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Amphoteric said:
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I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
Not exactly, I mean more the physiological defintion of a child (before puberty) and in that I include babies and infants too. From my perspective at around the age of 9 to 12 depending on the individual their inherent innocence will begin to disappear and so over the next 2 to 4 years their value will decrease until they become a young adult.
 

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I believe the human race is gonna eventually reach an unsustainable population and will then descend into chaos as we fight for the last of our resources. This'll probably end in nuclear war, leaving a very small percentage of the population to barely scratch by in a barren earth overtaken by nuclear winter. Imo, we need some sort of population control to nip this inevitable problem in the bud. The most humane way I can think of is implementing some sort of reproductive suppression field like in Half Life, while letting certain individuals reproduce based on genetic purity. The selling point will be "Hey, at least you don't have to wear condoms anymore." I pitched this to my high-school philosophy class once, they seemed to like the no condoms part.
 

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JoJoDeathunter said:
Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
Not exactly, I mean more the physiological defintion of a child (before puberty) and in that I include babies and infants too. From my perspective at around the age of 9 to 12 depending on the individual their inherent innocence will begin to disappear and so over the next 2 to 4 years their value will decrease until they become a young adult.
So the more useful you are to society, the less your life is worth? You know, because children contribute absolutely nothing except to leech resources while giving nothing in return for a decade or 2.
 

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I believe my 'pedophilia isn't a mental disorder' opinion is probably the most controversial. As long as they (or anyone else, of any orientation or with any fetish, desire, ect.) don't act out upon those desires in a way that harms children or other people, then I don't see what the problem is. I have desires (both sexual and non-sexual) that if acted upon in certain ways, would either be inappropriate, harmful, or otherwise, but just because I have those desires doesn't mean I'm going to automatically act out upon them. I'm a human being, I have a conscious. Just because someone is a pedophile doesn't mean they aren't human. Some pedophiles do immoral things, but so do a number of straight, gay, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, black, white, brown, Christian, atheist and Muslim people out there.
 

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Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
Not exactly, I mean more the physiological defintion of a child (before puberty) and in that I include babies and infants too. From my perspective at around the age of 9 to 12 depending on the individual their inherent innocence will begin to disappear and so over the next 2 to 4 years their value will decrease until they become a young adult.
So the more useful you are to society, the less your life is worth? You know, because children contribute absolutely nothing except to leech resources while giving nothing in return for a decade or 2.
Ah ha but you're conflating practical utility with worth, I'd argue that children give their worth in other measures such as the value and meaning they give to their parent's life. Inherently a child is something worth protecting and defending greater than that of the average human being, and so more valuable. Though I've found in the past this opinion is controversial on this site I suspect that if a group of parents were polled then the average opinion would be far closer to my own.
 

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Well I think we're already in this boat together, so I'll add this without fear!

I believe that humanity should establish fixed population controls to stabilize our species' numbers. We're heading straight to a Malthusian crisis and we've got to stop it.
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
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LawlessSquirrel said:
Spoiler'd to avoid unintentionally offending anyone. Topic is paedophilia.
I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.
I love you.

OT: Well, my opinion is related to the above but would guarantee a ban, so, I am not allowed to state my controversial opinion.

Sad, because it would surely be the most controversial, almost guaranteed. >.>
Well, it's obvious what you're going to say and my god is that disgusting.
You don't even know what I was going to say! XD

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
LawlessSquirrel said:
Spoiler'd to avoid unintentionally offending anyone. Topic is paedophilia.
I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.
I love you.

OT: Well, my opinion is related to the above but would guarantee a ban, so, I am not allowed to state my controversial opinion.

Sad, because it would surely be the most controversial, almost guaranteed. >.>
Well you got me curios ??can you PM with it ?
No rule against that. :p

Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
That's not what he said. :L
 

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TheLaofKazi said:
I believe my 'pedophilia isn't a mental disorder' opinion is probably the most controversial. As long as they (or anyone else, of any orientation or with any fetish, desire, ect.) don't act out upon those desires in a way that harms children or other people, then I don't see what the problem is. I have desires (both sexual and non-sexual) that if acted upon in certain ways, would either be inappropriate, harmful, or otherwise, but just because I have those desires doesn't mean I'm going to automatically act out upon them. I'm a human being, I have a conscious. Just because someone is a pedophile doesn't mean they aren't human. Some pedophiles do immoral things, but so do a number of straight, gay, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, black, white, brown, Christian, atheist and Muslim people out there.
+1.

Also, your wording is tricky. Following said wording, they also fit in with my beliefs. XD

Brofist to wording that is intentionally tricky or just misread. XD
 

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I hate democracy. I realize that it's mostly a product of my mild misanthropy but I think that as a whole, humans are very, very stupid and the prospect of very, very stupid people (who are in the majority, mind you) being the ones who control the world is scary. I whole-heartedly support meritocracy.
 

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
That's not what he said. :L
He said children have more value than Adults, therefore when a child becomes an adult their life is worth less.
 

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
LawlessSquirrel said:
Spoiler'd to avoid unintentionally offending anyone. Topic is paedophilia.
I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.
I love you.

OT: Well, my opinion is related to the above but would guarantee a ban, so, I am not allowed to state my controversial opinion.

