What's your controversial opinion?

[shadowslayer81]

I actually trust the government.
I know it may seem weird, but they aren't all idiots and some of them actually want to get shit done.

 

[Snake Plissken]

The Beatles are fucking terrible.

Star Wars sucks and is full of shitty characters.

Bacon isn't that good.

 

[Raven_Operative]

The Beatles are fucking terrible.

THIS!

 

[rednose1]

I believe that the world would be a better place if everybody in it was just bisexual.

Before anyone complains that this is just the self-serving interest of a gay man who's had more than his lion's share of crushes on straight men, that's exactly what it started as.

But the more I thought of this scenario, the more it just... made sense. Nobody, not even the most staunch anti-gay obviously-Christian slack-jawed bible-thumping Palin-supporting dumbass can deny two things:

1) Homophobic bullying is a real fucking problem
2) Gay teenage suicides are always a tragedy and should be prevented whenever possible.

Hence, everybody being bisexual would eliminate a large chunk of bullying, and drastically lower teenage suicide rates. For one simple reason:

- Nobody is going to be a homophobic prick to someone, when everybody has the same orientation. And because of this, no kids will be bullied so badly over their sexuality that they're forced to take their own life.

So, everybody being bisexual is just a very good way to avert horrible, horrible events. As well as remove one of the main reasons people fucking despise the Christian religion, so there'd be less of this "Christians are evil and must be hated grrr!" kind of attitude towards religion that's just taking up pointless amounts of time and fucking energy.

Plus those Ugandan homos wouldn't be forced out of their homes, imprisoned or killed, and I think everyone can agree that this would be a good thing. Poor guys...

Also, it'd remove that whole fucking "does he like dudes?" song and fucking dance that seems to precede every man-on-man relationship in history. Cause trust me, that dog and pony show is a fucking pain in the hole. [sub]And not in the fun way.[/sub]

See, this I just can't believe. I mean, sure, some problems would get fixed, but being gay has been far down on the list of reasons to kill /produce violence against someone.

Religion, soicaleconomic status, gender, race, THESE things have caused some serious hoopla all through history. Crusades, slavery, Holocaust, Apartheid, Spanish Inquistion. Even the Islamophobia people seem to have now, are all based on other issues.

As for my controvisal stance, I think nationalism is a huge problem, and not a virtue. When we come down to individuals, it seems ( or at least the people i've met are) normal, everyday people, with tolerance for just about everything under the sun. Get into large enough groups though, and suddenly we get this, " My country is number 1!!!" mentaility.It doesn't help politics, business, religionist views to think we are better than country X, so why does it persist?

 

[Johnny Impact]

I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.

The ideals of socialism are in direct opposition to the most fundamental principles of human nature, therefore socialism will never be practicable. Do a little research into what happens when people try to implement socialism. History of the USSR would be a great place to start.

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

Science has not, and never will, rule out the exist of a higher power.

Despite not being religious, I believe religion is one of the most beneficial parts of humanity, and it is what has caused us to progress for thousands of years.

Killing someone is never justified, with the exception of having no other alternative to saving another's life.

I agree on points 1 and 3.
How ever with 2 you are so very wrong. We progressed as a species because we were curios, because we had a desire to see how things worked.
Religion says it's magic so deal with it. Saying god done it gets us to the arse end of no-where and can even prevent our progress. Go ask Galileo.

Galileo's studies never would have occurred without support from the Pope and other officials within the church.

Religion is what funded and provided nearly all advances in society, art, and science during the Renaissance and Medieval periods.

Fuck the renaissance. Ancient Greece was on the verge of an industrial revolution and the celts had mapped the stars, almost all was lost because of the roman empire, especially when the Pope took over and thousands of "pagan" writings were burned, like all the books in the library of Alexandria. But ironically anything we know about the celts and Druids was saved thanks to Irish monks
But then of course, we should never have been in the situation in the first place.

Tl;DR the Renaissance was just us rediscovering this the Greeks discovered 1500 years before hand.

The Roman Empire would have screwed up everything, Christian or not. Pre-Christianity it was just an empire based off propaganda and nationalist extremism.

True, but at least try saved some of the stuff they collected before the church went nuts when it first came to power.

Saving a bit of the stuff they collected of the stuff doesn't really matter when you murder or enslave almost everyone associated with it.

exactly which is why the roman empire was just awful.
But things didn't get better afterwords let's be honest.

Yes, but you can't only blame religion for most of it.

Okay good point, that is true.
But it didn't help a lot of the time either, give me that much

I will.

Also, you seem nice, so here's a cookie:

Spoiler: Nom!

OMGCOOKIENOM!
-ahem-
Well thank you kind sir, I try not my best not to be an ass and stay pragmatic
You too seem nice and intelligent, may I be bold enough to add you as a friend? :L

 

[FarleShadow]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

I know Zaik, for the most part, was being ironic and realistic, but really? Biology disagrees with some of your points. Sexual assault is abit hard without a penetrating object. Women are more likely to recieve less wages, because most civilised countries make business continue to pay some of their wages if they become pregnant (Essentially, pay while you raise!).

