What's wrong with prostitution?

[tofulove]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

hes ether a really good troll, or a really religions nut that some how forgot video games are the devil.

also i got a some evidence that debunks your gay theory, there were no nuclear techolgy let alone melt downs in the roman and pre roman times were homosexuality was accepted and in many cases a honorable thing.

 

[Enkidu88]

Prostitution isn't the greatest of professions, and I don't think the world would be lessened if prostitution didn't exist, but the government needs to accept that fact that it does exist and there's really nothing they can do to stop it. Making it illegal simply drives it underground and makes it far more dangerous for all parties involved. If made legal than alot more safety measures could be taken, like standard STD testing and have bouncers or similar security staff to make sure the prostitutes remain safe. Making it legal would also allow people to declare it on tax returns, and maybe actually spend it on legitimate commodities as opposed to now where most illegal prostitution rings are mainly run by criminal organizations.

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from sets of morals thought by religions - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

It doesn't really trivialize sex anymore than when people go to a bar, get blind drunk and then have sex before parting ways and never seeing each other again. People need to stop thinking Sex is the end-all point of a relationship. Sure sex itself is great, but simple sex with a prostitute won't substitute the emotional bonds that you form with a committed partner, which enhances the entire experience in my opinion.

 

[Thaius]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

Like I said, the importance of the family unit is an incredibly important aspect of societal order: basic sociology. Deny it if you want, but it's true. Prostitution won't single-handedly "destroy life as we know it," but it sure as heck won't help. In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

The destruction of the family unit would be a huge blow to society: it's a sociological fact. And prostitution wouldn't do it alone, but it would be a pretty big step.

 

['Aredor]

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage.

How so? You think that suddenly people will think "I don't have to marry anyone, I can have sex with prostitutes for the rest of my life"? If you think sex is the only reason one would marry someone, that's very sad. "You know honey, I don't love you and I actually don't even want to be with you, but it was the only way for me to get sex on a regular basis"

EDIT:

In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

Ah, destroy marriages because the husband goes and visits a prostitute? But isn't the marriage already destroyed at that point? Would it be any better if he went to a neighbor or their son's teacher instead of a prostitute?

 

[Crazy_Bird]

Well, in some European countries (as well as my own) prostitution is legal and I think that is actually quite good. It makes everything a little more controllable and some brothels have their own medical staff and are well organized and care properly for the women.

Pimping is yet strictly forbidden. It is important to distinguish between pimping and prostitution.

 

[tofulove]

The same thing is done a lot in prostitution, the woman (or man, it does happen to men, but I'll just keep using the female pronoun rather then he/she) in question has a choice between a) having sex with a stranger or b) getting the crap kicked out of her by her pimp or c) going hungry or having her family go hungry.

debunk time, legalizing it will solve B in many to most cases, A is her/his job, C is why people have jobs, is it rape for me to hire a person to fix my fence, sure isnt, as long as she or doesn't have a B, she/he made a choice to have a job were she/he has sex with random people that way she/he has money to avoid C same reason why any one gets a job, to avoid C.

legalization also solves alot of D aka std's by regulating it you also can make johns use condoms and make the workers get reguler std checks, and dont forget E prevent unwanted sex aka rape, not being paid aka being riped off, and being kidnapped and murdered.

Think it over people.

 

[Smudge91]

I agree with prostitution when it is regulated and the customers are checked through a viable agency and the girl is free to leave the proffession when she wishes. Like the real Belle de Jour says isn't it safer to have sex with someone you know is safe, because of vetting, or having drunken one night stands where anything could happen.
However when the girls or guys are forced into it through gang and crime then i disagree with it. By having prostitution as a taboo its easier for gangs and mobs to control prostitues who some are rather naive and don't know what they are getting themselves into.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

OT: I think it should be legal. Women are doing it right now anyways, but they are drug addicts with abusive pimps and live on the streets and contract diseases and eventually die.

Legalizing it would allow the women to do it in a legitimate way. I'd think of it less as prostitution and more of a classy, disease free escort service.

I mean give me a break they have "safe injection sites" all over north america for drug addicts yet drugs are still illegal. Why not offer "safe sex sites" for prostitution?
Same damn difference.

 

[GoldenRaz]

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from "religious sets" of morals which just say it's utterly wrong because God(s) say so - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

I don't know if you would call something a "meaningful" relationship if all that you get from it is sex. If the only reason for you to seek out relationships is to have some sex, then any potential relationship rapidly looses its meaning.

The point that I want to make is that being able to have sex at any time doesn't detract from any given person's search for - for lack of a better word - 'love'. And a suitable mate that you want to have children with.

As an aside; I don't understand the difference between prostitution and porn. I mean, it's people getting paid to have sex, only in porn it gets caught on tape.
I can imagine that it's either not that simple, or that I've just found a really simple loophole through it all.

