When game hate becomes laughable.

[GabeZhul]

Anything negative about Valve. Saying that Valve isn't the gaming equivalent of ALL of the deities that have ever existed, ever isn't the problem. The problem is the tidal wave of Valve fanboy reaction that is guaranteed to show itself. And boy oh boy does it get vicious ever so quickly.

Hello, My name is Sarge034 and I dislike Valve as a company.

Hooooooooooow daaaaaaaaaaaareeeeeeeee yooooooooouuuuuuuu!?!?!?!? OUTRAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEE!!! [/joking]

Yeah, though this one is usually a two-way street. As much as Valve fanboys like to fall on any topic regarding them, there are just as many counter-fanboys (is that even a term? it should be...) who would complain about anything Valve does just as a knee-jerk reaction. I have seen threads on other forums descend into flamewars where neither side really know what they were arguing about, only that one side deified Valve for some reason and the other side hated Valve for some reason.

 

[SKBPinkie]

I don't know, man - I think all game "hate" is bad.

Hatred and cynicism are so rampant on the internet, that people often misjudge a game for the smallest of things and even if they don't like the overall product, I feel like they don't actually hate it. They simply dislike it. It's an entertainment product, not something that has personally hurt or offended them.

 

[Sarge034]

Hooooooooooow daaaaaaaaaaaareeeeeeeee yooooooooouuuuuuuu!?!?!?!? OUTRAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEE!!! [/joking]

Yeah, though this one is usually a two-way street. As much as Valve fanboys like to fall on any topic regarding them, there are just as many counter-fanboys (is that even a term? it should be...) who would complain about anything Valve does just as a knee-jerk reaction. I have seen threads on other forums descend into flamewars where neither side really know what they were arguing about, only that one side deified Valve for some reason and the other side hated Valve for some reason.

Yeah, I see less counter-hate than I do fanboy rage. That being said, I think all rage needs to appropriately applied. I dislike Valves policies but I love L4D, the good one, to death.

Spoiler: But sometimes you just gotta let loose...

 

[Madman123456]

Everything.
Beginning with the makers of the platforms themselves everyone has done something that should have thrown them out of the "race". Well,one could argue that on the PC platform, one or two manufacturers of this and that hardware haven't been acting like complete assholes but generally, most of the industry acts and has been acting like people i wouldn't want to do any business with.

The fact that many people don't even remember Sony's slight mishap with the loss of customer's credit card data speaks volumes to me. The fact that they are still around as a console manufacturer is something i would credit to fandom and/or stupidity. You have to play the new games it would seem and so you will have to buy those things apparently.
Same thing goes for microsoft. They back pedaled on just about everything with the Xbone but the fact that they even tried and the presentation back then which gives me the feeling that they think i'm a moron if i want to do business with them for the reason of wanting to do business with them is enough reason for me to not want to do business with them.
Also: very little new is shown for those new consoles, so i don 't know why anyone would buy them except for fandom.

On the PC platform, we have origin and Steam. Origin is basically malware that doesn't even function properly and Valve has this "greenlight" thing where they themselves wont play by their own rules (or so it seems) and the most likely explanation as to why some crappy bug plagued games which aren't even fully functional are getting through while others get stuck there forever might be bribes.
Valve wont care about that theory standing in the room and why would they. Gamers are used to companies having questionable business ethics and they're ok with that, apparently.

 

[IronMit]

No "fan over-reaction" thread can exist without Mass Effect 3

Not liking the ending? Fair enough
Complaining about the ending on the forums? Makes sense, that's why we have forums.
Demanding refunds of your 30 hour game because you hated the last 40 minutes? A little overboard I think but I suppose that's OK
Sending a bunch of cupcakes to the developers? ...getting creepy but that's kind of cute
Death Threats sent to Bioware? Alright guys, this isn't funny anymore
Pursuing legal action because you thought the ending was a breach of contract? ...I'm speechless.

