http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animalsgamezombieghgh said:It'd be nice if you provided an example of animals that use tools. Thanks for passively aggressively saying my answer was bad. You asked what makes us human, I gave an answer that you dismiss without justifying why, I hope it doesn't stay that way. Who are you to say what is a 'good' answer? You obviously made a thread asking, so I suspect you either have no idea but don't like my idea, or you already had thoughts in your head that you wanted to be reinforced rather than considering ideas that you don't like as much. I'd say that intelligence determines whether an alien race is on the same level as us.Merkavar said:but many animals use tools.gamezombieghgh said:I'd say its purely a genetic thing ie having a certain chromosome arrangement. But to make my post less blunt and boring, I'll say that the capacity to use tools is highly important in what a human is IMO.
i think asking what makes use human wont get any good answers.
i think a better question would be what does a life form other than humans have to do to be deemed to be on the same level as us. like say we find a planet with life. can we just go there and kill and eat everything cause they are just animals or because of some reason be it language, tool use, society, burying their dead, we give them them same rights as us humans. so we are not allowed to kill them or take their land or use them like beasts of burden.
The problem with this is, we can't really say that this is a result of love and not something else. This is one of the major problems faced by animal research. It is very easy to anthropomorphize them and wind up with results that are entirely false. I'm not saying swans don't feel strong emotions (there's enough evidence of animals feeling emotion that this certainly isn't beyond the realm of possibility), only that an animal appearing to be acting as a result of emotion may not actually be the case, or the emotion may not be what we think it is (how many people think their dog looks 'guilty' when really the dog can just tell by the owner's behavior that the owner is mad, so they are simply being submissive?)rollerfox88 said:Animals love too though. Swans mate for life, and if their partner dies they will often become depressed, lose their appetite and pine away to an early grave. If that isnt love, I dont know what is.
a biological relationship that is an indefinite monogomy doesn't equate to love.rollerfox88 said:Animals love too though. Swans mate for life, and if their partner dies they will often become depressed, lose their appetite and pine away to an early grave. If that isnt love, I dont know what is.shadow_Fox81 said:Love.
its all we think about, its all we search for and it's the only thing we'll never understand.
Love is what makes me human, and it is a crooked thing.
I don't think love felt as a mechanic makes it pure it makes it hollow.Dread Skavos said:Many birds and mammals experience love, but yes, man's way to use it as a tool or a weapon seems unique, making other animals that love seem to love in a more pure way, ironically.shadow_Fox81 said:Love.
its all we think about, its all we search for and it's the only thing we'll never understand.
Love is what makes me human, and it is a crooked thing.
Explain how saying "we have to be careful that we aren't merely anthropomorphizing animals" elevates the human condition beyond scrutiny?rollerfox88 said:Hey, lots of people dont believe people feel love, if Im guilty of anthropomising swans, youre guilty of elevating the human condition beyond scrutiny
If they are acting differently due to a biochemical reaction then it isn't different. But just because their actions APPEAR to match what humans do as a result of emotion does not necessarily mean the swans are feeling emotion. Again, I'm not saying swans don't have emotions, only that we have to be careful to separate what is actually happening from our own biases....why isnt them acting differently due to a biochemical reaction to a fellow swan any different from when we do the exact same thing with each other?