What's your controversial opinion?

[Voxgizer]

I have several. Then again, I'm a Liberal, Pagan, Bisexual female living in the bible belt.

1) The US is NOT a christian nation. It's right there (several times) in the Constitution. People refusing to believe this does not make it false. No religion, or it's beliefs, should be taught in schools. No religion or it's beliefs should be allowed to dictate law. No religion should have carte blanche to to shit talk and demonize any other religion (or atheists.)

2) Illegal aliens should be rounded up and shipped back to where they came from, and border security needs to beefed to the max. I lived in Sanctuary City (AKA Houston, Texas) most of my life...I've seen what these people do. The "they just come here for a better life" story people use to pull heart strings is a total crock. Also, while we're at it, get rid of citizenship upon birth. At least one parent MUST be a citizen.

3) Free speech needs relooked. I understand the importance of the law, don't get me wrong. But when you have Faux Noise brainwashing a good chunk of the country like it does and hiding from any and all punishment behind the First Amendment, or Westboro Baptist being completely immune from punishment for the harm they cause people...No. There needs to be a way for other citizens to hold these people, and any others who would abuse the power, accountable.

4) Stop thinking your beliefs trump my rights. I should be able to marry any consenting adult I want. And the only other people who should have any weight in a decision over my body are the guy involved and my doctor.

5) Tax churches. They long ago stopped adhering to the "No political preaching" rule. And on that note, NO TAX DOLLARS for "faith based initiatives." If you can piss and moan about your tax dollars going to my healthcare, I should be able to deny you mine for your religious shit.

Think that's plenty enough to have me several quotes of flaming when I log in next.

Flame? No. Praise? Hell. Yes.

As for my belief...

I suppose my controversial belief is that the African-American people who use "slavery" and "racism" to cause trouble, get out of trouble, or some combination of the two really need to shut the fuck up. Africans were NOT the only people to be enslaved and I'd say that the Jews had it worse in world war II.

Then again, I'm just tired of hearing it. I was called a racist once because a co-worker put a customer's item at the front of a line during holidays when the lines were long. The customer got up to the front of the line where I was cashiering and said we were racists, that we only put it there because she was black. No, you stupid fucking cow, we put it there because we're nice people that don't want you to have to stand there with arms packed even more than they are and for you to be uncomfortable. Die in a fire.

This is the kind of shit I hear all the time where I live, and it makes me see that there's a distinction between African-Americans and...well, that other word that people call black folks. It drives me up the fucking wall. I'm not a racist, I've had fewer white friends growing up than any other racial type. The only thing their racism is doing is keeping it alive and promoting it.

Oh my, I seem to have put way more into this than I meant to.

 

[minimacker]

I believe Capitalism is wrong.

 

[Tentickles]

I believe animals have more worth than human's do.
Im pretty sure a good chunk of the population agrees with me on this.
Ask yourself why you care more when you hear about animal abuse then when you hear about some stranger dying...

 

[Shockolate]

Anyone who commits suicide is weak willed and doesn't deserve my respect, with exceptions.

I've gotten flame for it before, and I know it's not particularly right, but I hate to see life squandered.

 

[Tentickles]

If your newborn child shows the symptoms of having an utterly debilitating congenital condition, then you should be made aware of the fact that he/she will never be a human,

Niiccee.

[sarcasm]Obviously Jasmine is not human thanks to her bone disease. Best her parents sever ties with her before she has a chance to fill their lives with love and laughter. Rather than, say, make the child's brief life happy and full of family and friends, just cut the middle man and do the disease's job for it. Obviously you are in the position to decide what human being should live and who should die. Oh, I know! Maybe you should be the one to explain to the newborn's parents all about how their child is not human and should be put down.[/sarcasm]

Clearly the presence of my morality renders us incapable of agreement and this will be nothing but a pointless back and forth - an exercise in forum waste.

For that reason, I'm done.

