Whats the best WW2 FPS ever made?

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Hello,

So my friends, once upon a time we were invaded by WW2 FPS until modern war FPS dominate and failed during last generation. WW2 FPS i didnot found of much but compare modern war games it make WW2 games looks really really good. but anyways lets talk about best one. which one do you think is best WW2 FPS ever made?

Well I go with Return to castle wolfenstien




By far Best game set in WW2 setting. simply for the fact that its not typical WW2 shooter involving "on your feet soldier". It was science fiction game set in alternate WW2. and was old school fast paced shooter involving enemy types (not just soldiers) including, nazi, zombies, other creatures, boss fights.basically Doom meet WW2 No other WW2 shooter did that.. they all try to be realistic and failed at bieng. sadly new order cant even become a shadow of this masterpiece

I also quite liked MOH allied assault. it was decent not great but only good game in irrelevant franchise. COD1 and 2 were also ok. which were same games because made by same developer. i prefer moh allied assault because it doesnot have iron sights and I hate iron sights which original COD invent and start ruining FPS genre.

so what WW2 Shooter is/was you think best??
 

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MOHAA and the first 2 cod games have been amongst my favourites. Hidden and Dangerous is also great and more realistic than similar shooter. Brothers in Arms is another overall good series.

I tend to prefer bot shooters over linear campaigns these days, so I play a lot of the Forgotten Hope 2 mod solo. It's a BF2 mod so plays like a BF game but with bots its pretty much a sandbox shooter with plenty of maps to play, and with 110 bots its pretty epic in scale. Other than that Dino D day I'd mindless fun.
 

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Call of Duty: World at War is pretty solid for me. Did a great job of portraying the Pacific war.

I also really enjoy the first two Brothers in Arms games because it's nice to have allies that don't suck--seriously, if they die, it's because you screwed up, not because they're stupid--and the atmosphere in those games. Even though they're small scale engagements, it really feels like you're part of a bigger war. The feeling of isolation, and yet at the same time knowing that there's fighting all around as you keep running across more squadmates, is something I really admire.
Market Garden kind of lost that feeling a little, but it's still fun to play.
 

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Okay, I'll play.

I'll give an honourable shotout to the original CoD and Roads to Victory. Only two CoD games I played, WWII or otherwise, and both were solid outings.

Next up is a game that deserves a hearty pat on the back, is Battlefield 1942, expansions included. It's not the best Battlefield game I've ever played (that would be Battlefield 2), but damn if this isn't a close second. I shouldn't need to explain what makes Battlefield...well, Battlefield, but lets just say that all the series's strengths are in this game. Not perfect - some of the maps are a bit too large and empty, but damn enjoyable.

And finally, the granddaddy of the genre, Medal of Honour. I've played quite a few games in this series, namely the original, Allied Assault and its expansions, Frontline, and Pacific Assault. I don't have much to say about the original, but I will go on to say that while I liked Allied Assault, I don't think it's the best of the bunch.

Make no mistake, Allied Assault is probably the most influential game in the series, and the one most people think of when the word "Medal of Honour" comes up (well, bar the actual medal I guess), but I think others surpass it. It's a good game, but to me, its strengths are outside the D-Day level. More in the European countryside, as you make your way through ruined towns. As you clear out trenches, as you fight in the rain in Sniper's Alley (damn that level, I even wrote a poem about it (1)). Then that's followed by the Ardennes and the magical German snipers that make the whole damn level a game of trial and error and gah! But yes, I enjoyed the game.

I'll give some brief mention to its expansions. First, Spearhead. This game is a weird one, and a lot of it is down to tonal dissonance. Barnes will provide sombre monologues in-between missions. Within missions themselves, you will, among other things, man a gun turret in an action scene as you blast through the snowy fields of Belgium, and interact with Russians in Berlin as you singlehandedly retrieve a tank. Because, as we all know, you can't show non-Yanks taking Berlin, you've gotta have an American to do it. Bear in mind, I have nothing against playing as US soldiers in a WWII game, but this, among other things, just struck me as weird, as if the idea of playing a non-US soldier, even on the Eastern Front, just couldn't work. Maybe it's in the title itself, but, well, yeah. But despite this, I like Spearhead more than Allied Assault, in that the gameplay is less frustrating.

And then there's Breakthrough. Ugh. The game starts in North Africa, and peters out in Italy. Coupled withoutright insane difficulty and...yeah. It's nice to fight in Italy, make no mistake, but as far as WWII games that show the Italian front, I feel "The Road to Rome" did it better.