The argument that 'women are less than men' is largely defunct in today's society, but women and menhaters continue to refer to backward arguments as justification.

or, simply put, we're mostly the same, so stop complaining when you have to eat shit, we all have to eat shit, do your part and shut the fuck up like the rest of us.

 

[coolkirb]

so this topic is just a guise for a lets hate religion topic eh?

 

[William MacKay]

Spoiler'd to avoid unintentionally offending anyone. Topic is paedophilia.

Spoiler

I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.

my friend has a relative who works in prison. apparently, peados have to be put in defferent areas of prisons so that the others dont kill them. its logical though: imagine if a murder has a daughter, then finds out the guy who sleeps in the same room or even block as him raped a kid. i understand that they cant exactly help it, just like gay people cant help being gay but still...
with me its religion. the only religion that i have ever insulted is Christianity. it seems to be the only one shoving itself down my throat. every christmas we get off school, but a minister comes in. we dont get a rabbi in at Yom Kippur though, or an imam during Ramadan.

 

[Dango]

Science has not, and never will, rule out the exist of a higher power.

Despite not being religious, I believe religion is one of the most beneficial parts of humanity, and it is what has caused us to progress for thousands of years.

Killing someone is never justified, with the exception of having no other alternative to saving another's life.

I agree on points 1 and 3.
How ever with 2 you are so very wrong. We progressed as a species because we were curios, because we had a desire to see how things worked.
Religion says it's magic so deal with it. Saying god done it gets us to the arse end of no-where and can even prevent our progress. Go ask Galileo.

Galileo's studies never would have occurred without support from the Pope and other officials within the church.

Religion is what funded and provided nearly all advances in society, art, and science during the Renaissance and Medieval periods.

Fuck the renaissance. Ancient Greece was on the verge of an industrial revolution and the celts had mapped the stars, almost all was lost because of the roman empire, especially when the Pope took over and thousands of "pagan" writings were burned, like all the books in the library of Alexandria. But ironically anything we know about the celts and Druids was saved thanks to Irish monks
But then of course, we should never have been in the situation in the first place.

Tl;DR the Renaissance was just us rediscovering this the Greeks discovered 1500 years before hand.

The Roman Empire would have screwed up everything, Christian or not. Pre-Christianity it was just an empire based off propaganda and nationalist extremism.

True, but at least try saved some of the stuff they collected before the church went nuts when it first came to power.

Saving a bit of the stuff they collected of the stuff doesn't really matter when you murder or enslave almost everyone associated with it.

exactly which is why the roman empire was just awful.
But things didn't get better afterwords let's be honest.

Yes, but you can't only blame religion for most of it.

Okay good point, that is true.
But it didn't help a lot of the time either, give me that much

I will.

Also, you seem nice, so here's a cookie:

Spoiler: Nom!

OMGCOOKIENOM!
-ahem-
Well thank you kind sir, I try not my best not to be an ass and stay pragmatic
You too seem nice and intelligent, may I be bold enough to add you as a friend? :L

Sure, I'll add you now.

 

[Raven_Operative]

so this topic is just a guise for a lets hate religion topic eh?

YUP!

Enjoy the bonfire!

 

[Vault101]

ME2 was better than ME1....BAM!!

I'm sorry, that isn't controversial, unless you enjoyed spending several hours digging out the six or seven quotes that existed outside the storyline.

err...I mean, OH SNAP, HONKEYS BE TRIPPIN'!

umm.....yes....yes I did

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.

The ideals of socialism are in direct opposition to the most fundamental principles of human nature, therefore socialism will never be practicable. Do a little research into what happens when people try to implement socialism. History of the USSR would be a great place to start.

I disagree, it's all relative to how people are raised. That and the USSR was implemented poorly.
You can't make the jump from monarchy to capitalist to communism in the space of three years ish.
You have to ease into, make it gradual so people don't freak out.

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

I know Zaik, for the most part, was being ironic and realistic, but really? Biology disagrees with some of your points. Sexual assault is abit hard without a penetrating object. Women are more likely to recieve less wages, because most civilised countries make business continue to pay some of their wages if they become pregnant (Essentially, pay while you raise!).

The argument that 'women are less than men' is largely defunct in today's society, but women and menhaters continue to refer to backward arguments as justification.

or, simply put, we're mostly the same, so stop complaining when you have to eat shit, we all have to eat shit, do your part and shut the fuck up like the rest of us.

Agreed, we all have to eat shit so let's just get on with it and stop fighting over insignificant things.
But to deny women have been and still to this day to a degree have been treated poorly by men is just close-minded/retarded.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

Almost absolutely everything in most of today's societies is stupid.
The grading system (talking about education, obviously) most countries use is discouraging as hell, people are allowed to use "free speech" as an excuse for making fun of difference to themselves, governments can't seem to find a solution other than death, people prefer a 2000-year-old book as evidence instead of observation and proof, and humanity in general is ignorant. Still waiting for an apocalypse

 

[S3Cs4uN 8]

Stalin was a genius

wow finally some one agrees with me just look what happened to the USSR after he died.

Spoiler: FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!!

[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/sovietsmiley.jpg/]

i shall one up your communist smiley...

...with a soviet space marine!