I tend to agree with similar.squirrel. My best friend's little sister is extremely autistic. We actually had a conversation that went along the lines of this:
Me: "If you and your sister were about to die, who would you want me to save?"
BF: "Me, my sister isnt really... alive. She just takes up space, money and my families patience."
Me: "Yeah, I see what you mean."

Her sister is 18 and my best friend is going to have to take care of her the rest of her life. Could you imagine having to do that? Feed her, bathe her, change her diaper?

 

[BabyRaptor]

By Christian Acts i meant an act that a Christian should do, like helping people when they are in need, even if doing so hurts you. Or comforting someone who is in pain.

I wasn't trying to imply supremacy, just show that we don't have a Monopoly on good acts committed on earth.

also, please don't judge the whole faith based on a few fundamentalists. It would be like judging all atheists based on Bill Mahr.

My judgement of the faith is mainly composed of my time practicing the religion. I'll pass on the details here, if you're curious you can message me. The fundies are just icing on the cake. If icing were something that angered you.

 

[barium56]

Here are a few of my somewhat controversial beliefs:

- Nothing is a crime until it affects someone other than the perpetrator in a way they a) do not have control over and b) do not want. Once a crime is committed however, the criminal has, in addition to standard judicial punishments, forfeited whatever rights they infringed upon with regards to their victim. In the cases of murder, the criminal no longer has the right to live. In the cases of infringing on rights the criminal no longer has (e.g. a child rapist stealing the innocence of a child) the criminal deserves cruel and painful punishment until they have experienced suffering equal to that which they have inflicted, based on the ruling of an (as much as humanly possible) objective party.

- Lives are only "sacred" to those affected by them. A billion anonymous deaths matter less to me than the death of a friend. Related to this belief is: People only matter in my life as long as I keep them in it. Once someone has exited my life's stage, I do not care about them until I bring them back.

- Humanity at its most basic, fundamental core is "bad," in that "good" is defined as selflessness, humility, etc. No amount of positive change enacted by people to affect those other than themselves will ever make up for the negative change/pain inflicted by people onto others.

- More things happened in previous ages (relative to the speed allowed by the era's technology) due to less conformity to "morality" and "ethics". I can't say whether this is a good thing or a bad thing. What I can say is that conformity to morality and ethics will most assuredly slow progress, but whether or not sacrificing progress for morality/ethics is worth it is unknown.

- Humanity is, and will always be hypocritical. Corollaries of this belief are: everyone with whom I disagree is wrong, everything that I don't like shouldn't happen, and anyone who inflicts pain upon me deserves retribution.

- Anything taken to an extreme (most choose to project this onto religion, I prefer to keep it open-ended) is most likely going to produce negative results.

- People who, while unprovoked, actively pursue infringing on others' happiness are "worse" people than I am, and I am right to feel superior to them. People who indirectly condone infringing on others' happiness are better, but not innocent (I'm aware that this includes me).

- (This one is weirdly naive and light-hearted) When observed in retrospect, and taking into account all aspects of an individual's life, the relative amount of pain and joy (to fallaciously attempt to distill the spectrum of emotion into two words) experienced by each and every human being is equal.

- (This is a kind of "Wish from a genie" situation) If I could guarantee that no one I care about would die and that a semblance of the status quo of my immediate surroundings would remain intact, I would gladly permit the humane, painless, instant and simultaneous extermination of 2/3 of the world's population.

This one is my favorite, as it pretty much invalidates everything I've (and most anyone ever has) said.

- Everyone's opinion is not equal. The value of a given opinion is directly proportional to the percentage of total objective knowledge relating to the opinion known and understood by the person expressing it. Related: people are entitled to their opinion only until their opinion threatens the acceptance of a more valuable opinion based on the metric of value stated above.

 

[370999]

I beleive that human beings ar ehte most important thing on this Earth. I don't mean that in the typical hippy way but to me if I was given the choice between every dolphin or one african girl I would pick the girl, every time.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I'm familiar with this in spite of not being much of a Star Trek fan, so I must ask: Do they ever explain how that might be, in any way whatsoever, a feasible form of Governance and economy?

