessloser

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ProfessorLayton said:
Almgandi said:
Final Fantasy 6, the whole thing was just a gigantic opera with a vast cast of characters that werent just a bunch of side characters that had their 2 seconds of fame, a well connected story and one of the best villians ever
Absolutely. I hate to seem like a troll, but I don't know anyone who has played both FFVII and FFVI and genuinely liked FFVII better. The quality of the writing isn't even a contest.

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It's called "people who disagree with the opinions of Ayn Rand"
If you disagree, it's has even more philosophical value. I don't agree with her views, but I certainly enjoy reading about them. If you disagree and can explain why you do, then it strengthens your own opinions and helps you defend yourself. That's why the majority of atheists who have big debates with Christians actually read the Bible. It's so they can point out what they disagree with.
I'm not sure I agree with this either. It isn't about whether one disagrees or not with an argument or view, but with the quality of logic, evidence, and reasoning that leads to a view or used to justify a view. Someone making a poor argument trying to justify something I'm against doesn't mean it has philosophical value, if the flaws are too obvious.
 

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I always thought that Marathon's entire storyline was very well done. Special congratulations to it because the first installment was made only a year after Doom, where the entire story was something like "You are a space marine on Mars. Demons from Mars Hell come up and attack the facility. Kill them all."
 

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AlternatePFG said:
thenamelessloser said:
AlternatePFG said:
KOTOR 2 had some pretty good writing all things considered, too bad the rest of the game was such a mixed bag.
Did you ever play Planescape: Torment? Both games have the same head designer/writer I think.
Nah, I never had, but from all the praise I've heard of that game, I'm not surprised that the writing is so good.

I think Obsidian (I am aware that many people from Black Isle went over to Obsidian) is a bit underrated when it comes to the writing aspect. For some of their games at least
It's probably because their gameplay stops people from seeing all of their writing. KotOR 2's combat stopped being challenging about half way through searching for the masters due to weird scaling. NWN 2's initial campaign started out rather blandly. Planescape: Torment and Alpha Protocol are known for being some of the more buggy games to date (Despite having some of the best character customisation of any game), and Fallout 1 & 2 both had incredibly drawn out combat.

Edit: I totally forgot about New Vegas: Also buggy
 

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Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. Because in that game you were playing as an actual character, not a loosely defined person that your supposed to imprint your ideas on.
 

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I'd say Bioshock and FFVII. Alan Wake was also pretty well written, which was a given considering it being a story come to life.
 

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thenamelessloser said:
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Macgyvercas said:
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Macgyvercas said:
BioShock is the strongest answer to this question, IMO. No one can look at that game and say that it has no political/philosphical value whatsoever. And seeing as it draws heavily from Atlas Shrugged, if anyone did, they would wind up looking very foolish.
But what if you think that Atlas Shrugged had no political/philisophical value?
There are people who think that Atlas Shrugged has no political/philosophical value? That's news to me.
It's called "people who disagree with the opinions of Ayn Rand"
No, that isn't a good enough reason to say someone doesn't have political/philosophical value. Just because someone would disagree with Marx, Plato, Kant, etc, they wouldn't say that their writings didn't have philosophical value.
But if you disagree with the fundementals of objectivism then you would probably say that it had no social/philosophical value
 

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As mant people in this thread already stated I would go for Mass Effect 1&2 and Dragon Age: Origins. But then again I agree with many people and say almmost anything writen by Bioware.
 

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IBlackKiteI said:
LarenzoAOG said:
...the game is good at telling a story through it's world.
I know eh? Its brilliant, though it kinda sucks how those who just steamroll through the game won't notice the many little things which make Metro great.

I'm suprised Metro is so popular, it seems to be one of the most mentioned games at the moment other than Call of Duty, Mass Effect and Halo whatever.

Also IGN's horrendous review of it (they gave it a 6.9 because of occassional AI blunders and because the dumbass playing it couldn't do the stealth sections and somehow got stuck in a wall) is one of the most hated game related videos I've ever seen.
The Escapist's own Logan Westbrook hated it as well, he didn't like the fact Artyom didn't speak during gameplay and needed more capable allies to accomplish his goal, and that he seemed weak and fragile, these things are imperative to Artyom as a charecter, he's a kid who doesn't know how to fight and survive, it helps to amplify the survival-horror elements, it wouldn't be scary if you were a fucking space marine in power armor, he doesn't speak and needs powerful allies because he is an insecure child, the narration puts emphasis on the fact that during the entire adventure, and if he had played the game the way he should have he would have noticed Artyom doesn't know his father and all his allies are older men, after the child level where Artyom escorts that kid to safety his narration is more firm and he is put into more positions where he needs to fend for himself, showing that he has matured to adapt to his new situation. I'm calling you out Logan Westbrook, let's discuss this in a civil manner like the young, physically inept 20-something year olds we probably are! Everone else should play Metro 2033.