So, moving onto the second best MoH game, Pacific Assault. Why do I think this is better than Allied Assault? Well, a number of reasons. First, its story. Bear in mind, none of the MoH games I've played really excel in story, but Pacific Assault by far has the most coherent one. You play as one soldier among a squad that, while not fleshed out, are at least there beside you for the whole game. Secondly, the gameplay. It's hard. Very hard. But unlike Allied Assault, it's fair. A lot of time is spent flanking the enemy - ammo is scare, and often you have to use the Japanese rifles, which, unlike the M1, don't have an automatic bolt action. This may seem like a small difference, but it really emphasizes how tactical you have to be when you have to make every shot count. And when you're not flanking your enemy, you're on Tarawa. An absolute hellhole. I'm not saying that fictionalized WWII media could ever do the conflict full justice, but damn if this wasn't effective.

But what really elevates Pacific Assault in my eyes is, strangely enough, its patrotism. Now, bear in mind, I'm not American (I'm Australian), so this isn't a game that speaks to any sense of personal national identity I possess. However, Pacific Assault is a game that impresses me because while it's a patriotic game, it never slides into jingoism. It remains focused on US soldiers within the war. It speaks, unironically, of the Marine Corps "defending freedom." And yet, the Japanese are never demonized. In fact, if anything, they're humanized. There's a death animation where, if you die near Japanese soldiers, a scene will play where they'll come up to your character and execute you. Sometimes, an officer will draw out a revolver, point it down, look away, the screen will go black, and a gunshot will be heard. That, to me, speaks volumes. The Japanese are the enemy. But they're still human. And most human beings find it very uncomfortable to take another person's life. Even when that person is the enemy in a savage war. So yes, in addition to its gameplay, Pacific Assault is a game that, ahem, "honours" US soldiers, while showing respect for the Japanese as well.

And now, finally, the best MoH game I've played, and #9 in my top 10 FPS games, Medal of Honour: Frontline. A game that I hear you say "What? Frontline? You mean that game meant for the console peasants as PC gamers played Allied Assault? How could you like THIS game so much?" To which I say, "because it manages to do everything right." Or more specifically, Frontline is a jack of all trades that makes it damn enjoyable. Mass infantry combat? D-Day, in a version I think is better than Allied Assault. A sense of adventure as you take out the Nazi scum in their subs and fancy mansions? Yep, you do that. A fairly coherent story with a core antagonist? Got that. A sense of melencholia as you cross the fields of Holland and fight alongside the 101st Airborne in Normandy? Got that. A depiction of the savagery of urban combat as you fight alongside British forces in Arnhem, that also has the soundtrack Arnhem Knights? (2) Yep, got that too.

Frontline is my personal favorite of the series. It's a bit of an odd choice, but I feel Frontline manages to do a bit of everything in regards to tone, gameplay, and story, yet somehow makes it all coherent. And it helps that the game is fun too. In all honesty, I do wonder if Pacific Assault might be the better game, but Frontline I have more memories of. And it, to me, is my personal favorite WWII FPS.


(1) https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8510831/1/

(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLiRgNFvfGw
 

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Gundam GP01 said:
Wolfenstien: The New Order
Does that qualify as a WWII game? It's been some time since I played, but besides Nazis the game doesn't seem to have much WWII stuff.

OT: I would say any of the Call of Duty 2s.
 

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Ezekiel said:
Comparing Wolfenstein to other WWII games is weird. It's like calling that Lincoln vampire hunter novel historical. It's sci-fi, fantasy, speculative fiction... WWII games are none of that.
it is indeed WW2 theme game. just very different. its a one man against horde of soldiers, mutants, zombies, creatures etc. unlike other WW2 games where you are one of 10000 soldier following order.
Gundam GP01 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Gundam GP01 said:
Wolfenstien: The New Order
Does that qualify as a WWII game? It's been some time since I played, but besides Nazis the game doesn't seem to have much WWII stuff.

OT: I would say any of the Call of Duty 2s.
Barely, I'd say.

Really I'm just putting it there because B-Cell hates it.
I respect your opinion, doesnot matter my friend.
 

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My most played WW2 shooter was Medal of Honor: Rising Sun. I just feel it had a really great campaign. And perhaps going against the Japanese and their different tactics was refreshing. Loved the intensity of the Pearl Harbor level too.

Call of Duty finest honor had a great Russian campaign that I played a lot too. The sniper level at the tractor factory, the assault on that hill in Stalingrad, and the tank level at the end were highly rememorable. The rest of the game, particularly the American campaign was not as great. MOH Frontline was a pretty darn good game. Even if it was annoying playing without aim assist crosshairs. Perhaps that was an option and I never knew. Frontline probably had the broadest sense of adventure of the WW2 games I've played.
 

