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PurpleRain

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The human race set itself goals.

Things to do before 2000:
-Build flying cars
-Make robot slaves
-Hoverboards
-Walk the dog
-Base on Mars

We failed everyone of those goals. The human race sucks or is too lazy. Most likely the latter.
 

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PurpleRain post=18.73351.793446 said:
The human race set itself goals.

Things to do before 2000:
-Build flying cars
-Make robot slaves
-Hoverboards
-Walk the dog
-Base on Mars

We failed everyone of those goals. The human race sucks or is too lazy. Most likely the latter.
when was the meeting to decide this? because my vote would of definately been for things like; universal health care, cure for AIDs and ending world hunger.

not that i disagree with your point, we failed everyone of those goals too.
 

Brett Alex

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.73351.792899 said:
Armitage Shanks post=18.73351.792823 said:
Eh, but in the 80's did you expect the internet? Or iPods?
Technology surprises you like that, sometimes the obvious things are unavailable and years away from development, but really cool things you never dreamed of are plentiful.

As to governments being concerned about only money or kids being uneducated, would you really prefer we return to a feudal state? Or even 18th Century monarchies?

Sure, governments aren't perfect now, but what has changed is that individual people matter a lot more than they used to. At least in Westernized countries.

But yes, I still want my jet pack.

EDIT: as for racism and homophobia, you must be kidding. The leaps and bounds forward in social acceptance are staggering. Can you imagine a full scale pogrom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom] taking place today?
Eh, Not really. We don't even vote for the president. We vote for a panel of people...WHO THEN ELECT THE PRESIDENT. That was shocking today.
I mean individual people matter in the fact that your here, on a games forum, discussing this with me rather than working to death in a field or a factory somewhere.
 
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RAKtheUndead post=9.73351.793511 said:
In the 1980s, they would have never believed that this:
The Roleplaying Game Traveller, released around then, had computers that calculated the jump to light speed. Each took up a 6"x2"x2" rectangle (about man sized) on board the ship and boasted a huge 16K memory.
 

Labyrinth

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Anarchemitis post=18.73351.792845 said:
EvilEngineNumberNine post=18.73351.792811 said:
Greed happened. Pride happened. Fast food happened.
George Bush happened.
Uwe Boll happened.
4Chan happened.
Free Market happened.
Mass television happened.
Webspeak happened.
 

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Labyrinth post=18.73351.793529 said:
Anarchemitis post=18.73351.792845 said:
EvilEngineNumberNine post=18.73351.792811 said:
Greed happened. Pride happened. Fast food happened.
George Bush happened.
Uwe Boll happened.
4Chan happened.
Free Market happened.
Mass television happened.
Webspeak happened.
..

*hug*
 

TheBadass

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...Feh? You don't think we've come far enough technologically? In the past fifty years we've advanced more than in any other period in human history... and most of it put together. We can go to space and back. We can contact anyone, anywhere, at any time, and see them through a video screen. The miniature tvs and super stereos that we carry around in out pockets everyday without giving them a second thought seem one hell of a lot more useful than flying cars to me.
 

The Wooster

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I always worry that one day I might, thanks to the horrors of time travel, have to explain 4Chan to my great grandfather.

I wouldn't even know how to fucking start.
 

Graustein

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You were wrong and technology evolved in a different direction is what the hell happened.

EDIT: Sorry, that came across as much less pleasant than it sounded in my head. Apologies. But basically, the predictions were wrong, and technology took a different path.
 

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The thing is, jet packs, flying cars are very much possible. A moon colony could be constructed with 60's tech in fact, it'd just cost a bundle.

But seeing technology at the moment and the advances we're making on the internet makes me believe we're not heading for Blade Runner but for Ghost in the Shell. Biotech is making huge leaps at the moment, cyborg parts are not that far off, nor are sex robots by the way, they're just not all that agile.

One of the things that is putting brakes on current advances is regulation. Ethical issues not present in totalitarian regimes during the 40's to 60's are currently omnipresent, preventing the kind of extreme experimentation required to make real breakthroughs in medical advancements as well as 'human engineering'.
 

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I reckon some people here have the right idea; is the world we have really that bad? Sure, people die on a regular basis but that's how God made us/we evolved to be like. You can't help death as much as you can turn the Sun on and off with a light switch. War is a natural part of humanity, and it can't be stopped. As long as people have emotions, there will always be conflict, and unless thye modify the human brain to make us all sheep (see 'Cybermen') which in itself would deprive us of any real living at all, we'll just have to put up with the far-off battles that rage. And besides, what's wrong with a world where a package can arrive from thousands of miles away within a week? Not including, of course, the years of arduous work that translation apparently takes.
 

Scorched_Cascade

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Slight off topic-Have you read "Blind Faith" by Ben Elton? Admittedly it is set in a slightly in the future flood devastated world but it shows how the human race constantly defeats itself.

