That was the Big Bertha and it's my favourite WWII weapon too. It weighed 150 tons and fired 1,160kg shells.Pinkamena said:What's the name of that cannon that was so large it was mounted on a train? That was cool.
Something which I find hilarious in light of Democrats wanting to ban assault weapons, but Joe Biden telling people to get shotguns.albino boo said:Sordin said:Err was the trench gun used in world war 2? Because that gun is quite the badass.Snotnarok said:Since I like shotguns in everything, Trench shotgun, if there's a technical name for it, I don't know it and I don't really care all I need is bang! click clack, bang! click clack.
Technically the Geneva convention bans the use of shotguns on the battlefield. During WW1 the US used a different interpretation of the convention and used shotguns. However by WW2 the shotgun had fallen out favour, because the smg was just as effective in the same role with no argument over its legality.
Therumancer said:Something which I find hilarious in light of Democrats wanting to ban assault weapons, but Joe Biden telling people to get shotguns.albino boo said:Sordin said:Err was the trench gun used in world war 2? Because that gun is quite the badass.Snotnarok said:Since I like shotguns in everything, Trench shotgun, if there's a technical name for it, I don't know it and I don't really care all I need is bang! click clack, bang! click clack.
Technically the Geneva convention bans the use of shotguns on the battlefield. During WW1 the US used a different interpretation of the convention and used shotguns. However by WW2 the shotgun had fallen out favour, because the smg was just as effective in the same role with no argument over its legality.
Otherwise my basic attitude is that in a real war there are no rules or humanitarianism. When one side plays by artificially imposed rules, and the other side does not, the guys that don't abide by them typically win, or wind up being able to stand off vastly superior forces. Most US military actions since World War II have been an example of this.
Another example is that the US loved it's flamethrowers, but I believe they have been banned also.
I've pointed out myself on many occasions that the biggest bastards win in wars, and as much as people want to knock the Nazis, the US won because we were so much more ruthless than they were at the end of the day. A surprising number of the "rules of war" were more directed at the US/Allies for the tactics used to beat the Nazis, as opposed to being aimed at "Nazi War Crimes". For example when it comes to bombings, a lot of people like to focus on the horrors of the Nazi "Blitz" and the attacks on the British with their airforce and V-1 and V-2 rockets. They tend to overlook the even more effective job done by guys like "Bomber" Harris who was decorated by both the US and Brits, and was known to the Germans as "Butcher" Harris. The guy who was once quoted as saying how he valued the lives of tens of thousands of german civilians less than the life of a single British Grenadier (or something similar to that)... that was the attitude that won the war. Then of course we have Patton who modern liberals argue should have been viewed as a War Criminal (of course we only won because of that attitude... the Nazis came very close to winning the war overall).
At any rate my favorite weapons from the "period" are believe it or not handguns. I think the German Lugar and the good old fashioned .45 (single action or otherwise) are among the most enduring designs, and are both in use to an extent today, and even have people using them in competitions, long after the retirement of most other weapons from the period. It's probably not hard to find someone using either of those handguns, even in the military (as a matter of preferance, when allowed) but finding someone who uses say the M1 for actual combat or competition shooting where there aren't specific rules in play, is probably going to be a lot harder.
No they don't. The only objection to their use was raised by the Germans in WW1, which was rejected.albino boo said:Technically the Geneva convention bans the use of shotguns on the battlefield. During WW1 the US used a different interpretation of the convention and used shotguns.
Agree on all counts, except I'd put the Kar98 for rifle.Scorched_Cascade said:I like the PPSh-41. That thing was (is?) badass. Fires standard Soviet pistol rounds, weighs 12 pounds, 71 rounds in the drum, 1000 rounds per minute, low maintenance, low cost and extremely durable. As for its counterparts: Sten was a cheap bullet hose and nothing more, Tommy gun was heavy (Soldiers complained about it), less durable and had a much lower rpm and the MP40 had malfunction issues because soldiers used to use the magazine as a foregrip and the gun had issues with that.
If they solved the PPSh-41 feeding issues and made it less likely to fire when dropped then this would've been the AK-47 of submachine guns.
In terms of other weapons:
StG 44 for assault rifles
Mosin Nagant for rifles
MG 42 for machine guns
Luger for pistols (but that's just because I like the design)
Potato masherModel 24 for grenades
If you mean "weapon" as in machine then I like Spitfires and Lancaster Bombers but that's mostly latent propaganda from my history lessons.
I am shocked... shocked to be ninja'd on this. Very happily so, mind you. They say it worked better than the other big two after sand, mud and water immersion, and proved ideal for jungle warfare. It served well into Vietnam.thaluikhain said:Owen gun, for me.
Outperformed the Sten and Thompson in tests (less jams).
Also, the magazine sticks up vertically from the gun. Which is different.
Big Bertha was a gun from WW1, not WW2, and it wasn't railroad mounted. Chances are kailus13 is thinking of the colossal 80cm superheavy guns Schwerer Gustav and Dora- the largest artillery piece ever used in combat, firing the largest artillery shells ever.kailus13 said:That was the Big Bertha and it's my favourite WWII weapon too. It weighed 150 tons and fired 1,160kg shells.Pinkamena said:What's the name of that cannon that was so large it was mounted on a train? That was cool.
You think the Tiger was too heavy for its own good?! Nowhere near as bad as the King Tiger... which used the same freakin' engine (Maybach HL230 P30) as the Panther! A tank weighing more than 25tonnes less... eeesh...Barciad said:The German Tiger Tank had better armour and a more powerful gun, but it was expensive as hell to build and too heavy for its own good.
They had similar things in WW2, they just weren't really used. Things made to defend the UK against German invasion, for example, only Operation Sealion would have been a complete disaster for the Germans.Hawk of Battle said:This monster;
I know it's actually WWI, but who cares, it's a giant fucking flamethrower!
Was the Panther a better tank than the T-34? I would say that the T-34 was sturdier, more practical, easier to use, and cheaper to build. Yet the Panther was the more refined model. However, the question is, which tank gave you more bang for your buck? Remember this was a building war. No one said it better than Joseph Stalin himself when he said:-SckizoBoy said:You think the Tiger was too heavy for its own good?! Nowhere near as bad as the King Tiger... which used the same freakin' engine (Maybach HL230 P30) as the Panther! A tank weighing more than 25tonnes less... eeesh...
Silliness aside, I am personally partial to the aforementioned Pzkpfw V. Once all its teething problems were sorted out, it was generally superior to every allied tank in terms of performance and the KwK 42 L70 was a brilliant gun despite being only a 75mm. Hell, it was rated better than the KwK 36 L56 (the characteristic 88mm gun) in virtually every way.
Interesting fact time: production cost of a Panther (in 1940 money): approx. 120000RM = USD29000. Production cost of a T-34 in 1942: approx. 190000 rubles = USD35800 (though it did decrease to about 130000 rubles in 1943).
Yeah, oddly, the Panther was cheaper to produce for pretty much the same all round performance (dodgy early reliability notwithstanding, but shut up! I like the damned panzer.). -.-