What should be done with Miis?

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EBHughsThe1st

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Ah, yes. Miis. The digital and simplistic persona used to play fake sports. Charming. Cute, almost. And simple.
But, I think Miis need to be used a little better than they are. Right now, the only few games using them are either first-party games, or as simple icons. There are exceptions, mind you, but I think the idea has much more potential.

I want, like, a Wii Adventure. You play as your Mii and run around lush, 3D environments, filled with other Miis, compelled by a simplistic story. That sounds good. But, the Mii is really underused, and Nintendo might never get around to this. Which kind of sucks.

What do you think?
 

Tartarga

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So it would be like an MMO of some kind? That could be cool I guess, although it would probably be difficult to pull off.
 

Taxman1

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I'd imagine in such a game there would be 20 different Batmans everywhere.
 

LeonLethality

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Even as a joke that was just plain stupid.
Go look at the environments in Monster Hunter Tri or Super Mario Galaxy 2 and then shut up because your reply will still just be something along the lines of "they still look bad" or some other wii bashing shit.
 
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Nothing can be done to the miis. Their suffering is already absolutely simply due to their horrifying existence.

Oh, you mean in terms of games.

You're talking about character customization, and it's been done (better) waaaaay before miis were invented.
 

LeonLethality

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
LeonLethality said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Even as a joke that was just plain stupid.
Go look at the environments in Monster Hunter Tri or Super Mario Galaxy 2 and then shut up.
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Yeah, I've seen those before. They're nice, but the PS3, the 360, and my PC can all render things much more beautiful. For what it is, the Wii is fine, but that's not saying much. I own all 3 systems, and play each one occasionally. The Wii just isn't up to snuff in any way, especially graphics. Don't get me wrong, graphics aren't everything, gameplay is pretty damn important too. Some of the games are damn fun, but most look pretty crappy. I almost thought that Metroid Prime 3 was being released on the Xbox or maybe even the Dreamcast, but then I saw it was on the Wii and was amazed. Then I looked at other games on other systems, and my amazement faded. It wasn't a joke, it was serious. Nintendo needs to learn that some of us aren't casual gamers and some of us lie our games to be in a higher resolution than 480p, while still having Nintendo's quality gameplay. I realise that if Nintendo were to make an HD system, the development costs would be higher, and the gameplay may suffer a bit, but Nintendo is a profit making MACHINE, making the costs less of an issue. Nintendo first party title in HD would sell better than anything.
You sure do sound like you are saying graphics are everything. Also did you see our examples? Yeah the Wii has great gameplay too. I hate when people say the Wii is bad compared to other current generation systems because it isn't as strong. That's like saying any previous generation sucks because they were not as strong as this generation. All those beautiful games and great games from the last few generations, all crap because they are not HD.
 

LeonLethality

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I'm not saying that graphics are everything, I'm saying that it's the main area the Wii suffers. Gameplay has suffered a bit from the use of motion control, but it has also been strengthened by it (only when done right, like MP3). Games from previous generations aren't shit because their graphics suck, that's just silly. The tech wasn't currently around (with the exception of PCs), so saying that something like Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker or Halo suck because the graphics are outdated is just dumb. The Wii was made in a time when the tech was there, and was at a price that is affordable, so they didn't have too much of a reason to not use it. It's even sillier now, since more people have HDTV's than not, and even analog cable isn't available anymore.
Just because technology is available does not mean it needs to be used. People have made great games on the Wii without the power of PCs or the other consoles. Heck lots of them don't even have motion control or have it entirely optional. As I said, because it is there does not mean it has to be used. Heck because the wii is behind in technology and such it has let developers be far more creative or take bigger risks, The best games for the wii are diverse from each other while the best games on other consoles all seem to be FPS or established franchise games because they are so expensive to make that developers can't afford to take risks.

I'd stick with old technology with fun games that don't have huge polygon counts than sacrificing gameplay so that the game can look good.
 

BENZOOKA

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I don't like Miis that much. It's alright that they're simplistic, but I just don't like they're basic form.

I don't have a Wii[footnote]don't have any consoles for that matter[/footnote], and have played so little with Wii, that I can't really say what could be done with them.
 

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Well, the Miis could be used as cheap labor in the factories powering the Nintendo invasion....

Wait, what?

OT: Meh. I wasn't as miffed by them as some folks. They're just... there.
I haven't played my wii in forever, so it's not really an issue for me.
 

Aura Guardian

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
LeonLethality said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Even as a joke that was just plain stupid.
Go look at the environments in Monster Hunter Tri or Super Mario Galaxy 2 and then shut up.
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Yeah, I've seen those before. They're nice, but the PS3, the 360, and my PC can all render things much more beautiful. For what it is, the Wii is fine, but that's not saying much. I own all 3 systems, and play each one occasionally. The Wii just isn't up to snuff in any way, especially graphics. Don't get me wrong, graphics aren't everything, gameplay is pretty damn important too. Some of the games are damn fun, but most look pretty crappy. I almost thought that Metroid Prime 3 was being released on the Xbox or maybe even the Dreamcast, but then I saw it was on the Wii and was amazed. Then I looked at other games on other systems, and my amazement faded. It wasn't a joke, it was serious. Nintendo needs to learn that some of us aren't casual gamers and some of us lie our games to be in a higher resolution than 480p, while still having Nintendo's quality gameplay. I realise that if Nintendo were to make an HD system, the development costs would be higher, and the gameplay may suffer a bit, but Nintendo is a profit making MACHINE, making the costs less of an issue. Nintendo first party title in HD would sell better than anything.
So in order to look good...it's gotta be in HD. So brown and gray huh? And gameplay suffers? How? Gameplay is what Nintendo focuses on and for a good reason. And because the Wii isn't in HD, more developers can take risks because it doesn't cost a lot to make a game. APB,Alpha Protocol are examples of risks that didn't pay off.
 