Common sense grounded in the context of OUR world tells us that there is zero possibility of that system working here. What's different in Star Trek?

No. They never explain. In fact, let me paraphrase something from Deep Space Nine (One of the spinoffs):
Alien Boy: Why didn't you get [whatever]?
Human Boy: Its not my fault I'm human, I have no money!
No one ever explains how people are able to trade. Through barter, I guess? Wierdly, the Fed is made of all kinds of species, but the no money rule seems to only apply to humans. Maybe its just the goverment workers that don't take pay. The human boy in the example was a captain's son. That would explain a lot.

So they have nearly 3 decades (give or take) of Fiction and yet they didn't explain how the future Works? Wow, what an EPIC fail in world-building.

I think I'm just going to stick with Mass Effect and Star Wars, thanks. Even "Space Magic" is a better explanation than "*shrug"....

 

[Nanaki316]

I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.

Never seen you post before but I actually think it's nice that you think like that. I'm a Christian too, and I already see a lot of people in this topic saying religion is shit and all the rest of it so I'm about ready to get shot down to.

OT: I'm not sure I really have an opinion on something that would cause HUGE controversy. If I think of one I'll have to post again!

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Despite being completely non-religious I don't believe religion is a bad thing. Furthermore, I find religion bashing to be annoying and it seems to me that many athiests treat their belief as a religion.

I believe the right to own firearms in America is a very good thing.

I believe prostitution should be legal and taxed heavily.

I believe marijuana should be legal and taxed even more heavily.

I'm very Pro-Choice.

Halo Combat Evolved is the best shooter ever and the sequels were also very good.

Dragon Age 2 was better than the original.

Oblivion is better than Morrowind.

Fallout 3 & New Vegas are better than Fallout 1 & 2.

Yay Capitalism!

Wow, I agree with everything in this post except for the Dragon Age bit.
OP: I do not believe it should be acted upon, but I view pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

 

[Mcmuffin]

I believe everyone should be chemically sterilized then when they want to have children you must go through a rigorous testing process, IQ, State of Living, etc... once you pass all those tests you can get the reversing agent so you are no longer sterile. i realize this is impossible, but when it it i think it should be done. You may think im a terrible person but i dont enjoy having millions of abused starving children, also the earth is overpopulated,

 

[Barciad]

At the end of WWII, we should have ethnically cleansed Austria of all Germans (just like the Russians did in East Prussia) and invited the Jews to use that as their homeland. In order to defend themselves, the USA could give them some Mustangs that they wouldn't be using any more and the Russians could hand over some excess T-34s.
It would have become a neutral buffer state between East and West. It would have been rather poetic justice to a country that was anything but the victim it later claimed to be. Bluntly speaking, the Austrians were in on it from day one. Unhappy at losing their once powerful empire, they gladly sold their soul away.
Plus, there would be some Palestinians wouldn't get treated like untermensch every day. Everyone's a winner.
Now runs away and cowers somewhere.....

 

[Faladorian]

Well, to go along with the OP, it's about religion.


I think religion is the tar pit thats holding the human race back in the Bronze Age.


Yes, ALL RELIGION. Not just the delightfully irrational and crazy ones like Christianity and Scientology, but ALL OF THEM.

There's no such thing as a benign falsehood. People make decisions based on their beliefs, and if somebody believes something irrational, they're going to make irrational decisions.

Spoiler: Pretty much how I feel about religion:

 

[Hexal6]

i'm an atheist. My opinion is that i dont believe in god, but i do believe in karma. Whenever i say something like this i get hordes of Christians trying to talk at me and convert me or tell me im wrong. I dont discredit religion, i just dont agree with it, im not trying to teach anyone that they shouldn't believe in god. Also, i dont think abortion should be illegal.

 

[lSHaDoW-FoXl]

I'm one of those crazed animal rights fellows that disdains humanism so from the get go a lot of my opinions are at the very least 'controversial'. In most cases I'm at tolerable because I'm not one of those stereotypical vegetarians that go around telling people how 'meat is bad.' Hell, in an ironic twist it's usually the other way around - people are always telling me to eat meat. Oops, I almost went on a rant about hypocrisy and double standards.

But I digress. Here are the controversial things I believe in:

Fur Farming - While on most animal rights issues I'm tolerant this is the one where I get really pissed off and aggressive. You know those crazed religious creationists and homophobes? Yeah, on this topic I act a tad like them. I won't tell you why I'm against fur farming (after all, this is a thread on controversial opinions, not preaching how fur is bad) but I will tell you why it's controversial. While it's easy to have the moral high ground being against a wasteful un needed industry I consider this opinion controversial because I'm against fur farming to an extreme. In fur farming there are no buts, ifs, or ands. My stance is against it on every level, even if it's needed.

Religion - I'm an Atheist and I believe going to church should only be allowed for adults and that it should only be completely optional. Regardless of whether there really is a god or not it's still ultimately brainwashing if a child is basically forced against there will to go somewheres that basically force feeds them on how they 'should' act a certain way . . . or else.

Father Knows Best Parenting - No, he fucking doesn't. Our parents are practically just figureheads that pollute our mind with their own self righteous garbage. In my youth I was a complete and utter brat. And you know what? Despite me being a horrible little dipshit I was still right on some issues and in retrospect I now understand that the beliefs my parents had shouldn't hold anymore weight then the ones I have. All rules should be questioned. If they exist 'just because I said so' then that's simply not a good rule. Besides, every single war out there, was it any more of the fault of the leader who spread bull shit lies or the parents telling their children these lies?

Pirating - I can honestly say I never do this (And fuck you to those that think I do just because I hold an opinion in support of it. Again, fuck you.) but I'm in support of it. I just hate businesses and I hate how they abuse copyright laws, DRM, and all this other bull shit just so they can suck up all the money.

Pedophilia - I have nothing against it. If you want to fuck a child you can fantasize about it all you want. Heck, I won't even care if you fap to boys drawn on paper. As long as everything you do doesn't involve a real child I just don't care.

Prostitution - Legalize it, because pretending it's not there isn't doing shit. If someone wants to offer 'services' then let them. Besides, with it legalized we can have records on them, they can be safer, and they can do their businesses in more appropriate manners.

Pornography - I get pissed off when these morons that no (intentional for irony) absolutely nothing complain about how the women are objectified and they fail to realize that the men in the porno industry (unlike the ladies) got it pretty fucking bad. While female pornstars are appreciated for their bodies male porn stars are basically just a piece of meat going in and out of the lady. And if that's not enough they're paid less, are more likely to get diseases, and did I mention they're paid a lot less?

Politicians - Why the fuck are they paid so much? And while they're paid so much why do we continually complain when we have to pay just a bit more for our services? People, you suck.

P.S - My keyboard blows.

 

[Frankster]

I believe an implementation of a parent license or a child policy is needed globally.
I've heard the argument "reproducing is a fundamental human right" and I think that's BS since it goes beyond your individual right and affects that of your child.

Between overpopulation, parents having kids they are incapable of providing for and just horrible parenting, I believe there are enough valid reasons to at least consider my point of view, what is needed is to sort out the moral kinks and the technicalities of it (for example, id never tell someone to kill their child because they have too many, nah if you give birth to more then is allowed, consider yourself fortunate). How to prevent people from having kids illegally would be a headache...Probably involves some intrusive scientifical procedure which I'm not sure I'd be ok with.

Let's just say I believe in the above, not sure how it would be executed though.

Controversial opinion #2: I believe a good monarchy>democracy any day.
A king has been bought up from birth to do their job, they do not care about pleasing the majority or playing mindgames since they have a personal stake in the country and its future success.
The kings interests is his own and that of his legacy, so would be less susceptible to exterior influences, so for example,lobbies wouldn't be the driving force in politics like they are today (something which undermines the entire political process imo and has been the source of more laws then you'd think...)
The problem is when you have a bad or crappy king....

