its not that they were that bad of movies, it was how much inferior to the original trilogy they were. Turning Darth Vader into a whiny little *****, the phantom menace having no main protagonist, and of course Jar Jar Binks all kept episode 1,2,and 3 from being as good as episode 4,5,and 6.
What Ruined the Star Wars Prequels? (If you didn't like them?)
- Thread starter Wonderland
- Start date
To me this just seems like you weren't paying attention or something. While Christensens's acting was subpar at best, the motives for Anakin to do what he did are quite clearly lined out over the trilogy. You're practically smacked over the head with it.Michael Hirst said:
For me, the movie just takes itself too seriously. Go watch the first three again. Look how many times the actor look like they are on the brink of laughter. Look at the times they high five, laugh, congratulate each other. The prequels were so grim and serious it just became an annoyance. Revenge of the Sith was the best one though. And while Phantom Menace was bad, the reason people hate some of the other ones is just nitpicking. I have heard countless complaints about how Padme's midriff was exposed after the lion attack in Attack of the Clones. So, a midriff is disgusting and should be kept off screen, but slave Leia is okay?
(Note: Thank God for spellcheck!)
(Note: Thank God for spellcheck!)
They were legitimately written and directed by George Lucas instead of being handled by the more competent people who actually handled the first three.
So we're not allowed to dislike it because other people dislike it? Even if you like them you can't deny that they're full of plot-holes, shitty acting from decent actors and a serious overuse of CGI which I would partly blame on the bad acting.TheBelgianGuy said:
Having said that, I still enjoy The Phantom Menace. The other two can fuck off and that that crappy, forced "love" story with it.
Also:
*shudder*
Awful, awful acting.
My favorite characters were the clone soldiers, ironically, they acted real professional and digified, even likable.
like how abi-wan loses his light-sabre in the third movie and that clone soldiers picks it up to bring it back to him, what a swell guy!
like how abi-wan loses his light-sabre in the third movie and that clone soldiers picks it up to bring it back to him, what a swell guy!
TestECull said:
No, not because we said so, because there is a 100+ actual factual reasons why these movies suck: as movies and as star-wars prequels (which you would know if you didn't ignore a review that explained it all). You have to understand when something is so obviously terrible, people will stand up and voice their outrage, especially if it is something they feel cheated over. If someone goes to a restaurant and their food has hairs and bugs in it, then they have every right in the world to both complain and share their grievances with the world so everyone knows not to eat at that place, even if you personally - for some reason or another - like to eat hairs and bugs. It doesn't mean you have to stop, just that you are going to have to accept that trying to defend anything so abhorrent to taste, intelligence and human dignity is going to raise some eyebrows and attract only negative attention.
Pb Zeppelin said:
This... This hurts me in such a way that I have never been hurt before.
I think I'm going to go lay down for a bit.
Owwww...
Anakin. I had no sympathy for his reactions to events in his life. He was a whiney, overreacting little ***** of a character. Top that off with bad overused CGI and terrible dialogue.
KOTR was a better SW story in my opinion. Hell, anything with Kyle Katarn for the win.
KOTR was a better SW story in my opinion. Hell, anything with Kyle Katarn for the win.
Irritating child Anakin
Whiny teenage Anakin
Focusing on Anakin being Space Jesus
Not having a simple and definite threat
Not being coherent
Not making sense
MITACHLORIANS!!!
Trade Federation wants to stop space trade... Why?
Who the fuck is General Grievious?
Turning Yoda into a migit space ninja rather his original role of pacifist monk
Telling not showing
Using lesser Sith Lord as disposable level bosses
NO GOOD SPACE BATTLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you ask me the empire should have been a palpable threat from the start of the trilogy, Obi Wan Kenobi should have been a young Jedi sent as a bodyguard for someone important, say Senator Bail Organa fulfilling continuity with Leia's later message in the original Star Wars film.
There should be an emerging threat to the Republic in a particular region of space and senators are being assassinated covertly.
During a mission to this region of space Obi Wan meets a young Republican star-pilot called Anakin Skywalker whom he befriends. In an attempt on Bail Organa's life (An awesome space battle.) he discovers Anakin's latent abilities with the force and decides to train him despite Anakin being too old and Obi Wan not being a Jedi-Master.
Anakin for his part falls for Bail Organa's daughter Padme who is acting as an aide to the senator in training for the day that she might take over his posistion; though she remains cool to this rougish show off.
During the mission they discover that the renagades are building a massive fleet of "Star Destroyers" and are raising a giant army using cloning techniques (The clones are not all the same and are definitely not based on Boba Fett.)
The Senate, lead by a charismatic Senator named Palpatine is advocating annexation despite Bail Organa's efforts at diplomacy. This leads to the region's outright split from the Republic and it invades a nearby region of space.
