Whats wrong with dirty work
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I don't have a dirty job. I have a highly technical job that still requires a lot of manual labor, and a little bit of dirty work. After all, 50 year old aircraft don't fix themselves.
uh-huh. now i'm inclined to wonder what kind of dirty work does an elevator operator have to do?
I'm planning on a career in engineering, a "clean" job, I'll get more money than if I was a builder, a "dirty" job, so you're saying that I'm a pompous little prick because I want a job that will be quite good for me? you think it "gay" of me to not want to work at a dump or a sewage processing plant?
my main counter-argument: FUCK YOU
my main counter-argument: FUCK YOU
I'm the laziest guy you'll ever meet, I love to procrastinate.
I would like to become a surgeon though.
I would like to become a surgeon though.
I'll think you'll find that most people are willing to get 'dirty' for money.Levziemuch said:
Great. Now look what you've done. I made a dirty sounding statement.
Honestly though, normal working people usually have no trouble with hard work. I know I haven't. The younger generations will also learn to deal with it as they get older and actually have to make some money to survive.
I make my niche in the home building business, doing all kinds of work.
It gets pretty nasty at times, but I tell you what; it feels great to get home at the end of the day and unwind. So great that the meager pay and harsh conditions are completely tolerable.
The biggest problem society has right now with work ethic is that everybody keeps being told that they're so damn special and unique, throughout their entire childhood when core values such as hard work and integrity should be put into them instead. Now we've got everybody insisting that they're a poet among peons, and that they should be worshiped simply because they think their dubious individuality makes them more valuable than most others.
It gets pretty nasty at times, but I tell you what; it feels great to get home at the end of the day and unwind. So great that the meager pay and harsh conditions are completely tolerable.
The biggest problem society has right now with work ethic is that everybody keeps being told that they're so damn special and unique, throughout their entire childhood when core values such as hard work and integrity should be put into them instead. Now we've got everybody insisting that they're a poet among peons, and that they should be worshiped simply because they think their dubious individuality makes them more valuable than most others.
I am not a unique and beautiful snowflake. I am part of the all singing, all dancing, crap of the world.SODAssault said:
This topic isn't about people that want to get to high-level jobs that require little-to-no manual labor. This topic is about unskilled people who insist that they're above manual labor. They're not shooting for high like you clearly are, they're simply saying "no, I'm not going to do that. Accommodate and coddle me because I do not wish to do that particular thing, and even though I'm not fit to do anything else, my personal whim should be your command, peasant."traceur_ said:
Counter-counter argument: NO U
So...is this a comment of an *entire* generation against another, a claim so ridiculously vague, generalised and based on media perceptions of both groups in question that it's pretty much meaningless?
Or is it hating on wilfully ignorant, lazy, self-centered people, who I'm pretty sure my generation didn't actually, y'know, invent?
One last thing: the fittest guy I've ever known was gay as a picnic. You're silly in the head-box.
Or is it hating on wilfully ignorant, lazy, self-centered people, who I'm pretty sure my generation didn't actually, y'know, invent?
One last thing: the fittest guy I've ever known was gay as a picnic. You're silly in the head-box.
To me, "dirty work" sounds like something you do for a boss who wants to kill James Bond.
On topic: If you're skilled at being a high paid, office type person then okay, go do that job. If you're skilled at being outside building stuff or working with animals, go do that instead.
On topic: If you're skilled at being a high paid, office type person then okay, go do that job. If you're skilled at being outside building stuff or working with animals, go do that instead.
no, no, i'm an expert on "pure stupid" analysis, this person is not... you, on the other hand, may beMercanary57 said:
Incidentally, isn't the opposite of that that: You are a worthless cog of the machine, suitable only for what we have trained you for. You will do the job we choose for you without complaint. Your individuality is meaningless, as is your life, should you die you will be easily replaced.SODAssault said:
Then that's just as an extreme as your statement. However, I'm sure there -are- people telling their children how they are so special and unique, but not to the extent that it's creating feckless adults who refuse to do the 'dirty' jobs. That's more of a result of parents wanting better for their children, they don't -want- them to have to work as hard as they did, to have to go what they went through. This however becomes twisted slightly when the children have grown up not having similar experiences as their parents, and simply not knowing how hard things could or should be.
The latter part of your response is more along the lines what I was originally trying to convey. But it doesn't just stop at the parents; mind you, it's permeated the school system, as well. As part of the new snotty, superior generation (I'm seventeen), I can tell you first-hand that it's becoming a genuine problem. All throughout grade school, as early as I remember, nobody emphasized effort; instead, it was all a cult (so to speak) of self-esteem boosting and child worship.GothmogII said:
There's a big difference between a healthy ego and unwarranted self-importance; parents and schools are actively contributing to the latter by telling children that they're perfect the way they are, and should never ever have to change or attempt to better themselves because they'll always be a special snowflake that the rest of the world will be forced to respect. And then they're kicked into the real world, where they ***** incessantly about their rights and how they shouldn't have to do certain jobs that they think they're too superior to do.
(Also, I'd like to add that I was born into an upper-middle class family, so this isn't a tirade against them gall-derned rich folk an them there fancy jobs.)