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My Top 5:

1. Medal of Honor: Allied Assault: It took a simple set of mechanics, came up with a variety of WWII settings (North Africa, Norway, various places in France), and saw how far it could push all of that, and it did almost all of it fantastically. The end result is one of the best shooters ever made.

2. Call of Duty: While it did take away from the variety of Allied Assault, this really felt like the spiritual successor to that game, and it handled things just as well as that game did.

3. Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault: This one is odd. It wasn't really traditionally fun, and was a lot slower and methodical than most of the WWII shooters I was into. But it did a great job at building its characters and telling their story, which is what really set it apart from a lot of other WWII shooters. It's also one of the few games that really felt like it was trying to go beyond using WWII as a setting and letting it be both a learning piece and tribute to those who fought in the war. And unlike the recent MoH games, it actually pulled it off.

4. Battlefield 1942: Simply one of the best online shooters ever.

5. Call of Duty: World at War: While this is just a CoD4 expansion (essentially), it is a fantastic one.
 

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Enemy Territory is number 1. A multiplayer departure from the Return to Castle Wolfenstein game, and was free. There are actually still servers up, but last time I tried to play it was pretty laggy.

Second place has to be Call of Duty 2, that game was well done.

Then probably World at War, because it is in a setting that you don't see much.

Never played Red Orchestra, but heard good things.
 

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My personal favorites:

1. Battlefield 1942 - Despite some flaws, it was IMO the absolute best MP game of its time. It was one of the first PC games I really got into and holds a top spot in my all time favorite games. Mods like Forgotten Hope made the experience even better.

2. Call of Duty 2 - The first CoD was pretty good but overall the British campaign was very weak and the Russian campaign was largely based around Hollywood cliches. CoD2 didn't make the same mistakes, it was far more accurate and refined than the first game in nearly every way. A very immersive experience at the time.

3. Red Orchestra - one of the most gripping, historically accurate depictions of WW2 in a video game. PTSD simulator often get thrown around when describing the Red Orchestra series, I tend to agree.

4. Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm - Compared to the original, RO2 is a little more forgiving and generally has greater mass appeal (I still hate the unlock system though). It is by far the best WW2 game that has been released recently. I don't like to use the word epic very often, but RO2/RS is fucking epic.

5. Death to Spies: Moment of Truth - it is basically a Hitman game where you play as a Soviet operative/spy. Missions are reminiscent of the Medal of Honor series, though perhaps somewhat more plausible and with a much greater focus on stealth. Later missions move from WW2 into the Cold War where you conduct an assassination mission at Bletchley Park and steal secrets from the Manhattan Project. It is a solid stealth game that is interesting because it comes from a Soviet perspective. You will love this game if you ever saw Seventeen Moments of Spring.

6. Hidden and Dangerous 2 - part strategy, part FPS. You command/play as a British SAS team. The game clearly took some inspiration from the older Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon games. Very satisfying to equip each soldier with the right equipment for the job and set up perfectly timed ambushes and raids.
 

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I've got two.

Brothers in Arms Road to Hill 30 (and "Earned in Blood" as well to a slightly lesser extent)

A WWII shooter that actually uses squad tactics and forces you to think?!? What madness is this?!?! But that's what it was; you basically are the commander of a squad (usually it's other people but every so often you get a tank or bigger weapons). You use your squad to lay down covering fire on enemies and then flank them. Meanwhile, the AI was good enough that it tried to do the exact same thing to you, something that the later games failed to do all that well..

And because let's have a bit of fun with a B-Cell thread...

Wolfenstein: The New Order
A stellar reboot of an aging series. It's got a surprisingly good story (and absolutely EXCELLENT main bad guys), solid game play that allows you to choose how you want to go about playing, characters that you actually came to care about, and great mix of locations and enemy variety. One of the best FPS to have been released in quite a while. My only regret is that I got it on the Xbox 360 rather than playing it on my Xbox One.
 

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Call of Duty, I will just never forget the Stalingrad battle.
Followed by Medal of Honor Frontline, the soundtrack that was planted in my brain still remains
Last but not least World at War, there is something magical in setting the soviet flag over the reichtag, also the soviet anthem is just amazing.
 

