Yeah, but those are my only favorite movies of Bay.Cody211282 said:
OT: I watch movies for their story and what they deliver. If they don't have a good story, it's not entertainment for me.
What's so wrong with Michael Bay?
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OT: I watch movies for their story and what they deliver. If they don't have a good story, it's not entertainment for me.
The first main reason is that the stories Michel Bay tries to tell are horrible and filled with more plot holes then explosions (how the heck did Sam's parents appear in EGPYT again?). Second, his movies try to be serious at times (espiacally the Transformers films) but that keeps constantly being up rooted by both unfunny and extremely annoying humor and comic relief characters (robo-balls anyone?). Third, for a guy who tries to make his name on big budget action films, he can't do action for crap. The final climatic battle between Optiums and Megatron in the first Transformers film? Do we get to see any of it? No, we get a scene where Bumble Bee is dragged around with a tow truck (with rock music that barely fits the scene), a military guy having a suicidial tactic where he drives a motorcycle UNDER the 2 story killer robot and shooting several gernades into his chest, and Sam running TOWARDS the battle with the all important magic cube that he is suppose to keep AWAY from Megatron. When the action from ALONE IN THE DARK (yes, including that scene shot IN COMPLETE DARKNESS) is easier to see then a 150 million dollar film's climatic battle, bad mouthing the director isn't something I would argue with.
Hm...I quite forgot he did those. Maybe he just needs to leave the cult classic genre alone. I don't know that I could take another massive exasperated headshake like Transformers 2. The whiplash had me in a neckbrace for weeks. Less "black" robots (not being racist, but the movie interpretation sure was) and less, yes I'm saying it, Megan Fox and more plot please. Action sequences are awesome (even Michael Bay's) but they need not span the entire length of the movie.Cody211282 said:
Because, it generally tends to be explosions, product placement, and the military... and not much more...
I can understand why these things all feature in his films [product placement for the extra cash, explosions and military for action], but it gets all a bit excessive with Bay...
I can understand why these things all feature in his films [product placement for the extra cash, explosions and military for action], but it gets all a bit excessive with Bay...
I agree. Further more I don't see any of the people who bash his work going out and contributing positively to the movie industry, in fact they are usually the same people who pirate movies (or at least that is the case in my experience) and never pay for movies, ever.Metallgoth said:
If you want to say someone is making a bad movie thats fine, but if you are not paying for that movie then shut the hell up because you opinion is irrelevant due to the fact that you are not a part of the industry or process.
/end rant
How about that asshole makes a Transformers movie focused on the FUCKING TRANSFORMERS FOR ONCE?!
Also, his movies are shit. Shaky cameras during action scenes, lots of closeups and a lot of random 'splosions scenes make them unwatchable. Take the action scenes away from action movies and you're left with a moronic plot and terrible to bad dialogue.
Also, his movies are shit. Shaky cameras during action scenes, lots of closeups and a lot of random 'splosions scenes make them unwatchable. Take the action scenes away from action movies and you're left with a moronic plot and terrible to bad dialogue.
Sure, but also because the story was a whole more interesting than say Transformers. Also the acting was by far better.igissx said:
He's being paid to fill film with explosions and stupidity.
Even Uwe Boll makes an effort with his films.
Even Uwe Boll makes an effort with his films.
I agree!Julianking93 said:
I have always hated Micky Bay because he is just a bad director :/ he failed giant robots. WHO CAN FAIL GIANT ROBOTS? I would have given them hats and umbrellas and made them do Marry Poppins.
I don't like Michael Bay for the same reason I don't like eating a can of frosting. Their needs to be some substance to a movie even if it is just a action movie, or just based on toys. And this is a pretty good explanation in the start of the video http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge .
And yes you're entitled to you're opinion, but know that slapping the title of action movie on you're movie doesn't give you the right to dump logic, reason, and emotion at the door.
And yes you're entitled to you're opinion, but know that slapping the title of action movie on you're movie doesn't give you the right to dump logic, reason, and emotion at the door.
They don't leave anything to think about or reflect on more than the "Remember when that explosion was like 'BLAGHA!' and they guy was like 'Woah!'". And that quote can be applied to every singe scene.
I'm sorry if this sounds ignorant or offensive in any way, but weren't these things supposed to be the selling point of the transformers 2 movie?Loop Stricken said:
...I didn't actually see this movie but one of my brothers did.
AndyFromMonday said:
These. I wanted to see a Transformers movie about Optimus Prime and the autobots not Shia Laboeuf. I never saw the second one because I didn't want to watch a movie about Shia Laboeuf.rekabdarb said:
Well, there's your problem.Metallgoth said:
The man's a hack. A blind child with down's syndrome could direct better movies... Especially if it didn't do anything at all. He did some interesting movies at some point (Armageddon and The Rock), but then decided he could direct and blew it all.
I have no idea why anyone can like that cinematographic abortion that was the Transformers movie (or, hey, while we're at it, the sequel). Admittedly the source material wasn't going to win any best writing Oscar, but there was still plenty of material to do a half-decent action summer blockbuster... What he did sooner classifies as sexual molestation of an entire generation's childhood. In case you're wondering why:
- The source material IS ABOUT THE FUCKING ROBOTS. They're the main characters. In Michael Bay's Transformers it's about teen drama lead by the most dim witted, shallow and unlikeable fucks I've seen, tied only with Twilight's characters. In Bay's movies the robots are little more than extras, tossed around because he needed something to create explosions. And the persons supposed to be the new protagonists are impossible to empathize with. They're annoying, and extremely stupid. I was watching the movie and I couldn't manage to root for them... More like rooting for a building to fall on them to end the movie already.
- The story doesn't make a lick of sense... It's not bad enough that it's completely detached from the original product, the story is just... bad. Nothing makes a lick of sense unless you accept the unwritten premise that everyone in that universe is actually mentally retarded.
- The man changes view. Every.Fucking.Second. I actually counted with my cousins when it was on TV. At several points he changes camera more than once a second. What's the point? You can't follow anything when it changes camera twice in the time it takes you to blink...
- ZOOOOOOOOOOOM IIIIIIIN! Bay must have some creepy dermatological fetish because whenever he does a close up he means business... You could probably count the follicles on Megan Fox's face several times through the movies. It's also extremely relevant to zoom on a robot's metal piece when it's moving very fast and there's all this junk going around that you can't see shit...
- Speaking of not seeing shit, what the fuck is wrong with the camera? You don't see cameras that shaky in live war coverages... When under fire... Whenever there's any little bit of action the camera switches from it's standard "ultra zoom in" mode to "Michael J. Fox, during a particularly bad Parkinson's episode, with a rusty old camera, on top of a pogo stick, during an earth quake" mode.
- What little of that garbled mess you can make out, is always soo depressingly cheesy you'll wish you hadn't...
In short, the story is non-existent, the acting is lousy, the characters are impossible to like, the action is horribly choreographed and you can't see shit of the actual action scenes because the camera work is so horrible it makes amateur porn look like a Steven Spielberg... What else is there to a movie?
Huh. I didn't know that. I had to do an essay on it in english and I also liked that movie even though it had it's flaws. Even though I liked this movie I can't bring myself to like Michael Bay. It's just something about all his other movies that just seem to piss me off.Ziltoid said:
*EXPLODES