Whats so bad about calfornia?

[Dags90]

Unfortunately, you also have Chris Christie as Governor.

It's unfortunate, but not surprising. Corzine really messed up his campaigning, too many negative ads. But seriously, I'm glad I'm pretty close to graduating from public university, they want to increase the price by 30% because of incoming funding cuts.

I did love the fat joke ad though, that was pretty funny.

 

[SturmDolch]

I live in Canada, and I view California as a place that has everything. You can go surf on the beach, you can go party in town, etc. You have LA, San Diego, San Francisco, Disneyland, Legoland, Universal Studios, Hollywood, kick-ass wineries, beaches, pro sports teams, great music, and more.

I think people are just jealous. California is the first place I would want to move if I moved out of Canada.

 

[Wolfenbarg]

...the water crisis wasn't solved or even really addressed while I was living there. [ ... ]

Ah, yes, the water problem. You are correct in that it hasn't really been addressed. I believe Redwood City has a moratorium on all new construction not replacing existing construction, as their water allotment is exhausted. KTEH's mini-series, "Cadillac Desert" covered California's story of water very well.

The solution, of course, is to insist the largest water users be more efficient. That would be the agricultural users in the Central Valley, and they have pushed back on any such suggestions forever. (These are the same straw hats that hire predominantly undocumented workers with one hand, and then try to deny them access to public services with the other (Prop. 187).)

Well the agricultural users have also been having political problems to deal with. Were you familiar with the delta that was essentially being called off-limits because of an endangered species of smelt? The government nearly shut down hundreds of farmers during a time of crisis, an action that could have had a drastic ripple effect not only through the rest of the state, but through the rest of the country over fish the size of your finger. I do agree that of all the things they regulate every single day, agricultural water use might need to be a consideration in the future. Though the recent rains have helped quite a bit, so who knows.

I live in Canada, and I view California as a place that has everything. You can go surf on the beach, you can go party in town, etc. You have LA, San Diego, San Francisco, Disneyland, Legoland, Universal Studios, Hollywood, kick-ass wineries, beaches, pro sports teams, great music, and more.

I think people are just jealous. California is the first place I would want to move if I moved out of Canada.

If you plan on going there, prepare to have your dreams shattered into a million tiny pieces. It sounds like you're sold on the experience of southern California, but realistically people who try to making a living there can't afford such a frivolous lifestyle, not with the insane cost of living there. If you have a high paying tech or research job somewhere else in the world, that will afford you some modest accommodations in California, above average if you're willing to put yourself in more debt for a shorter term mortgage or if you seek out a nicer apartment. Either way, the California workers put in more hours per capita than quite a few other states for good reason, and it isn't because they spend so much time partying, surfing, and going to Legoland. Those events bring more tourists than locals.

People may be jealous, but it's an unfounded jealousy if they get the idea that California is endless beaches and endless fun. It's a nice place to life, but it's a very tough place to live because of the economic conditions that are constantly assaulting people who live there. Even moving one state over while keeping the same wage would make your life drastically better, even if you would be living in the Nevada desert or a relatively obscure Oregon town.

 

[Ghengis John]

Seriously what, everyone is like "segregate california", "nuke the gay cali bastards" etc.
so whhat's the problem?

EDIT: i'm not American

California does have it's problems, but our over burdened public schools or decaying utilities are not what evoke the ire of people from other parts of the country. Asides from the anti-gaming bill most of the hate thrown at California is simply the verbal excrement of small minded idiots who've never actually been here. Conservative media gives them simple messages that they can remember like who to hate or where the scapegoats are and they repeat them ad infinitum. Since we've become associated with social progress and liberalism people who are against social progress and liberalism will usually rank us with the anti-christ and "the usurper". To that end they'll fault find with us whenever they can. Yeah we have our share of pretentious assholes, but if they came for a visit they'd probably find most of us are pretty sensible.

