What is the difference between Art and Porn?

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Shoggoth2588

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All porn is art but not all art is porn. I can't have been the first person to say this and it's true. Porn isn't high art, GODS no but it's still art. It all comes down to how open the beholder is. To some people something like Basic Instinct would be pornographic. Other people can sit down to some Buck Angel with a bucket of popcorn and ask when 'the dirty part' will begin.
 

Vault101

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Regiment said:
I always assumed that the difference is that the intention of pornography is to be titillating. If it has any value as artwork or literature, it's art. If it is intended exclusively to sexually excite people, it's porn.
the child thing asside...is it so wrong for art to sexualy excite the vewier?
 

lechat

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i don't have 50 gigs of art on my hardrive
i don't browse firefox in private mode so noone knows what art i was looking at
a dead art star is usually more marketable than a dead porn star (sorry necrophiliacs)

a child is like a priceless piece of art
you get in trouble if you touch it

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Relish in Chaos

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Well, since anything can be art?there?s no real difference other than your own interpretation. I?ve watched what I?d define as some pretty artistic porn in my time. But just like porn, not all art is good. That?s where something called ?subjectivity? comes into play.

For example, three years ago, I remember an instance when I was reading the graphic novel of Watchmen during our ?reading hour? in my Music class, but my teacher confiscated it and reported me to my tutor because my idiot friend pointed out the sex scene between Nite Owl II and Silk Spectre II in it, and my teacher deemed it as ?inappropriate sexual material?.

If it was anyone else that tried to demean the importance of Watchmen as ?porn? rather than ?art?, I?d punch them in the face. OK, not really, but you get my drift. It was fucking stupid, and there was, like, one panel where you could see her nipple. I wouldn?t masturbate to that.

Not to mention that people have masturbated to nudity way before porn was invented, or more specifically, internet porn, and/or hentai. Not everyone masturbates to just porn. For some people, all they need is a picture of a girl in a tight miniskirt on deviantART to get them going.

Another example: anyone seen the film named Lost and Delirious? Well, short summary: it?s about a fifteen-year-old girl who arrives as a new student at an all-girls boarding school, when she discovers that her seventeen-year-old female roommates are in a relationship. There are multiple sex scenes between the two girls. Some people, including the director, would class it as art, because it explores social issues of the lesbian relationship, as well as how the two girls themselves don?t seem to class themselves as lesbian, and one of them pretty much goes insane when the other one decides to end it, but I don?t doubt that a number of people were waxing their pole when they saw Piper Perabo licking Jessica Paré?s nipples.

Ultratwinkie said:
Porn is when a man screws a woman.

Art is a man dressed like Uncle Sam screwing a woman with "American Taxpayer" printed on her forehead.

One is just porn, the other is porn but conveys a message.
I like this answer.

A couple of months ago, my friend sent me a link over Facebook to what I?d class as ?racist porn?. Some people would consider this art; I, personally, didn?t see the message in it, which is why I go back to the subject of ?subjectivity? and ?multiple interpretations?. Like how some people think that the Qu?ran is a great moral guide for everyone to follow, while others think it?s a violent, disgusting, and discriminative form of fascist propaganda.

Anyway, the video that my friend sent me ? obviously, this was all staged ? included a white man kidnapping a black woman in his car and taking her back to his house. Then he racially belittled her, before forcing her to eat watermelon while he anally raped her.

So, would that be porn or art? Or both? That?s the thing; there?s no one right answer. I bet some people would even say it?s not racist because it?s a sexual fantasy.

lechat said:
a child is like a priceless piece of art
you get in trouble if you touch it
Not if no-one knows about it.
 

DoPo

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Ugh, guys



'Tis a necro.

Itsmee said:
And he's the master of the black arts here! Wait...is...can necromancy be considered art? What is its relation to porn?
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Well one difference is that no one ever gets embarrassed when someone bursts in on them appreciating a Picasso.

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DoPo said:
Ugh, guys



'Tis a necro.

Itsmee said:
And he's the master of the black arts here! Wait...is...can necromancy be considered art? What is its relation to porn?
Ah God dammit! Now I'm going to look slow witted... more so than usual.
 

Alexi089

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It's all in the pronounciations of the 'Yah's!'

If everyone's saying 'Ja! Ja! Ja!' It's probably porn (german, specifically)

If, on the otherhand, everyone's saying 'Yaahhh', possibly followed with 'darling!' it's more likely to be art.

Serious answer: Honestly, I reckon it depends on how much authority your job offers you and whether you find something personally objectionable that swings the decision.

Edit: Also, there's too much art that's lazier and as meaningless as porn (I'm looking at your Emin and Hirst!) Two bits of a cow in plastic and a bed with bits of shit and semen all over it does not constitute art.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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It is relatively simple I'd say. Something crosses into pornography when the primary intention of the creator is for the content to elicit sexual excitement or the primary reaction of the audience is the same.
 

xDarc

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If you guys want to read an interesting case about how obscenity laws work, google the amateur action bbs. They were raided and shut down in the early 90s (back in my hay day) because a postal worker found the material offensive; and although the BBS was based in another state- the laws in the postal worker's state deemed the material to be obscene.

This is why a lot of 70s porn had narrative and plot; because technically all porn could be considered obscenity and therefore illegal unless it had some kind of artistic quality. (a story) There was a crack down when Reagan came into office, no thanks to Traci Lords who did a number of scenes underage; this caused hundreds of people to be arrested/investigated- but then in the late 80s/early 90s they started pushing the limits again and only the most disgusting stuff was ever prosecuted- typically the violent stuff.
 

sextus the crazy

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emeraldrafael said:
Pubic hair.

No, I'm not even joking. WAy back when, when all those elizabethan artists were painting stuff like the royals families, that was the one thing that was "forbidden". it made your art "dorogatory and low class".
Only then. Pubic hair has been used as an indicator for age, masculity and other such things since the early days. It doesn't necessarily represent pornography.

Hatchet90 said:
There is no difference, because porn IS art. The question lies on whether or not it's good art.
Yes. This. In fact, apply this statement to all mediums. Everything is art; whether it's good art or not is debatable.
 

Gigano

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"Porn" is meant to inspire but one feeling: Arousal. "Art" is meant to inspire in general.

Can something be "art" while featuring more or less integral parts which are "porn"? Of course!

As for a legal difference, such shouldn't be necessary: No "porn" which is fictional or depicting consenting adults should be outlawed, while no "art" which features real[footnote]Or for pragmatic reasons, fictional depictions so realistic that they're virtually indistinguishable there from.[/footnote] scenes of sexual acts not involving consenting adults should be allowed. The only thing which actually matter in a civilized legal system are the terms "realism" and "consenting adult", courts are not capable of deciding artistic merit, nor should any government institution wield such power.
 

Jolly Co-operator

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I never check over my shoulder nervously to make sure my parents don't catch me looking at art, for one thing.

Honestly, I have no idea, but I've seen some pretty interesting answers so far.
 

Olas

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
There isn't one. The definition of art is entirely subjective. If I think a puddle of vomit is art, then it's art.

I mean, I DON'T think that, but that's beside the point.
Pretty much this, anything that's put on display as art is art.

In 1917 Duchamp took a urinal and submitted it to an art museum as a work of art entitled Fountain.


It was eventually accepted and put on display in the studio of Alfred Stieglitz. Say what you want about it but it's a work of art now. Since then people have put on performing art by publicly peeing into it.