I am a RTS noob and a friends got me a Total War pack from Steam with medieval II Rome with the expansion packs and Empire Total War and I don't know where to start, any advice?
What Total War Should I Play First
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Just play whichever game's setting currently appeals most. they're all fantastic.
Rome's the easiest to absolutely break, Medieval is slower to get going and the religion system is a bit of a pain.
Empire is solid, but Napoleon is a better game, defineately worth picking up if you like the others.
Rome's the easiest to absolutely break, Medieval is slower to get going and the religion system is a bit of a pain.
Empire is solid, but Napoleon is a better game, defineately worth picking up if you like the others.
Rome arguably has the best AI and the best mechanics. Medieval II is a close second though, so it all really breaks down to which time period you like the most.
Lol, Shogun: Total War was my first (and so far only) Total War game and I thought it was decent. But damn, now I'm itching for a good nation-building RTS... when did Rome and Medieval 2 come out?Lullabye said:Shogun total war.
Why?
Because every other total war will seem like pure gold afterward
(honestly though, go with Rome first. Medieval 2 is for pusscakes.)
Rome came out roughly a decade or so ago. Medieval is only fairly recent.azncutthroat said:Lol, Shogun: Total War was my first (and so far only) Total War game and I thought it was decent. But damn, now I'm itching for a good nation-building RTS... when did Rome and Medieval 2 come out?Lullabye said:Shogun total war.
Why?
Because every other total war will seem like pure gold afterward
(honestly though, go with Rome first. Medieval 2 is for pusscakes.)
The bold is an understatement. If you're playing as a Christian nation, piss off the Pope and just about every other nation in the game immediately targets you for destruction. And he's got a short fuse. The only way I found to gain any territory without incurring the Pope's wrath was to claim it on crusade. Good luck defending yourself. I'm a Catholic and it actually made me curse to the Pope's face.Megalodon said:
The other way I found to amke progress was attacking with 2 armies, one full of artillery first to knock down the walls, then send a fighting army in through the breaches to take the town. By the time the Pope's cease hostility order came through the target settlment was already under my control.toriver said:
Taking control of settlements wasn't the main issue, it was keeping them. I got excommunicated faster than you can say "anathema" every time I took a place, even if I had previously been loyal enough to put my own country's Pope on the throne. That's when the Pope's loyal nations made me their target and soon had me on the ropes.Megalodon said:
That really does suck, I only ever got threatened with excommunication, except when I had the resources to immedialtely buy my way back into the Pope's good books so i could ignore the treats. Killing the Pope was also useful, not only does to bring excommunicate nation back into the fold, it really madkes you feel better.toriver said:
Step 1. Get a diplomat to Rome.toriver said:
Step 2. Give the Pope a gift of 100-200 gold per turn over a long period of time (say 20-30 turns). Throw in some map information as well.
Step 3. Watch your approval go all the way up in a few turns.
Step 4. Wait for other Christian nations to attack you. They will, eventually. Focus on conquering neutral provinces in the meantime and building up your economy.
Step 5. In a war, the Pope favours the side with more approval. Also, he favors the defender (that's why you waited to get attacked). If he tells you to stop fighting, do so and let the enemy attack you.
Step 5.1. If you have maxed approval, break the Pope's orders. You won't get excomunicated, you'll just lose a point or two on the approval scale, and your tribute will boost it right back up.
Step 6. Watch the other side get excomunicated for repeatedly attacking you (Pope's best friend).
Step 7. Conquer the excomunicated faction. Hell, you can even call a Crusade on them.
Seriously, the whole Pope mechanic is so easy to exploit that it's ridiculous! For extra fun with Musilim factions, do steps 1. & 2. and you'll never have to worry about a Crusade again - the Pope won't call one on you if he loves you.