 

[coolkirb]

so this topic is just a guise for a lets hate religion topic eh?

YUP!

Enjoy the bonfire!

Well then my controversial opinion is that people who think the world would be better off without religion are just looking for a scape goat. Religion like everything has its negative and positive points, and changing the world so that everyone is an atheist wont solve all the problems.

 

[Marik2]

I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.

Yeah I too have that mentality of sex.

And Im also a virgin.

I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.

You mean like a woman gets raped and then she has a baby and loves her?

That kinda love?

 

[Zaik]

I think men are mentally, physically, and any other comparison you can think up, superior to women.

At least, I think "westernized" men are superior to "westernized' women. I can't speak on cultures outside of that. I'm not so silly as to say something crazy like the worst man is better at everything than the best woman, but given similar status in comparison to others of their gender, the male will win out every single time. I even think that women statistically living longer is brought out by an artificially shortened lifespan for men due to what they're forced to do and put up with as they live, not some sort of actual genetic advantage women have.

Basically, your "westernized" woman is a self destructive mess of daddy issues, personality disorders, and insecurities that is overall babied and coddled for her entire life. She uses sex as a means to live because she has nothing else to support her. Men who behave as "normal" women do are labeled mentally incompetent, perverts, rapists, and/or racists.

The one weakness that men have(and the only salvation for women) is the excessive sex drive that actively affects their judgement to the point they're willing to be subjugated by that which they should be ruling. I guaran-damn-tee that if men worldwide suddenly lost their sex drive 100% completely, and sex only served as reproduction for men, within 50 years women would be handled as cattle, and men would take on sons as desired, or perhaps in times of lowered population people would be paid to impregnate women in order to continue the species.

Well there is the sex drive and the complete inability to express any emotions for fear of catching the "gay". For every one girl that kills herself, 4 men kill themselfs. So women are a lot more emotionally stable then men. You are an extremely sexist person sir, to say that women are infirior is complaint wrong. Men are only stronger at birth, men are far less evolved and still strive for alpha male dominance and can be complete emotional wreaks ecause of their insane sex drive and over hype masculinity.

That is trash you've been fed by women. You're under this delusional idea that men are all roid raging bros with incredible fragile psyches. It's absolutely not true.

Your suicide statistics would easily work in my favor by simply mentioning that woman's need to manipulate men with sex to survive results in more hurt men. Face it, it's a crime if a man cheats or leaves his mate for another, AND it's a man's fault if a woman cheats or leaves her mate for another. Living in a world like that without being able to realize the bullshit for what it is would make me want to kill myself too.

Oh noes! D:
The lady propaganda is everywhere!
Alright here's a test to see how comfortable men and women are with sexuality.
Ask a girl to kiss her friend (who is a girl) hello. Usually no problem, hugs and giggles all around.
Now ask a man to kiss his male friend hello, why happens?
"ugh dude WTF? What with all this gay man? Dude I don't swing that way, I like
My boner in girls" and so on.

Both sexes are equally unstable, narcisistic, manipulative and assholish in their own ways.
To say otherwise is absurd.

Ask a man to take off his shirt and he will.

Ask a woman to take off her shirt and you're a pervert unless they want to fuck you.

You're going to need something better than that.

Men have the need to show off their bodies to show females how big and manly they are and to show the other guys whose the big dog.

Women have be portrayed as objects and lesser individual for the last 2,000 odd years and have been treated as second class citizens.
Were are te point that women still get paid less for doing the same amount of work, women are far more subject to sexuall assault then men, women are frequently denied promotions an jobs or being female.
POP QUIZ: What is the ration of men to women being kidnapped and illegally trafficked into the sex industry.

I'm guessing your a White middle class male.

Women have been through and still go through far, far more than you or I could possibly imagine.
And being a shovanistic pig is not helping.

That's a bit of a stretch. I wasn't talking about attractive men. I was talking about any men.

Shouldn't women be getting hired more than men and getting more promotions if they do equal work for less? But no, they need Affirmative Action and, according to you, that still isn't enough to justify having a woman work for you. I wonder why?

ANSWER: Dunno, but wouldn't easier targets make more sense? That tends to feed into my inferiority argument, not take away from it. You could ask me what the ratio of children to adult men kidnapped is too, it's just as silly.

Correct guess. I'm guessing you aren't allergic to penicillin. I'm probably right too, it's easy to guess correct when you pick the option with 95% odds.

"What they've been through" is no excuse.

 

[Raven_Operative]

*SNIP*

Spoiler: I'll see your space marine, and raise you a tesla trooper!

 

[dstryfe]

Well all right, let's give this a go, then. I don't see how it could possibly be offensive, as it's the shit end of a double standard, but I get a ton of flak for this, so it's in spoilers. If you're offended easily, then don't read it.

Spoiler: Women

"Don't hit a girl" is the most accepted bunch of rubbish outside of "asking for it" with skimpy clothes. If you want to be treated equally, expect me to bloody well hit you back when you hit me; I won't suffer a punch from you any more than I would suffer one from a man, nor will I resist throwing a rock at you when you've just thrown one at me. If you pick a fight with me, expect me to fight back.