As an asides, I wonder if any part of that disapproval has to come with he fact there's so much ethnic mingling here. Everyone I knew growing up was a mix of something, japanese and white, black and cherokee, lotta mexicans and white mixing. I remember discussing the Arizona immigration bill and getting a "what do you guys know, look what happened to you, you're all half-breeds anyhow!" Half-breeds? So anyhow, that's the kind of thinking we're up against.

 

[ServebotFrank]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasaY64GwLw

Plus the video game law.

 

[AKmontalvo]

Ive lived there for 20 years and never been botherd by it, as far as im concerned if anyone has a problem with another state or country do two things
1. dont live there
2. dont ***** that other people choose to live there

 

[Woodsey]

Well you answered your own question right there in the OP GAY cali bastards.

Wait, what?

OT: The gaming laws, probably.

 

[loc978]

Well you answered your own question right there in the OP GAY cali bastards.

Wait, what?

Homophobics tend to hate California. They also tend to be very outspoken. The "vocal minority" as it were.

 

[WOPR]

Seriously what, everyone is like "segregate california", "nuke the gay cali bastards" etc.
so whhat's the problem?

EDIT: i'm not American

Umm...

Its Da Gohvanahta's stupid anti gaming law that has most people pissed off.

That, and the fact that they outlaw EVERYTHING they don't understand (balisongs, switchblades hedgehogs, gerbils, ferrets) and yet we can still have hamsters (fastest repopulating land animal) and guns (the causes of more deaths then the gangster knife choice back in the 80's)

 

[7amurai]

I don't think anything is so bad about California, lived here all my life and visited other states and it all seems pretty similar to me. In the big cities it's more expensive but the same jobs pay more and there are sometimes more opportunities for high paying jobs if qualified. Schools are underfunded but that doesn't mean that they suck. I can only name about five or less bad teachers who had classes I didn't learn from in my entire educational career so far. Many people talk about California as if it is made up entirely of L.A. and the Bay Area, but there are also large conservative rural parts (I live in one) and everything in between. That's actually what I love most about the state, the variety. In what other state can you visit the coast, snow-peaked mountains, and the desert? In the end though, what you are looking for in a place to live is entirely up to you.

 

[WOPR]

1: It's hot.
2: CA has most of the vapid, annoying celebrities.
3: It has a retard for a Governor.
4: Anti-Gaming Law.
5: Up until '03, it had a Hellmouth (cookie if you get the reference).

And prop 8 and prop... frick I forget the pot one that got us even MORE stereo typed

 

[PeePantz]

Like anywhere else, California is a mixed bag.
As a resident of the San Francisco peninsula, my view is that CA's biggest problems are its decaying public infrastructure and obscene real estate prices. Where else can you be expected to pay $500,000 for a 1200-square-foot condo? Or $1000/month for a studio apartment?

Come on down to Boston. Or maybe on the way, take a pit stop in New York.

 

[naab]

Because most of the videos from 1000 ways to die are filmed there. Explaining how stupid the people are.

 

[Naeo]

1. The laws are totally nuts. Examples: They can't raise the property tax whatsoever without a public referendum approving the measure; they follow the "one molecule theory," where if a substance is known to cause ill effects in any concentration (it might have to be as high as one part in every two), one molecule is enough to cause those symptoms (usually cancer). Ergo, you see a lot of stuff branded "This product is known to the state of California to cause X, Y, and Z". So basically on anything made in CA.

2. That's where most of the really annoying ultra-left wing (actually ultra-left wing, not what Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck consider ultra-left, i.e., anyone who disagrees with them) people are. And my god they are annoying as hell.

3. Stereotypes. People from California are druggies, hipsters, surfers, laid-back, don't have drive, etc etc, duuuuuuuude. In reality most people are not at all like that.

4. People think it's cool to hate on California.

5. Their video game law history has been whack. Odd, considering their otherwise libertarian image.

Addenda:

6. Prop 8, its repeal, and the challenging of the repeal in federal courts was highly polarizing. People want Arnold out of office because he refused to defend the law.