But seriously I'd rather be ruled by 1 elite bloodline born for the role then be ruled by a class of elites with conflicting agendas and narrow vision.
Also having 1 ruler will enable him to focus on a grand strategy, something a democratically elected leader is unable to do simply because they are only in their post for a few years, and this period is spent fighting other political forces to get their way, ultimately resulting in very little getting done.

 

[The Funslinger]

EDIT: Posting screw up. See below.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

I'm pro-choice and see nothing wrong with abortion

I strongly dislike babies

as well as the people who treat them as trophies, proclaiming "See?! I've accomplished what society expects of me! I am SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU!!"

I do not believe humans are made for monogamy, and applaud promiscuity

I also do not believe in TRUE LOVE

Nor do I consider relationships to be the ultimate 'state' for a human being

Consequently, I consider marriage to be a load of horse-bollocks

The abrahamic religions should die in a fire

Fuck celebrities

I have little respect for those who drop out of school without a very valid reason

90% of the entertainment today is shit, except with TV and movies, where the number is 99%

Spoiler: Extremely controversial and sick

H-bomb africa to put them out of their AIDS-filled misery, then repopulate it with people who understand the importance of condoms and such

 

[The Funslinger]

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If it interests you, I'll explain the stem cell thing in more detail, though still fairly simply. There are different types of stem cells, in different places. For instance, there are stem cells on the inside of your cheek. That's why if you take a DNA test, you swab the inside of your cheek. When wounds heal, it's stem cells that become the new flesh and such. Thing is, these stem cells are only partially unspecialized. It's the embryonic stem cells that are completely unspecialized and could be used for anything with the right science. That's why they're so important.

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Well to be honest, I couldn't care less if being gay is/isn't a choice. If it isn't, fair enough. If it is, it's certainly not a choice I would begrudge anyone, as I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality on any level.

Well since there's been a thread that asked what opinion you had that others disagreed with, I'm taking it a step further. What opinion do you have that might cause outrage? (game hate when among said game's fanboys not withstanding.) If you feel the need, spoiler it, and put in the spoiler tag who it may offend.

Spoiler: devout religious people

I want to preface this by saying that I am a huge fan of culture and tradition, and for that reason, I do believe that various religious practices and ceremonies should continue due to their traditional and cultural value. However, while tradition can be important to maintain the identity of your people (If you're that kind of person) I do feel that when it comes to logical and scientific decision making, religion should not be factored, and until it is removed as a factor from important decisions like this, humanity is being held back. This can range from decisions of logic and safety, like the use of condoms, to steps in science such as Stem Cell research. While I appreciate the philosophical and moral aspects of this, the religious aspect of such an opinion is only getting in the way of dealing with it reasonably. I would say that the best solution would be some kind of checkbox when donating sperm, or eggs to a fertility clinic. Removing the emotional attachment a pregnant woman might feel towards the life growing inside her will help I realize it sounds a little harsh, and am only stating it as a step in the right direction. If I had to give a historical example, I would point out how several interpretations of religion forbade the dissection of humans, and it was only with the founding of the Greek city of Alexandria that things slowly came about to a more logical point of view.

It isn't my intention to pointlessly offend, and I have tried to state my argument in a reasonable way, suitable for a level headed debate.

Edit: Also, the forum posting button freaked out on me, I don't know if it'll mess stuff up.

Thank you for making this thread... It really shows me just how damned stupid some of these people are.

Uh... You're welcome? If you're talking about the people who use religion to block science, a lot of them were just raised like that, and it's difficult to abandon an entire belief system. That said, there are people who are just infuriating. (see people who use the argument "it's just the theory of evolution", or act condescendingly about it and call it a fairy tale) I'd admit they're dumb as bricks any day. That said, if you want something to laugh at, go and dig up the thread about portal 2 "promoting anal sex", click the link to where it originated from, and read away. It's either huge trolling, or severe delusion.