So what is laughable is an extremely small minority of (35%?)players that hated the ending sent cup cakes,and of them a handful, probably in the single digits sent a death threat and seriously considered legal action.

cupcakes= It looked like to me that the cupcakes were to show it was not a minority of people that were upset as was claimed my games media. And by sending something they were putting their money where their mouth is and making a statement. It's in proportion to the situation- in some instances you just sign a letter, sometimes you go on a march, this situation called for cupcakes.

Death threats = This seems in proportion to the number of crazy people that say stupid things in society as a whole.

Legal action = This was not because the game was disappointing for some. It was due to false advertising claims. Someone claiming false advertising in any industry is never held up to 'omg another fan boy standard'. This isn't much different.

Demanding a refund because of the last 40 minutes = you mean the ending that explains plot? The entire reason behind everything happening ..... something that effects not only the 30hour game but the previous games? I personally think that you can't ask for a refund unless the whole thing is unenjoyable from start to end. But the ending does affect the entire product.

FYI I didn't send cupcakes, I just discussed the indoc theory a bit...and as I found major plotholes, inconsistencies and contrivances, I realised the story I invested a lot of my time in was being made up as it went along, and done so very poorly. Kind of like the last 3 seasons of Lost. As a result I no longer equate Bioware with high quality story telling so won't invest in their next story unless their marketing brainwashes me again.

That's a rational reaction in my books.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

As mentioned, when CoD fans get out the pitchforks over a milisecond of gun fire rate. I play Armored Core. Something is nerfed into the ground almost every patch. If they changed fire rate by 5 points it'd be a case of "fires a bit slower but is essentially the same weapon". Instead they change energy consumption for the Karasawa so it empties your gen on a single charge.

That said, I'm guilty of what a few people would class as laughable game hate. I hate that Monster Hunter is Nintendo-only and I hate that Bayonetta 2 is only on the Wii U. I don't hate Nintendo for it any more. But I hate that it is the case.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

All you have to do is go over to GameFAQs for stupidity. At least on the PS3 board FPSs are referred to as PAAGGs (play as a gun game) and games like The Last of Us are called Interactive Movies.

Then what *do* they like?

JRPGs are the greatest gift to man there even though there's very few good console JRPGs now and I'd say JRPGs are less interactive than something like The Last of Us as you have to go through a menu to tell your character to attack.

 

[FFP2]

Any Final Fantasy by a wide margin. Fanboys will ***** about everything, purely because it's not exactly like their favourite FF.

Makes me ashamed to even like the games.

 

[Pink Gregory]

Anything negative about Valve. Saying that Valve isn't the gaming equivalent of ALL of the deities that have ever existed, ever isn't the problem. The problem is the tidal wave of Valve fanboy reaction that is guaranteed to show itself. And boy oh boy does it get vicious ever so quickly.

Hello, My name is Sarge034 and I dislike Valve as a company.

My name is Pink Gregory, and somehow, I have never EVER seen Valve/Steam fanboyism on the internet. Honest.

Then again I stay the hell away from the Steam community ever since I glanced the community hub for XCOM Enemy Unknown...

Probably lucky.

 

[Pink Gregory]

I don't know, man - I think all game "hate" is bad.

Hatred and cynicism are so rampant on the internet, that people often misjudge a game for the smallest of things and even if they don't like the overall product, I feel like they don't actually hate it. They simply dislike it. It's an entertainment product, not something that has personally hurt or offended them.

I think because there's been a popular spate of critics, reviewers, entertainers etc having cynicism as 'their thing' - when they're actually quite far from cynical, and rather have specific opinions - has inspired people to think 'I can do that too!'.

And 95% of them can't.

 

[TrevHead]

Nintendo / WiiU hate is rather stupid imo and gets on my nerves, especially those that say the console has no games, yet goes ballistic when good games are exclusive to it. Happened with the Wii aswell, that had much the same hate and "no gamez" haters yet the platform had loads of 3d party exclusives, that everybody ignored at release.

I also wish more ppl would be more open minded when approaching new games that are too different and out of their comfort zones. Too many great games have flopped at launch, and 2 years later heralded as the best thing ever when everyone has dropped their preconceptions and views the game on it's own merits dooming any chance of a sequel.