Sad, because it would surely be the most controversial, almost guaranteed. >.>

I am SO curious. Wanna PM me too? :p

OT:
I think abortion should be a right given to all and any women, and available on the HSE (NHS or general health service). I think it should be available for any reason the woman wants, and should not be so expensive that a certain demographic of people cannot afford it, and should not have such a stigma attached, because if I am not ready for a child, I am NOT keeping it.
 

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I hate Obama and all of his polocies, supprisingly controversial. I am bisexual, which in my community is controversial. I (obviously) support gay rights. I believe life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. If you want no baby, don't get pregnant. I support the right to bear arms, If a criminal wants a gun with which to shoot somebody, he will still get one even if they are illegal, because criminals don't obey the law, but then the law abiding citizens won't have a gun to defend themselves with. I am a southern american, and I hate almost everything about America. It USED to be the greatest country in the world, then dumbasses were elected, and that changed. Although I am an athiest, I don't think everybody else has to be, because of freedom, and all morals and values go back to religon in some way or another. Also, I hate the laws preventing a cop from shooting dangerous criminals. Only a few days ago, my best friends dad, who is a cop, and 2 others were killed by a criminal, who was shot and killed by a third cop, who was fired and charged with murder. So yah america's legal system can fuck right off.
 

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
+1.

Also, your wording is tricky. Following said wording, they also fit in with my beliefs. XD

Brofist to wording that is intentionally tricky or just misread. XD
Thank you! I'm glad someone else agrees with me.

I wasn't trying to make my wording tricky, sometimes it just comes out that way I guess :p. When I read it, it seems to make good sense to me. Maybe it would have flowed better if I broke it up into smaller chunks of text, instead of the giant block I had.
 

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Amphoteric said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
Amphoteric said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
I think that children's lives are inherently more valuable than those of adults,
So when you go from 17 to 18 your life is worth less?
That's not what he said. :L
He said children have more value than Adults, therefore when a child becomes an adult their life is worth less.
Yet one does not become an "adult" at 18. Laws may state it, but laws do not rule over nature. And, laws vary.

Iznat said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
LawlessSquirrel said:
Spoiler'd to avoid unintentionally offending anyone. Topic is paedophilia.
I feel paedophiles get viewed worse than they should. You rape a child, then by all means you're bringing down the rightful hatred of those around you, but paedophiles aren't destined to do harmful things. That they're judged as a whole for the worst possible manifestation of their condition seems wrong to me.
I love you.

OT: Well, my opinion is related to the above but would guarantee a ban, so, I am not allowed to state my controversial opinion.

Sad, because it would surely be the most controversial, almost guaranteed. >.>

I am SO curious. Wanna PM me too? :p
Yesh. :p
 

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TheLaofKazi said:
LegendaryGamer0 said:
+1.

Also, your wording is tricky. Following said wording, they also fit in with my beliefs. XD

Brofist to wording that is intentionally tricky or just misread. XD
Thank you! I'm glad someone else agrees with me.

I wasn't trying to make my wording tricky, sometimes it just comes out that way I guess :p. When I read it, it seems to make good sense to me. Maybe it would have flowed better if I broke it up into smaller chunks of text, instead of the giant block I had.
Might have been my inner lawyer/troll(not much of a difference really :p) reading it in loophole. :p

But yes, in agree. :p
 

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
You don't even know what I was going to say! XD
True. But I think it's pretty obvious where you were going.

If you weren't going that way, I'm very sorry. If you were... well, what I would say to that would also see me banned.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.
You're suggesting the forceful act of degrading another human being to the level of object to be used for self-gratification against all their will and right, disregarding all the causal immediate pain and intense suffering to follow, can result in love because you read it in a comic?

I hope to god you never have to learn how wrong you are.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
TheDarkEricDraven said:
I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.
You're suggesting the forceful act of degrading another human being to the level of object to be used for self-gratification against all their will and right, disregarding all the causal immediate pain and intense suffering to follow, can result in love because you read it in a comic?

I hope to god you never have to learn how wrong you are.
Not because of, thats just an example. Another would be Luke and Laura Spencer from General Hospital.
Because day time soap drama on television is more reliable a source of reality than comics?

Seriously, if you consider the greatest possible harm one can do to another to be capable of producing love in some instances... well, we're done here. For good.
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
TheDarkEricDraven said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
TheDarkEricDraven said:
I beleve that rape can result in love. Not near usual, but some of the time. Like in Watchmen.
You're suggesting the forceful act of degrading another human being to the level of object to be used for self-gratification against all their will and right, disregarding all the causal immediate pain and intense suffering to follow, can result in love because you read it in a comic?

I hope to god you never have to learn how wrong you are.
Not because of, thats just an example. Another would be Luke and Laura Spencer from General Hospital.
Because day time soap drama on television is more reliable a source of reality than comics?

Seriously, if you consider the greatest possible harm one can do to another to be capable of producing love in some instances... well, we're done here. For good.
Or the Shiek, or in some interpretations, Twilight. Really, I'm not saying "Rape=OMG TRUE LUV =D" I'm saying "Some times." I really can't stress that enough. Very unusual.
And the only evidence you have to support your absurdly offensive claims that the dehumanizing and abuse of a fellow human being to the point where many such victims commit suicide can result in love, is a few TV drama's you've watched...

Your words are an insult to every man, woman and child that's been abused.

We're done.
 

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I have a few although the one I'm most keen on right now is this: Religion is absolute nonsense. I respect everyones' rights to believe whatever they want to believe as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, but the more you look at both sides of the argument the less sense religion makes.