An expeditionary force is sent to contain the Renegade fleet (Giant Space Battle.) the renegade systems are suppressed but the massive fleet and legions of clones survive. Anakin is named hero of the battle and wins Padme's affections.
Continued in Episode 2
Whiny teenage Anakin
Focusing on Anakin being Space Jesus
Not having a simple and definite threat
Not being coherent
Not making sense
MITACHLORIANS!!!
Trade Federation wants to stop space trade... Why?
Who the fuck is General Grievious?
Turning Yoda into a migit space ninja rather his original role of pacifist monk
Telling not showing
Using lesser Sith Lord as disposable level bosses
NO GOOD SPACE BATTLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you ask me the empire should have been a palpable threat from the start of the trilogy, Obi Wan Kenobi should have been a young Jedi sent as a bodyguard for someone important, say Senator Bail Organa fulfilling continuity with Leia's later message in the original Star Wars film.
There should be an emerging threat to the Republic in a particular region of space and senators are being assassinated covertly.
During a mission to this region of space Obi Wan meets a young Republican star-pilot called Anakin Skywalker whom he befriends. In an attempt on Bail Organa's life (An awesome space battle.) he discovers Anakin's latent abilities with the force and decides to train him despite Anakin being too old and Obi Wan not being a Jedi-Master.
Anakin for his part falls for Bail Organa's daughter Padme who is acting as an aide to the senator in training for the day that she might take over his posistion; though she remains cool to this rougish show off.
During the mission they discover that the renagades are building a massive fleet of "Star Destroyers" and are raising a giant army using cloning techniques (The clones are not all the same and are definitely not based on Boba Fett.)
The Senate, lead by a charismatic Senator named Palpatine is advocating annexation despite Bail Organa's efforts at diplomacy. This leads to the region's outright split from the Republic and it invades a nearby region of space.
An expeditionary force is sent to contain the Renegade fleet (Giant Space Battle.) the renegade systems are suppressed but the massive fleet and legions of clones survive. Anakin is named hero of the battle and wins Padme's affections.
Continued in Episode 2
I enjoyed them. There are things I didn't like such as the overuse of CGI and the funny looking lightsaber battles, but overall I have no deal ending problems with them. I can admit to enjoying the scenes with Jar-Jar and when I was younger I even trained my voice to be able to imitate his.
In the last Episode we saw our heroes thwart a threat to the Republic. It is a victory won at at great cost however. The Republican fleet is severely depleted and the remainder or the Renegade fleet and the many thousands of clones are still at large. Lawlessness is becoming rampant. Without the fleet the Republic is losing control to corruption and organised crime.
The leader of the renegade Fleet Mof Tarkin gains a foothold in a desperate region of space and institutes order via military law (Awesome space and ground battle.).
While the act is condemned in the senate some see it as a pathway back to Pax Republica. Chief among them Senator Palpatine who is currently being guarded by Obi Wan and Anakin. He sets off on a mission with them to woo Mof Tarkin into accepting amnesty and replenish the Republican Fleet.
Obi Wan has great reservations about this plan. He see's the potential slide into fascism. Anakin is far more positive however as he has seen his home system Tattooine slide into anarchy.
Meanwhile Padme is pregnant. This being a political scandal within the senate and the Jedi Consulate Padme is forced to flee home to Alderaan and her father is politically stymied.
The mission is a success. Mof Tarkin is won over by the platitudes of the seductive senator however Obi Wan overhears their discussion and learns of Palpatine's plans for subordinating the democracy of the Republic and instituting a reigme of tight militaristic control.
He confronts Palpatine who reveals himself to be a Sith Lord. During the fight Anakin enters. Torn between loyalty to his friend and the politics he believes in Anakin chooses the latter and sides with Palpatine. Outnumbered during the confrontation Obi Wan is forced to rend an arm from Anakin's body to escape.
Anakin is saved by Palpatine though he is gravely injured.
Knowing that the Senator will be unstoppable with an army behind him Obi Wan considers his options.
Continued in episode 3.
The leader of the renegade Fleet Mof Tarkin gains a foothold in a desperate region of space and institutes order via military law (Awesome space and ground battle.).
While the act is condemned in the senate some see it as a pathway back to Pax Republica. Chief among them Senator Palpatine who is currently being guarded by Obi Wan and Anakin. He sets off on a mission with them to woo Mof Tarkin into accepting amnesty and replenish the Republican Fleet.
Obi Wan has great reservations about this plan. He see's the potential slide into fascism. Anakin is far more positive however as he has seen his home system Tattooine slide into anarchy.
