SillyBear said:
jamiedf said:
Greni said:
Ah, almost forgot.
jamiedf said:
I think laws are absolute, if something is made into a legally binding rule then whether you agree with it or not, even if it is ridiculous or outrageous. and any one breaking them, even in a minor degree should be punished too the full extent possible.
This statement is on the verge of fascism, we could have so much fun together.
Although I call troll on this one.
excuse me, what have I said to make you think that? and it is hardly fascism, i think laws are there for a reason, and just because you dont agree with them is no excuse to ignore them
If the public are unable to protest laws and state their disagreement with new legislation, then social progress is instantly stunted. Have a think about how different our society would be today if people were never permitted to disagree with legislation, and if all crimes wielded the same punishment. We would still be practicing slavery, there would be no mixed race marriages, domestic abuse would be largely undetected, children would be working by age 12 and there would be no such thing as human rights and welfare.
Public back lashing to unpopular laws is a fantastic thing for social progress. If it were prohibited then we would be stuck in the social stone age. It would allow the powerful to create whatever laws they wish to exploit whomever they wish and no one would be able to contest that. You would lose out.
How the fuck can you even think that is a good idea?
I said nothing about the prevention of protest, nor did i say all crimes deserve the same punishment, what i said was people should be expected to obey the laws of their land, and if they choose to break these laws, then they should be punished as far as possible. now notice the bit were i said "as far as possible" this is in relation to their crime, i dont believe that people should be given different punishments "just because" this isnt to say that legitimate circumstances should be ignored, but only those recognised by law should hold any merit.
and like i said, i never said anything about not opposing the law, i just believe if you are going to protest it, you should use the legal means the system has provided, if you choose not to,and then break this law, you should be punished.
so please in future do not jump to conclusions so rashly