 

[Tigbun]

Honestly it seems to be a decent venture to invest in. Because given time the moral fabric of our land will break down eventually and who ever has money can make more by setting up the brothels.

 

[FungTheDestroy]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

Woah there! Read the next sentence there before you quote! They both have to do with a woman's RIGHT to have CONTROL over her own body! Make either illegal and you STRIP the woman of CONTROL over her own LIFE!!!!

Is the Controvery that abortion and the pill are not the Woman's right, but the baby's? Or is it the Gods' rights? That would make more sense! NOW the controversy can start to bubble, then stop because we all realize it's not worth arguing here on the boards.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

Woah there! Read the next sentence there before you quote! They both have to do with a woman's RIGHT to have CONTROL over her own body! Make either illegal and you STRIP the woman of CONTROL over her own LIFE!!!!

Is the Controvery that abortion and the pill are not the Woman's right, but the baby's? Or is it the Gods' rights? That would make more sense! NOW the controversy can start to bubble, then stop because we all realize it's not worth arguing here on the boards.

Oh I read the whole thing. Didn't say I disagreed with you either. Just saying the sentence
"Prostituion is like abortion" is probably gonna turn some heads lol.
So calm down! Same team!

 

[JaredXE]

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from "religious sets" of morals which just say it's utterly wrong because God(s) say so - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

Because we as a species still need people for other, non-sexual, relationships. A person who is at the stage of life where they are looking to settle down and form an intimate, life-long connection with someone isn't likely to pay a prostitute. A young and/or non-settled person will.

That said, sex is still a HUGE part in forming relationships. Is the the most important, no. But it is in the top three. This applies to both partners, of either gender. Sexual frustration while in a commited relationship is just begging for release. If your sweetie isn't going to give you any, maybe a legal outlet is required. And if your partner doesn't like that, well then they know what they need to start doing.

 

[tkioz]

The same thing is done a lot in prostitution, the woman (or man, it does happen to men, but I'll just keep using the female pronoun rather then he/she) in question has a choice between a) having sex with a stranger or b) getting the crap kicked out of her by her pimp or c) going hungry or having her family go hungry.

debunk time, legalizing it will solve B in many to most cases, A is her/his job, C is why people have jobs, is it rape for me to hire a person to fix my fence, sure isnt, as long as she or doesn't have a B, she/he made a choice to have a job were she/he has sex with random people that way she/he has money to avoid C same reason why any one gets a job, to avoid C.

legalization also solves alot of D aka std's by regulating it you also can make johns use condoms and make the workers get reguler std checks, and dont forget E prevent unwanted sex aka rape, not being paid aka being riped off, and being kidnapped and murdered.

Think it over people.

Don't quote me if you don't read my entire post, I am in favour of legalisation, my statement is on the current state of prostitution.

As for your fence analogy, that's total bullshit, yes sex is physical, but what about forcing people to give blood? how about undergoing unneeded medical tests and experiments? that's a lot closer to forced sex, it's the forced exploitation of his or her body against their will.

 

[vasudean]

I really don't take a look at prostitution, drugs, or anything touchy from a moral standpoint, (except abortion. Of course I still have practical reasons why I'm against it) I mainly look at it from a practical point of view. My reasons are that it would be hard to control to spread of STDs, the fact that some men have sadistic sexual appetites, and the fact that there's the problem with that some women are forced into it by asshole pimps or drugs or both *shoots random pimp repeatedly even when I ran out of ammo 5 minutes ago*. However, if prostitution's legalized and rigidly controlled with the women checked out every week and paid and treated fairly, then I won't complain much.

 

[Thaius]

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage.

How so? You think that suddenly people will think "I don't have to marry anyone, I can have sex with prostitutes for the rest of my life"? If you think sex is the only reason one would marry someone, that's very sad. "You know honey, I don't love you and I actually don't even want to be with you, but it was the only way for me to get sex on a regular basis"

I most definitely do not believe that sex is the only reason to marry, or even a primary reason. But there are a lot of people who do: as I said, our society is largely based around sex now. Beyond that, the divorce rate shows that people would rather just take the easy way out instead of trying to work things out in a struggling marriage, resulting in many broken families: you think legalizing prostitution would aid faithfulness? It would just make it easier for someone in a struggling marriage to find temporary pleasure in someone else's arms: I hardly call that beneficial to the family unit.

EDIT:

In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

Ah, destroy marriages because the husband goes and visits a prostitute? But isn't the marriage already destroyed at that point? Would it be any better if he went to a neighbor or their son's teacher instead of a prostitute?

But legalizing prostitution would only open more options. It would be bad no matter who a spouse sleeps with, but you really think it would help to make one of the options easier for them?

As for the marriage, someone cheating doesn't necessarily mean the marriage is destroyed. Usually it's because people aren't willing to work out their problems: marriages are rarely destroyed until someone makes a mistake because of the problems in the marriage. The problems themselves are only the beginning, but they can be worked through if the couple is willing. If not, they turn to other means of escape: such as prostitution. And the legalization of it would only make that easier. Can you honestly tell me this is a good thing?

 

[tofulove]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

Like I said, the importance of the family unit is an incredibly important aspect of societal order: basic sociology. Deny it if you want, but it's true. Prostitution won't single-handedly "destroy life as we know it," but it sure as heck won't help. In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

The destruction of the family unit would be a huge blow to society: it's a sociological fact. And prostitution wouldn't do it alone, but it would be a pretty big step.

did you know prostitution has bin threatening family values, i mean wow i never new such a thing that's bin around as long or even longer than family units would destroy it, its almost as if people in the last few thousand years manage over all to keep family even under the relentless assault of immoral sex. i mean now you think society like the Greeks Persians and Romans would of dissolved and fall over night by the century's of casual sex there society tolerated. but some how were able to last intell one took over the other intell the great moral force of monotheism came along to clean things up and throw us into dark ages.

 

[FungTheDestroy]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

Woah there! Read the next sentence there before you quote! They both have to do with a woman's RIGHT to have CONTROL over her own body! Make either illegal and you STRIP the woman of CONTROL over her own LIFE!!!!

Is the Controvery that abortion and the pill are not the Woman's right, but the baby's? Or is it the Gods' rights? That would make more sense! NOW the controversy can start to bubble, then stop because we all realize it's not worth arguing here on the boards.

Oh I read the whole thing. Didn't say I disagreed with you either. Just saying the sentence
"Prostituion is like abortion" is probably gonna turn some heads lol.
So calm down! Same team!

Alright. Just wanted to make sure no one stopped reading at the first sentence. Wasn't so angry either. Just wanted to make things clear, neh?

I just thought it was necessary to bring up that the question of social equality is more important than the question of Godly morality, in any kind of context or example, whether it's on topic prostitution, or the "off topic", but really "the same exact topic", abortion, and the pill.

 

[Rockatansky]

Depends on the sort of prostitution, the high end 'escort' girl doesn't need protection, chances are she made her own choice to sell sex, whatever, I don't care about the morals of the issue.

The problem I have, working as a police officer in an inner city area with its own red light district is with what the law calls common prostitution. Girls walking the streets soliciting. Every one of the girls that gets locked up, charged and put in to drug intervention programs is a hopeless drug addict. They're the walking dead, skin and bones, stink, look about ten years older than they are and you can see the scars and bruises from the rapes and beatings. Do they care about how degraded or vulnerable they are? They couldn't give a fuck, all they care about is getting the next crack hit (the crack heads are even more messed up then the smack heads, but they normally take both drugs).

Even the briefest conversation with these girls shows that they're not dumb either, they acknowledge how messed up their lives are they're just beyond caring. That's a level of addiction that I find hard to comprehend.

The saddest thing is to look back through their custody pictures and see pictures of them as normal teenagers having been arrested for shop lifting or drunk and disorderly and watch the decline as they slip into drug addiction.

Most of the stories I've heard start with girls drinking, then smoking weed, getting into speed and pills, then a bit of coke, then it's the big jump to crack or heroin. They get into prostitution gradually, giving a dealer a blow job for a rock, maybe fucking one of his mates because they can't afford what they need. Once the addictions full blown it's not such a big departure to start walking the streets, just working for drugs, £10 for a hand job, £20 for a blow job, both go straight to the dealer, get high then get straight back out on the streets again. Apart from the rapes and arrests that's how it goes until they either overdose or disappear.

It's just horrible, prostitution may be a crime but the girls are the victims, problem is they're beyond caring. Conversely, the male smack heads normally turn to shop lifting or burglary, I've never dealt with a male prostitute.

As for STI the girls say they only really do hand/blow jobs and rarely have full sex and they always use condoms. However, I know that there are girls out there with HIV that are still working. The punters who we lock up with these girls tend to be middle-aged, married and (in Birmingham at least) Asian. I've no idea why they pay to go with these girls as they're like the walking dead, I think they must get off on the exploitive, nastiness of it. If these scum bags didn't get off on exploiting a drug addicts misery then they wouldn't be out selling sex, however, no matter how ravaged, dirty, stinking and miserable the girl is there's always some lowlife who'll pay her for sex.

That's the problem, men getting off on exploiting fucked up vulnerable women. I don't know how that can be changed and that's depressing.

 

[FungTheDestroy]

What's wrong with prostitution: The women are severely underage, they are mistreated or even killed by the customers and pimps, and there is a very high chance of STDs spreading.


What's wrong with LEGAL prostitution: Nothing. It's practiced in a safe establishment where only legal aged women work. They are kept safe from both physical harm, and STDs. They receive medical exams and are paid a fair wage.