Meanwhile Padme is pregnant. This being a political scandal within the senate and the Jedi Consulate Padme is forced to flee home to Alderaan and her father is politically stymied.
The mission is a success. Mof Tarkin is won over by the platitudes of the seductive senator however Obi Wan overhears their discussion and learns of Palpatine's plans for subordinating the democracy of the Republic and instituting a reigme of tight militaristic control.
He confronts Palpatine who reveals himself to be a Sith Lord. During the fight Anakin enters. Torn between loyalty to his friend and the politics he believes in Anakin chooses the latter and sides with Palpatine. Outnumbered during the confrontation Obi Wan is forced to rend an arm from Anakin's body to escape.
Anakin is saved by Palpatine though he is gravely injured.
Knowing that the Senator will be unstoppable with an army behind him Obi Wan considers his options.
Continued in episode 3.
The Republic has fallen into disarray after defeating a renegade province. To rectify this Senator Palpatine has successfully turned Mof Tarkin and the renegade fleet to his side and has returned to Courusent. Once there he moves that the Republic is in extreme peril. He calls a motion for him to made Governor Absolute for the duration of the crisis and that the Fleet and Clone Legions should be set to restoring order to the Galaxy.
He adds the additional motion that the Jedi Order are to be considered dangerous outlaws using the testimony of a severely crippled Anakin as evidence. As a reward Palapatine knights Anakin as Lord Vadar, his right hand. He sends Vader on a mission to exterminate the Jedi a task he excels in.
Meanwhile Obi Wan arrive to late to stop the senate decision. He flees to his master Yoda for advice. Yoda tells him that the only hope is to confront this new Lord Vader with the people who love him most and turn him against this new dictator. To this end Obi Wan flies to Alderaan.
Padme Organa has given birth to a daughter Leia, but she hears that the father of her child is supporting a totalitarian take over of the Republic, something she cannot counternance and on the return of Obi Wan she makes the difficult decision to leave her newborn child and confront her former lover, hoping to turn him from his new dark course.
Their meeting is bittersweet. They are angry at each other for supporting the opponents cause. She lures him with the act of love but Anakin/Vader realises that Obi Wan is nearby and accuses him of mind-tricking Padme into trapping him. Despite Padme's assurances to the contrary Obi Wan is again forced into fighting Anakin. This time Anakin doesn't lose a simple limb; he is thrown into an energy reactor destroying much of his human body.
Obi Wan and Padme escape (coincidently!!!!!!!!) to the planet of Tatooine and find shelter with Anakin's family. Padme wants to stay with her newborn son but Obi Wan warns her that she could never protect him from Vader. Old Ben will watch after this newborn Luke; a force sensitive to rival his father. She needs to take the little they can scrape for an interstelller ticket and go start the rebellion against the empire.
The saga will continue in Episode 4: A New Hope.
He adds the additional motion that the Jedi Order are to be considered dangerous outlaws using the testimony of a severely crippled Anakin as evidence. As a reward Palapatine knights Anakin as Lord Vadar, his right hand. He sends Vader on a mission to exterminate the Jedi a task he excels in.
Meanwhile Obi Wan arrive to late to stop the senate decision. He flees to his master Yoda for advice. Yoda tells him that the only hope is to confront this new Lord Vader with the people who love him most and turn him against this new dictator. To this end Obi Wan flies to Alderaan.
Padme Organa has given birth to a daughter Leia, but she hears that the father of her child is supporting a totalitarian take over of the Republic, something she cannot counternance and on the return of Obi Wan she makes the difficult decision to leave her newborn child and confront her former lover, hoping to turn him from his new dark course.
Their meeting is bittersweet. They are angry at each other for supporting the opponents cause. She lures him with the act of love but Anakin/Vader realises that Obi Wan is nearby and accuses him of mind-tricking Padme into trapping him. Despite Padme's assurances to the contrary Obi Wan is again forced into fighting Anakin. This time Anakin doesn't lose a simple limb; he is thrown into an energy reactor destroying much of his human body.
Obi Wan and Padme escape (coincidently!!!!!!!!) to the planet of Tatooine and find shelter with Anakin's family. Padme wants to stay with her newborn son but Obi Wan warns her that she could never protect him from Vader. Old Ben will watch after this newborn Luke; a force sensitive to rival his father. She needs to take the little they can scrape for an interstelller ticket and go start the rebellion against the empire.
The saga will continue in Episode 4: A New Hope.
Well, no, its both.Mr.Tea said:
He's tricked into being alienated by everyone else but Palpatine, he's still seduced by the notion that he can become more powerful.
Its far better for him to go to the Dark Side to save Padme, and then be redeemed by saving his son, than it is for him to join in the first place just so he can get his rocks off on super-duper power.