Also ppl who downright hate whole genres and wish they would die raises an eyebrow from me, it's quite rare to see such sentiment nowadays but in the past it was quite common with retro game genres even among reviewers.

 

[EyeReaper]

Hmm... can I say the Visual novel hate? Because, when I see how anti-VN gamers can get, I laugh and shake my head, especially with some of the "Visual novels can never be considered games because they don't match up to MY judgements!" comments. Of course, that doesn't happen very much nowadays, as Visual Novels are so niche here in America that they make point-and-click games look mainstream.

Know what? I'll change mine. I know think it's incredibly silly for all those people who say "there's not enough gameplay to call this a game." (especially all the david cage rage)ecause, when you think about it, all video games are is just looking at a screen, and pressing buttons. It may be a complex combo of buttons, it may just be one button over and over, it may be buttons to the rhythm of a song or buttons that sporadically pop up during cutscenes, but it is still just pushing buttons over and over.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Mass Effect 3, by far, Mass Effect 3.
Not just because people overreacted, but how.

The ME3 controversy went so far down the rabbit hole, it culminated in the introduction of the misuse of the phrase "entitlement" into internet culture; often reducing the meaning of the word to ridiculous strawman argumentation.

Seriously, I've seen misuse of "entitlement" applied to fucking EVERYTHING.
Bad games, relationships, feminism, religion, preference of fucking COFFEE.

All because some gamers threw a huge tantrum over the ending of a video game.

So yeah, I have a bit of an axe to grind with that.

In the most common context of its misuse, "Entitlement" implies someone is wrong for demanding beyond their rights, but by the actual definition of "entitlement", that isn't true; in that context "False sense of entitlement" is true.

And, no internet, you can't just shorten the phrase to "Entitled/entitlement" as lingo or laziness.
Because by that logic "Don't Stop" could be shortened to "Stop".

It's fucking ridiculous.

 

[Raikas]

I think it's all laughable.

Not liking things is normal, being disappointed is fair, and complaining about those things makes perfect sense, but any time that complaining tips into people raging as though the designers/producers/community just killed their families it's absurd. If if they have a good point somewhere in that rage it's impossible to take anyone having that kind of reaction seriously.

 

[dl_wraith]

Aside from the aforementioned games (ME3, DmC and anything Sonic being particularly close to my own heart) the recent examples that came to mind were The Bureau: Xcom Declassified (the cry there being, "Its a SHOOTER?? WHAT NOW??"), the Diablo 3/SimCity DRM problem fury (legitimate concerns and upset but man did some people take that too far) and the constant whine about anything Valve that isn't Half Life 3.

For older examples I thought of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (remember THAT fury? All crying over the blondie new guy doing cartwheels in his bodystocking instead of playing grizzled ol' Snake), Spyro (when Insomniac ditched this and the franchise moved onto the handhelds in isometric view form) and the whole hoo-ha about Harmonix and Red Octane when the Guitar Hero franchise changed hands. For some reason I'm thinking of Command and Conquer too, but I can't remember why.

If you want to extend the idea a little try the Sega/Nintendo war or our current bugbear, the Sony/Microsoft tribal combat simulator.

Yeah, fanboy rage/hate is a stupid thing. While I find the rage amusing sometimes I do find the hate pointless and uncalled for. Metabombing was one of the tactics I found utterly distasteful when used to reinforce pointless game-hate (but it's not the only one).

Sigh. Fanboys. Will they ever change?

 

[Varrdy]

No "fan over-reaction" thread can exist without Mass Effect 3

Not liking the ending? Fair enough
Complaining about the ending on the forums? Makes sense, that's why we have forums.
Demanding refunds of your 30 hour game because you hated the last 40 minutes? A little overboard I think but I suppose that's OK
Sending a bunch of cupcakes to the developers? ...getting creepy but that's kind of cute
Death Threats sent to Bioware? Alright guys, this isn't funny anymore
Pursuing legal action because you thought the ending was a breach of contract? ...I'm speechless.