7. Prop 19 was also extremely polarizing. What with the people leaning right screaming something about pot destroying the moral foundation of society and a bunch of demonstrably inaccurate claims about weed, and what with the left-leaners shouting things about fascism and free choice and so on, the state became a place to direct most hate about the issue of marijuana. And most illegal drugs.

In what other state can you visit the coast, snow-peaked mountains, and the desert? In the end though, what you are looking for in a place to live is entirely up to you.

Texas. Well, minus the snow-capped mountains. But, we've got a few nice canyons and some great scenery. Also, yeehaw.

 

[scar_47]

A lot of crazy laws get passed and then cited by others as a precident, their massive debt, their guns laws are horrible, the gaming thing hasn't helped much, and They want to take my states water yes I'm serious a lot of south western states are petitioning to tap into the great lakes for water because they can't manage their own resources. Thats why I don't like the state I'm sure some of the people are fine but look at who they've elected and what those people have done compared th the rest of the US and it's clear theirs a different set od ideals.

 

[Undeadpool]

Because a lot of people outside the state think that it's full of gay abortionists who burn the American flag for fun? Just like how a lot of people think that anywhere in the South is nothing but a bunch of cousin-screwing, racist, gun nuts. Until you actually visit a place, you really don't know it. (California, for instance, is conservative enough that it refused to legalize marijuana in a recent election and banned gay marriage in the election before that...). Plus most people don't understand that the most populous states pay a higher tax bracket to finance infrastructure for less populous ones. And anyone who says it's "too hot," you guys need to keep moving north. Once you cross that middle line, it gets a lot more temperate.
The state's got it's flaws, of course, it's difficult to get anything done because our state government gets mired in crap far too often and, yes, we elected an action hero as our governor, but ya know what? Compare him to a lot of other governors and he's actually not THAT bad. Really the only thing you can say is that he's an action hero...and that's it. I think he's massively incompetent, but not vastly moreso than any other politician. The political correctness can grate quite a bit as can the attitude of superiority, but ultimately anywhere you go thinks they know what's best for the rest of the country. As for the videogame bill: it got defeated. Get over it.

 

[sb666]

1: It's hot.
2: CA has most of the vapid, annoying celebrities.
3: It has a retard for a Governor.
4: Anti-Gaming Law.
5: Up until '03, it had a Hellmouth (cookie if you get the reference).

buffy

 

[Kinokohatake]

The few people I have met from California were ass hats. When every other sentence started with
"Well in California..." you want to punch their genitals.

 

[Shraggler]

Never been there, but I think it's probably too hot for me. Still, I would like to stop by sometime.

The main problem with California is that when people think of it, they usually think of LA. That's not necessarily indefensible, as LA county holds about half of the state's population, but that's not all of California. LA is like a state all in its own and it's vastly different from the rest of California. (Note: This is true for a majority of states with a large population in one area, especially states with huge land area)

The few people I have met from California were ass hats. When every other sentence started with
"Well in California..." you want to punch their genitals.

Yes.
About a third of the people I know that come from from Cali seem to have a collective attitude that leans toward "smugness" which is extremely off-putting. They have this overflowing amount of self confidence that's held up by twigs. Case in point: anytime they start going over-the-top, it's time for them to get behind the wheel when it's raining. Confidence quickly evaporates and they settle down.

 

[ewhac]

Where else can you be expected to pay $500,000 for a 1200-square-foot condo? Or $1000/month for a studio apartment?

Come on down to Boston. Or maybe on the way, take a pit stop in New York.

Yes, the crazy real estate prices are in large measure driven by a lot of people all wanting to live in the same place, so supply-and-demand effects take over.

However, kindly note that Boston and New York both have mostly functional mass transit systems. SF Bay, not so much. There are at least seven transit authorities that I can think of off the top of my head, and where they integrate at all, they do so very poorly.