Aura Guardian

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
LeonLethality said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Even as a joke that was just plain stupid.
Go look at the environments in Monster Hunter Tri or Super Mario Galaxy 2 and then shut up.
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Yeah, I've seen those before. They're nice, but the PS3, the 360, and my PC can all render things much more beautiful. For what it is, the Wii is fine, but that's not saying much. I own all 3 systems, and play each one occasionally. The Wii just isn't up to snuff in any way, especially graphics. Don't get me wrong, graphics aren't everything, gameplay is pretty damn important too. Some of the games are damn fun, but most look pretty crappy. I almost thought that Metroid Prime 3 was being released on the Xbox or maybe even the Dreamcast, but then I saw it was on the Wii and was amazed. Then I looked at other games on other systems, and my amazement faded. It wasn't a joke, it was serious. Nintendo needs to learn that some of us aren't casual gamers and some of us lie our games to be in a higher resolution than 480p, while still having Nintendo's quality gameplay. I realise that if Nintendo were to make an HD system, the development costs would be higher, and the gameplay may suffer a bit, but Nintendo is a profit making MACHINE, making the costs less of an issue. Nintendo first party title in HD would sell better than anything.
So in order to look good...it's gotta be in HD. So brown and gray huh? And gameplay suffers? How? Gameplay is what Nintendo focuses on and for a good reason. And because the Wii isn't in HD, more developers can take risks because it doesn't cost a lot to make a game. APB,Alpha Protocol are examples of risks that didn't pay off.
Because everything in HD is brown and gray. Go play something other than CoD, then try making a point.
And COD isn't the only game that is brown and gray. Fallout 3/NV and S.T.A.L.K.E.R for example. And whats funny is that the examples I first used should have told you what I play
 

AceAngel

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Oh, wow, you guys must really love E-Phalluses to be debating this point...WHEN THE TOPIC IS ABOUT MII'S! Not who has more Brown or is Capable of rendering what.

You sad people...
 

Aura Guardian

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
LeonLethality said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Even as a joke that was just plain stupid.
Go look at the environments in Monster Hunter Tri or Super Mario Galaxy 2 and then shut up.
Aura Guardian said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
lush, 3D environments
Implying that the Wii can handle such things. I lol'd.
Yeah, I've seen those before. They're nice, but the PS3, the 360, and my PC can all render things much more beautiful. For what it is, the Wii is fine, but that's not saying much. I own all 3 systems, and play each one occasionally. The Wii just isn't up to snuff in any way, especially graphics. Don't get me wrong, graphics aren't everything, gameplay is pretty damn important too. Some of the games are damn fun, but most look pretty crappy. I almost thought that Metroid Prime 3 was being released on the Xbox or maybe even the Dreamcast, but then I saw it was on the Wii and was amazed. Then I looked at other games on other systems, and my amazement faded. It wasn't a joke, it was serious. Nintendo needs to learn that some of us aren't casual gamers and some of us lie our games to be in a higher resolution than 480p, while still having Nintendo's quality gameplay. I realise that if Nintendo were to make an HD system, the development costs would be higher, and the gameplay may suffer a bit, but Nintendo is a profit making MACHINE, making the costs less of an issue. Nintendo first party title in HD would sell better than anything.
So in order to look good...it's gotta be in HD. So brown and gray huh? And gameplay suffers? How? Gameplay is what Nintendo focuses on and for a good reason. And because the Wii isn't in HD, more developers can take risks because it doesn't cost a lot to make a game. APB,Alpha Protocol are examples of risks that didn't pay off.
Because everything in HD is brown and gray. Go play something other than CoD, then try making a point.
And COD isn't the only game that is brown and gray. Fallout 3/NV and S.T.A.L.K.E.R for example. And whats funny is that the examples I first used should have told you what I play
Fallout 3/NV and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. may be brown and gray, but they're pretty damn fun, so it's forgivable. Halo can get pretty monotonous too, though less brown and more gray. Forza 3 I'll agree with you, though I could be a dick and say that roads are pretty gray. :p

Now, to be fair, Monster Hunter Tri is pretty brown and gray too. Metroid Prime 3 manages to look good, be colourful, and it's fun, same with games like Vanquish and Phantasy Star Universe (though that one isn't quite as good as Vanquish on quality, it is quite colourful).
No denying the fun in those games. They are fun. HAHAHA. Good call with the Forza one.

But Halo/MHT may have some Brown and gray, but it's mostly colorful. Most gamers now-a-days see HD as the FPS area which the brown and gray usually take over. Crysis is one of the few that isn't brown and gray..(mostly that is)
 

AceAngel

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Ahlycks said:
AceAngel said:
Oh, wow, you guys must really love E-Phalluses to be debating this point...WHEN THE TOPIC IS ABOUT MII'S! Not who has more Brown or is Capable of rendering what.

You sad people...
lol more brown

I would say they are an equal amount of brown
Lots of brown I would say...although Rule63 of Mii would cause a quantum collapse...
 

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Am I the only one who wants to see Miital Kombat? with some of the miis I have made I could have a fight to the death between zoidburg and freddy kruger, satan and jesus, and alien hominid and Mr. T.