What's happening to our music?

zelda2fanboy

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People quit paying for music they liked, so therefore there was less of market for talented musicians to make money. Sure, big name acts with lots of promotion can make it big because there are other forms of revenue, like massive shows and merchandising. Not so for the ground level people who can't break in because there's nothing to break into. Don't believe me? Type the name of any album into google and look at the recommended searches. *insert album here* blogspot, mediafire, torrent, and so on and so on.... I'm the only person I know who not only still buys music, but actually buys CDs. This isn't a moral preference or anything, I'm just a collector, especially when the market for these little pieces of plastic shrinks by the day.
 

MorphingDragon

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zelda2fanboy said:
People quit paying for music they liked, so therefore there was less of market for talented musicians to make money. Sure, big name acts with lots of promotion can make it big because there are other forms of revenue, like massive shows and merchandising. Not so for the ground level people who can't break in because there's nothing to break into. Don't believe me? Type the name of any album into google and look at the recommended searches. *insert album here* blogspot, mediafire, torrent, and so on and so on.... I'm the only person I know who not only still buys music, but actually buys CDs. This isn't a moral preference or anything, I'm just a collector, especially when the market for these little pieces of plastic shrinks by the day.
Damned lies and statistics.

Beeatport would like a word with you.
 

ramboondiea

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well OUR (who ever that is supposed to be) music is all still there...just google it.

Jamiedf saves the day again!
 

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Dante DiVongola said:
I'm a musician and aspiring music producer and I'm generally not the kind of person who would nitpick at any type of music genre. I'll listen to Faith No More one second, then Tech N9ne the next. However, I'll listen to some of today's punk and pop music and I personally can't say that it appeals to me at all.

I know music is supposed to evolve and it'll never be the same as it was in the past, but are we heading for darker days in our music? The easiest difference to see is probably in country. I know people like Taylor Swift are taking the 'Carter Family' style and running that into the ground, but I don't hear any country stars that sound anything like Conway Twitty, Johnny Cash, or Roy Clark anymore either.

To my utmost chagrin, punk kinda changed for the worst too. The punk that some people show me sound like a weird mixture of boy-band pop and some mutated form of punk. I liked it better when an Acid Punk Rock band like The Offspring dominated the scene, had an undeniably catchy rhythm, and actually kept true to the punk rock genre.

You'll get some changes in other genres as well. The metal genres has screamo and some grindcore bands, rap has Lil Wayne, and then there's some dubstep that I really just can't handle too well. There are plenty of other crappy artists that ruin those and more genres, but I don't want a brain hemorrhage trying to remember people I don't care about.

So tell me what you think, Escapists. What's happening to our music?
Well, considering pretty much every band you mentioned is mainstream, I don't know what to tell you. The Offspring is pretty much pop-punk, sort of like what Disturbed is to real metal. If you listen to the radio, obviously you are just going to hear some pop subgenre.
 

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Dante DiVongola said:
So tell me what you think, Escapists. What's happening to our music?
The product hasn't changed. The market has. For the better, overall, but with that...

It used to be that only the cream of the crop could get to the market. That's why we remember Mozart, and not the thousands of other active composers during his lifetime. He had the ear of Vienna, so he had the staying power.

Now? Anyone can get their stuff out there, thanks to the internet. The downside? ANYONE can get their stuff out there.
 

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Music in general is as good as ever. Mainstream is getting worse. It's mostly songs about getting drunk or having sex and is auto tuned to hell. It does have its uses I'll admit, such as being dance music at clubs, but it's all the same and mostly crap. There are good artist that are mainstream but you gotta go through all the crap to find them. Just my opinion though.
 

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bluepotatosack said:
These sound like what I would consider metalcore. I can't say I'd call them punk.
Ahahaha, reminds me of what I said about punk and metal purists.

I'm sorry, but these groups are definitely not classified as Deathcore. And there is very little metal influence on their sound.

It is definitely not "metalcore" or any kind of heavy metal. It is definitely hardcore punk. Just because somebody screams in their songs, does not make it metal or metal influenced of any kind.
 

bluepotatosack

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No no no, that is not hardcore punk.
LilithSlave said:
bluepotatosack said:
These sound like what I would consider metalcore. I can't say I'd call them punk.
Ahahaha, reminds me of what I said about punk and metal purists.

I'm sorry, but these groups are definitely not classified as Deathcore. And there is very little metal influence on their sound.

It is definitely not "metalcore" or any kind of heavy metal. It is definitely hardcore punk. Just because somebody screams in their songs, does not make it metal or metal influenced of any kind.
Hm, forget metalcore. Screamo. And yes, emo did evolve from hardcore but that doesn't mean that screamo and hardcore punk are interchangeable terms.
 

LilithSlave

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It is a subgenre of hardcore punk. So therefor still classified as hardcore.

Just like Heavy Metal and Punk count as Rock n' Roll music.

The only music difference between "emo" and other forms of hardcore, is the tendency for emo bands to use a greater degree of ambiance, melody, and perhaps a bit more chaos in the mix. And of course generally harsh vocals.

Kind of like how Harsh EBM or aggrotech contain a lot of screaming, but are still EBM.
 

bluepotatosack

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In my opinion, that style of screamo is far removed enough to fall outside of the umbrella of hardcore. Regardless, even if you consider it a subgenre of hardcore punk, isn't it a bit misleading to imply that they are representative of the entire hardcore scene?