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Disclaimer that I've never played a Wolfenstein game. That said, I'm kind of in the boat of saying that Wolfenstein shouldn't be considered a WWII game. True, the original two Wolfenstein games (pre-Id) could fit into that genre without problem. However, Wolfenstein seems to be more a case of "a game that happens to be set during WWII" rather than a game that actually uses WWII in any meaningful way. The majority of games on this list strive to emulate WWII in some form or another. Wolfenstein is a game where you fight mecha Hitler and Nazi wizards. To use another example, the Worldwar books by Harry Turtledove deal with an alien invasion of Earth in 1942 as WWII rages. I don't think that work counts as a WWII story, because while it uses the setting of WWII as a launch pad (e.g. the Nazis still rule Germany by the end of the series), the main focus is on inter-species war and later, diplomacy.

It's admittedly a thin line. For instance, I'd probably consider alternate history based on point of divergence a WWII story if the PoD is based in or around WWII itself. Still, Worldwar's PoD is aliens, which isn't a realistic PoD from real-world history, and Wolfenstein is less PoD and more "look, mecha Hitler and wizards!" Take out the WWII references, and Wolfenstein would likely remain the same game. At the end, WWII stories, even alternate history, are more in the vein of historical fiction. Wolfenstein harkens more to sci-fi pulp. There's a different core appeal. Or, to use another example, Captain America: The First Avenger. Is that called a WWII movie, even if it's set in the time period? No. And I shouldn't have to explain why.

Moving on a bit, I don't think TNO qualifies as a WWII game in any shape or form. TNO is far closer to alternate history though, in that regardless of what the previous games did, it has a clear PoD - what if the Nazis won WWII? What if they lasted into the sixties, and launched their own space program, and applied their eugenic policy on a global scale? Nazis winning WWII is a concept that's been done in alternate history fiction plenty of times before, and even with the outlandish stuff the Nazis have in TNO, I think it's more akin to alternate history than sci-fi pulp, even if sci-fi pulp remains.
B-Cell said:
it is indeed WW2 theme game. just very different. its a one man against horde of soldiers, mutants, zombies, creatures etc. unlike other WW2 games where you are one of 10000 soldier following order.
You're not really helping your case. One man against a horde of soldiers, mutants, and zombies is something that I can say with certainty did NOT happen in WWII, so instantly the core appeal of WWII fiction isn't present. As I mentioned above, Wolfenstein is harkening more to pulp sci-fi than historical context, so it being set in WWII doesn't make it a piece of WWII fiction in of itself.

Also, plenty of WWII games have you as one man for a sizable chunk of the game, if not in its entirety. It's not all that big of a distinction.

-Jak- said:
MOH Frontline was a pretty darn good game. Even if it was annoying playing without aim assist crosshairs. Perhaps that was an option and I never knew. Frontline probably had the broadest sense of adventure of the WW2 games I've played.
Don't think I ever encountered aim assist. Maybe it was on a lower difficulty setting, but I usually just stick to "normal" difficulty. Then again, I'm not complaining. I've nothing against iron sights in general principle, and while some games it wouldn't suit (e.g. Doom), I think it's at home in WWII just fine.

But yeah, you're right, Frontline is probably the most "adventurous" WWII game I've played. There's a lot of tongue in cheek, whether it be riding in the back of Fox's truck, storming the mansion, or even in the last level, fighting Nazi cooks that throw Nazi knives at your non-Nazi body. ^_^

Yet it's also the game that shows D-Day, Arnhem, and the fields of Holland in a sombre manner. And to its credit, it works damn well.
 

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Gundam GP01 said:
Wolfenstien: The New Order
Does that qualify as a WWII game? It's been some time since I played, but besides Nazis the game doesn't seem to have much WWII stuff.

OT: I would say any of the Call of Duty 2s.
It does start in the latter days of World War 2 and exists in a world where the war continued and you figth a resistance against the occupying nazis I guess?

OT: Call of Duty 2, Medal of Honour Airborne are pretty rad. I like World at War to for co-op.
 

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You're not really helping your case. One man against a horde of soldiers, mutants, and zombies is something that I can say with certainty did NOT happen in WWII, so instantly the core appeal of WWII fiction isn't present. As I mentioned above, Wolfenstein is harkening more to pulp sci-fi than historical context, so it being set in WWII doesn't make it a piece of WWII fiction in of itself.

Also, plenty of WWII games have you as one man for a sizable chunk of the game, if not in its entirety. It's not all that big of a distinction.
Im not a fan of military based war shooter my friend, thats why i choose wolfenstein because its not realistic. its old school twitch shooter set in WW2. so yes its WW2 game set in alternate reality. a Sci fi game set in 1940.