I was part of the whole "Retake Mass Effect" thing but I also have to agree that Death Treats and Legal action were going way the fuck too far and I said as much at the time.

The cupcakes were donated to a local orphanage / children's charity by BioWare. This also garnered a rather angry response from a small section of the Retake movement. Me, I applauded it. They stated that there was no way they could eat that many cupcakes so, rather than let them go stale or throw them out, they did something good with them.

 

[debtcollector]

So what is laughable is an extremely small minority of (35%?)players that hated the ending sent cup cakes,and of them a handful, probably in the single digits sent a death threat and seriously considered legal action.

cupcakes= It looked like to me that the cupcakes were to show it was not a minority of people that were upset as was claimed my games media. And by sending something they were putting their money where their mouth is and making a statement. It's in proportion to the situation- in some instances you just sign a letter, sometimes you go on a march, this situation called for cupcakes.

Death threats = This seems in proportion to the number of crazy people that say stupid things in society as a whole.

Legal action = This was not because the game was disappointing for some. It was due to false advertising claims. Someone claiming false advertising in any industry is never held up to 'omg another fan boy standard'. This isn't much different.

Demanding a refund because of the last 40 minutes = you mean the ending that explains plot? The entire reason behind everything happening ..... something that effects not only the 30hour game but the previous games? I personally think that you can't ask for a refund unless the whole thing is unenjoyable from start to end. But the ending does affect the entire product.

FYI I didn't send cupcakes, I just discussed the indoc theory a bit...and as I found major plotholes, inconsistencies and contrivances, I realised the story I invested a lot of my time in was being made up as it went along, and done so very poorly. Kind of like the last 3 seasons of Lost. As a result I no longer equate Bioware with high quality story telling so won't invest in their next story unless their marketing brainwashes me again.

That's a rational reaction in my books.

It's been over a year man. Just let it go.

OT: The DMC hate was my first real exposure to flat-out stupid nerd rage. Especially now, after the game has been released to mostly positive reviews, there are people who refuse to acknowledge it as a Devil May Cry game. Their loss.

Also, the Wind Waker anti-cel crowd. I was young enough when it came out to not care. All I saw was a new Zelda with pretty islands. I never realized how much people resisted it when it was first announced.

I guess people who boycott games because of aesthetic changes really need to untwist their panties and get some fresh air, is what I'm saying.

Any Final Fantasy by a wide margin. Fanboys will ***** about everything, purely because it's not exactly like their favourite FF.

Makes me ashamed to even like the games.

I feel you, bro. I feel you soooooo hard.

 

[DkLnBr]

Yes, read the responses to BF or CoD gun tweaks.

*we've lowered the rate of fire on the Famas by 0.1 sec and adjusted the x-axis recoil by + 0.2*

Followed by 500 posts of completely bi polar arguments about either "you've nerfed the gun to hell it's unusable now!" or "lol the gun was OP now nobody will use it. Noobz"

This one (was going to post it, glad I read your post first)
By the bitching about it you'd think they'd made the gun fire peace and happiness instead of bullets. Didn't that change get some people to give out death threats?

 

[Varrdy]

I recently discovered a lot of hate in the GTA forums - not because of anything the game did but because some people realised that the car-physics had gotten a whole lot worse than the already shonky physics of GTA IV. Blimey I've not seen that much hate since I last watched Fox News! While most of those claiming the car handling was arse (again!) offered up perfectly valid reasons for their stance, the responses from the fanboys were pretty vitriolic! Up to that point I was thinking of joining the forums but that really put me off!

 

[Product Placement]

Pursuing legal action because you thought the ending was a breach of contract? ...I'm speechless.

Firstly, you're thinking about the FTC complaint, that was sent on the grounds of false advertisement. Seeing as consumers were promised a meaningful ending, where your choices mattered and over dozen, radically different endings were available, I can definitely see why people would want to send a complaint.

Second, the fact that someone sent a formal complaint to the FTC, which is probably the most civil reaction out of all the things on your list, is what renders you speechless and makes you hold as the ultimate and worst thing of the bunch but not the death threats, is what makes me speechless.