On topic- One thing about having a variety of opinions is that at least some of these opinions are bound to conflict and mankind is pre-programmed towards violence to resolve these conflicts. Humanity has come very far in the past few years with staggering advances in micro-technology, nanotechnology, quantum physics, medicine, microbiology, zoology, genetics, combustion, nuclear technology, laser technology, communications technology, plastics-I could go on but it would be quite a long list. Okay so we don?t have personal jetpacks or a mars/lunar base but the ground work technology is there. In fact I would wager that if a corporation were to put their mind to it they could maybe not easily but quickly solve any outstanding issues (how to get to mars in under a year, how to supply fuel to jetpacks). The main problem are that no corporation would do it unless they judged it cost effective which is unlikely because currently it?s still cost effective to churn out overpriced and over hyped crap. As well as this mankind is in a constant arms race with itself meaning any new technology is quick re-designed or re-engineered into warfare purposes (if it didn?t start out as arms technology to begin with).
 

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Scorched_Cascade post=18.73351.793701 said:
Slight off topic-Have you read "Blind Faith" by Ben Elton? Admittedly it is set in a slightly in the future flood devastated world but it shows how the human race constantly defeats itself.

On topic- One thing about having a variety of opinions is that at least some of these opinions are bound to conflict and mankind is pre-programmed towards violence to resolve these conflicts. Humanity has come very far in the past few years with staggering advances in micro-technology, nanotechnology, quantum physics, medicine, microbiology, zoology, genetics, combustion, nuclear technology, laser technology, communications technology, plastics-I could go on but it would be quite a long list. Okay so we don?t have personal jetpacks or a mars/lunar base but the ground work technology is there. In fact I would wager that if a corporation were to put their mind to it they could maybe not easily but quickly solve any outstanding issues (how to get to mars in under a year, how to supply fuel to jetpacks). The main problem are that no corporation would do it unless they judged it cost effective which is unlikely because currently it?s still cost effective to churn out overpriced and over hyped crap. As well as this mankind is in a constant arms race with itself meaning any new technology is quick re-designed or re-engineered into warfare purposes (if it didn?t start out as arms technology to begin with).
How, dare I ask, can one make advances in combustion? Unless you're referring to flamethrowers and lasers, then I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean.
 

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Jaythulhu post=18.73351.792804 said:
Racism and homophobia, poverty and disease still run rampant...
But 80s fashion and hair styles have now been firmly eradicated from the main stream and preserved in isolated pockets as to remind us of the mistakes we will never repeat.
 

Scorched_Cascade

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Cheesus333 post=18.73351.793705 said:
Scorched_Cascade post=18.73351.793701 said:
combustion
How, dare I ask, can one make advances in combustion? Unless you're referring to flamethrowers and lasers, then I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean.
Sorry to clarify that I meant combustion related technologies. I was mainly thinking of exhaust filters and things like that for cars.
 

Labyrinth

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I must admit that I'm feeling very smug at the moment. Watching the free market collapse like a house of cards in an earthquake zone.

It does, however, fill me with anger that so many people who are, for the large part, victims of circumstance and their own consumerist nature will be fucked over, left stricken with poverty and everything else. This has been labelled as 'the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression' and 'a crisis of capitalism', both of which spell trouble for the little people, as it were.

To continue my leftist soap-boxing, I'm going to say that the only real alternative to this is a grass-roots community democracy where services and industries such as power, health and education return to the public sector to be out of the reach of desperate and greedy multinational fuckers. Having the people directly involved in local politics and planning is also essential at this point in time. A return to primary industry is also in order. It's the only way I can see huge numbers of otherwise stable people keeping out of poverty.
 

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Labyrinth post=18.73351.793773 said:
I must admit that I'm feeling very smug at the moment. Watching the free market collapse like a house of cards in an earthquake zone.
Wow, I did not realise how leftist you are until now. Shows how much I pay attention.
 

Labyrinth

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Armitage Shanks post=18.73351.793785 said:
Labyrinth post=18.73351.793773 said:
I must admit that I'm feeling very smug at the moment. Watching the free market collapse like a house of cards in an earthquake zone.
Wow, I did not realise how leftist you are until now. Shows how much I pay attention.
I tend to climb out the window and head across the lawn should a class ever bring up the "Scale your political ideology" trick.
 

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Labyrinth post=18.73351.793804 said:
Armitage Shanks post=18.73351.793785 said:
Labyrinth post=18.73351.793773 said:
I must admit that I'm feeling very smug at the moment. Watching the free market collapse like a house of cards in an earthquake zone.
Wow, I did not realise how leftist you are until now. Shows how much I pay attention.
I tend to climb out the window and head across the lawn should a class ever bring up the "Scale your political ideology" trick.
Careful, go to far left and you end up conservative. I'm not sure if that happened to me, but somehow I've ended up favoring benevolent dictatorships.

We are so far off topic now.
 

Labyrinth

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Armitage Shanks post=18.73351.793815 said:
Careful, go to far left and you end up conservative. I'm not sure if that happened to me, but somehow I've ended up favoring benevolent dictatorships.

We are so far off topic now.
Not true. I can incorperate this into the rightward swing of politics since before the Cold War resulting in this fuck up.

And for that, check here [http://www.politicalcompass.org/].