When can you speak ill of the dead?
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It depends on the person, if they were an asshole in life not deserving respect then I don't see why they should deserve it in death. I never understood why people are automatically deemed as being good and special when they die. Michael JAckson was the prime example, the media slanderized him in life and now they probably want to have hm given saint status. However this is not suprising, the media will print and boradcast whatever sells and gets ratings, not what is necessarily true.
A persons death reminds people that everyone, regardless of there evils, tried to do the most good they could, given what they had and the beliefs they arrived at. And it's good to remember that now and again. Hate the legacy or the belief system they espoused all you want, we have the rest of our lives to argue that. But a person goes into the ground, your cold if you don't remember that they were a human before they were anything else.
Whenever I want to. If there is no punishment stopping me and something needs said, or if that something benefits me, then I'll say it.
It's not the dead person who I don't want to offend, it's their living family.
This sounds sappy, especially for me, but everyone is kinda special.
It's not the dead person who I don't want to offend, it's their living family.
Yeah, for anybody to have ever been born it's a one in a million chance.Xanadu84 said:
This sounds sappy, especially for me, but everyone is kinda special.
yeah, same here, then one chick at my highschool (seeking attention no less) has went crazy over Micheal Jackson. I simply said one joke about the guy, and she started making a fuss toward me, I told he "you didn't know the man, neither did I, if you can make praises, I can make slander." need-less to say, she blew up.Jedoro said:
Just because they're dead, we can't speak ill of them? That's stupid logic, what about Hitler?
Person A- Dude, have you read this book? Wow, Hitler was a f*cked up guy!
Person B- BRO, HAVE SOME MANNERS, HE'S DEAD!
Person A- Oh, well, um... apparently he made a kick ass Mac N' Cheese.
Person B- Sweet...
Person A- Dude, have you read this book? Wow, Hitler was a f*cked up guy!
Person B- BRO, HAVE SOME MANNERS, HE'S DEAD!
Person A- Oh, well, um... apparently he made a kick ass Mac N' Cheese.
Person B- Sweet...
How does belonging to a certain species of mammal suddenly make you so damn important?Xanadu84 said:
If there are 6.5 billion people alive, and billions more dead, how is one in a million even remotely special? Besides, not everyone can be kind of special. To be special you'd have to be different. Everyone being special is impossible. If they were all absolutely different then difference would then be normal.matnatz said:
I'd say it depends on whether you know the person and what they did/accomplished in their life. For example if a well known person in my area that knew everybody died but I didn't like them that much, I wouldn't speak ill of them unless they had actually done some really bad stuff. As with MJ and Jade Goodie, Michael Jackson made a lot of good music in his life, sure he may have had a shady private life but in 50 years time, what are people going to remember? His music or his private life?
Jade Goodie on the other hand, as far as I know, never accomplished anything other than "winning" a reality TV show in which you basically sit around talking about nothing with some other random people once and then being featured on the same TV show again a few years later as a celebrity, only to get voted off because she made a blatantly racist and offensive comment. She was then diagnosed with and died from cancer, OK yes, someone dying from cancer is a tragedy and I'm not going to deny that but it was over dramatised and people really shouldn't have made such a big deal over her dying when thousands of others suffer the same fate and instead of leaving their families with millions of pounds from various media outlets, their families will often have to struggle on with nothing.
It didn't bother me as such when either of these two celebrities died although I felt that the death of Jade Goodie (and that she was portrayed as some kind of saint) was a 'slight' over reaction however people will joke about anything that happens to a celebrity, local or global so there's no real point in getting offended at it.
Jade Goodie on the other hand, as far as I know, never accomplished anything other than "winning" a reality TV show in which you basically sit around talking about nothing with some other random people once and then being featured on the same TV show again a few years later as a celebrity, only to get voted off because she made a blatantly racist and offensive comment. She was then diagnosed with and died from cancer, OK yes, someone dying from cancer is a tragedy and I'm not going to deny that but it was over dramatised and people really shouldn't have made such a big deal over her dying when thousands of others suffer the same fate and instead of leaving their families with millions of pounds from various media outlets, their families will often have to struggle on with nothing.
It didn't bother me as such when either of these two celebrities died although I felt that the death of Jade Goodie (and that she was portrayed as some kind of saint) was a 'slight' over reaction however people will joke about anything that happens to a celebrity, local or global so there's no real point in getting offended at it.
It doesn't matter, they are dead and people are grieving so frankly.. Keep your mouth shut if all you're going to do is bash them.. It is sort of like kicking a dead horse while he's down.ZSF said:
Sure, ok, this girl was saying how sad it was that he died, and that she was huge fan (which was funny cause never once had she ever mentioned him or listened to his music openly) and that she thought we should all feel the same way. I never cared for Jackson, so I got up and said "yeah, you know what, all us guys should grab our dicks in remembrance of him, take a moment of silence and just beat it." I got that off a text emssage and my friends got a kick out of it. Well, the girl didn't, she started calling me every bad name in the book, I found that inherently funny, thats when I said the "you didn't know the man thing" and that really pissed her off. I started laughing, her friend gave me the bird, and me and my friends walked off laughing.matnatz said: