Outside the normal habitat? That's an understatement. Wisconsin is completley landlocked so there's no way a manatee could end up there outside of the most bizarre circumstances. No way that is a manatee and even suggesting it could be one is pretty god damn ridiculous.Asita said:Certainly out of the species' normal habitat, but by appearance it seems to be the best fit. Catfish would explain the pronounced whiskers, but that runs into the problem of the mouth. A catfish's mouth is directly in front of it. What was filmed has a pronounced 'muzzle' that doesn't line up with a catfish's appearance. The apparent lack of dorsal fin presents a similar problem.tendaji said:This video was taken in Wisconsin, if that is a manatee, it is a long ways away from home.Asita said:Manatee, viewed from the front. They were my favorite part of the zoo when I was young.
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Ever hear of the Great Lakes Waterway? Connects the great lakes to the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Let's not also forget that the Great Lakes are connected to the Atlantic Ocean via the Erie Canal and the Hudson River (the outlet of which, incidentally is within the regular migratory grounds for Manatees). In fact, there are recorded instances of manatees in that waterway. Given that, a manatee in Lake Michigan would certainly be unusual, but far from impossible.Internet Kraken said:Outside the normal habitat? That's an understatement. Wisconsin is completley landlocked so there's no way a manatee could end up there outside of the most bizarre circumstances. No way that is a manatee and even suggesting it could be one is pretty god damn ridiculous.Asita said:Certainly out of the species' normal habitat, but by appearance it seems to be the best fit. Catfish would explain the pronounced whiskers, but that runs into the problem of the mouth. A catfish's mouth is directly in front of it. What was filmed has a pronounced 'muzzle' that doesn't line up with a catfish's appearance. The apparent lack of dorsal fin presents a similar problem.tendaji said:This video was taken in Wisconsin, if that is a manatee, it is a long ways away from home.Asita said:Manatee, viewed from the front. They were my favorite part of the zoo when I was young.
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Yes, of course I know that the great lake eventually connect to the ocean. That doesn't change my point that there is no way a manatee could end up there outside extremely bizarre circumstances. It's way to far. That link you provided really just proves my point since it's such an extreme fringe case that it pretty much isn't even worth considering. Maybe if it looked exactly like a manatee it would be, but the resemblance isn't nearly strong enough.Asita said:Ever hear of the Great Lakes Waterway? Connects the great lakes to the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Let's not also forget that the Great Lakes are connected to the Atlantic Ocean via the Erie Canal and the Hudson River (the outlet of which, incidentally is within the regular migratory grounds for Manatees). In fact, there are recorded instances of manatees in that waterway. Given that, a manatee in Lake Michigan would certainly be unusual, but far from impossible.Internet Kraken said:Outside the normal habitat? That's an understatement. Wisconsin is completley landlocked so there's no way a manatee could end up there outside of the most bizarre circumstances. No way that is a manatee and even suggesting it could be one is pretty god damn ridiculous.Asita said:Certainly out of the species' normal habitat, but by appearance it seems to be the best fit. Catfish would explain the pronounced whiskers, but that runs into the problem of the mouth. A catfish's mouth is directly in front of it. What was filmed has a pronounced 'muzzle' that doesn't line up with a catfish's appearance. The apparent lack of dorsal fin presents a similar problem.tendaji said:This video was taken in Wisconsin, if that is a manatee, it is a long ways away from home.Asita said:Manatee, viewed from the front. They were my favorite part of the zoo when I was young.
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Extreme fringe case? "Unusual, but not unprecidented", those were the words used. An extreme fringe case would be a manatee being transported by air and dropped into the waters, not swimming up there itself, which while a rarity does not qualify as 'extreme' by most definitions.Internet Kraken said:Yes, of course I know that the great lake eventually connect to the ocean. That doesn't change my point that there is no way a manatee could end up there outside extremely bizarre circumstances. It's way to far. That link you provided really just proves my point since it's such an extreme fringe case that it pretty much isn't even worth considering. Maybe if it looked exactly like a manatee it would be, but the resemblance isn't nearly strong enough.
Yes, a manatee ending up wherever the live feed is an extreme fringe case. If it's unusual for manatees to be found in the Hudson River, than them being in Wisconsin is utterly bizarre. The Hudson River doesn't go nearly as far inland as this area in Wisconsin is.Asita said:Extreme fringe case? "Unusual, but not unprecidented", those were the words used. An extreme fringe case would be a manatee being transported by air and dropped into the waters, not swimming up there itself, which while a rarity does not qualify as 'extreme' by most definitions.Internet Kraken said:Yes, of course I know that the great lake eventually connect to the ocean. That doesn't change my point that there is no way a manatee could end up there outside extremely bizarre circumstances. It's way to far. That link you provided really just proves my point since it's such an extreme fringe case that it pretty much isn't even worth considering. Maybe if it looked exactly like a manatee it would be, but the resemblance isn't nearly strong enough.