When game hate becomes laughable.

[tippy2k2]

So again, you're actually willing to place a FTC complaint as a more heinous act then deaththreats but riddle me this: Which sounds like a more clearheaded action? Someone who's so pissed off about a product that he's willing to go through the paperwork necessary to file a proper complaint or the one who writes an email to the director, threatening to shoot him and his kids?

From all the sources I read, they were treating the FTC complaint AS a lawsuit. It sounds like that is incorrect based on what you're telling me...

Still a silly over-reaction to me but I do agree about the death threat thingy after hearing your reasoning and I will adjust my original post accordingly.

 

[Product Placement]

From all the sources I read, they were treating the FTC complaint AS a lawsuit. It sounds like that is incorrect based on what you're telling me...

Well... it's definitely not a lawsuit but the ramifications are pretty much the same. If the FTC were to deem that the complaint is legitimate, they have all the legal oomph that they require to make sure that the company will repent for their crimes. For one, it's a federal department, meaning that what they say trumps state laws, the same way that the FBI trumps the local state police. Now, I could write a long essay about their history but I think I'll allow this handy 3 minute youtube video to explain it for me, instead.


Normally, the first thing that the FTC does is to contact the company, have them cease the illegal activity and then negotiate a proper penance. The FTC normally tries to get the company to cooperate and they usually will, but only if the company refuses will this become a Federal lawsuit, where the FTC acts as the prosecution.

P.S. Since when have you heard of the media not sensationalizing their newsbit.

 

[Saltyk]

Most people aren't very good at criticism.
They can tell they don't like (or love) something but can't analyse why that is, and then identify some superficial thing that bothers them and blame it.

Like with Jar-Jar in SW-prequels, or the furry/human romance in Sonic 2006.
Yeah, the latter thing was stupid and badly written, but saying that's why the game sucks is overexaggerating.
It's just easy thing to ridicule.
(It's obviously not bestiality, since Sonic isn't exactly a normal animal. The problems I have with that are the art-styles not fitting together, there being no reason for it, and the writing being terrible.)

I was pretty sure Sonic '06 was just plain broken and nigh unplayable. Thus, making it bad. The rest was just icing on the shit cake. Honestly, I haven't played it, but I have seen videos, like GameGrumps. And early one it was bad, but I think the later levels actually got worse. Somehow.

 

[Ironbat92]

I'm going with CoD hatred. It's both annoying and quite Humorous.
Metacritic user scores are some of the funniest "reviews" I've seen so far.

 

[Soundwave]

What about smugness? They're like the burnt out ashes of hate. I can't even count all the "rolleyes ____" or "You made the mistake of playing/trusting _____". It's not as funny as regular ol' hate, sure. But I can't help but think it's toxic and unnecessary and worth of scorn in and of itself.

That being said, people who were mad at resident evil 6 "for not being scary, or survival horror" would be my contribution. Only because resident evil stopped being survival horror at 4, and scary as of like, ever, really. Surely 6 being the way it was was not a surprise to anyone.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Bayonetta 2 hate was pretty damn laughable. If the choice is either no Bayonetta 2 or Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U I know which one I'll pick.

I loved this!

Fans: "We want more Bayonetta, We want more Bayonetta..."
Platinum Games: "Coming soon...Bayonetta 2..."
Fans: "WOOOOOOOOOOO YAY RAUCOUS CHEERING"
Platinum Games: "...Exclusively to the Wii U"
Fans: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY GOD WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN US!!"

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I've been taking more than a passing glance at the gameFAQ's forums and the place is just made out of trolls. It would be funnier if it wasn't so sad.

 

[DugMachine]

The fan outrage over GTA 5 not getting a perfect score by every reviewer in the world. No game is perfect, especially not GTA which I find to be a pretty meh series of games overall. People have different tastes in games and not everyone is such a blind fanboy to think their favorite game is perfect.

 

[KazeAizen]

Bayonetta 2 hate was pretty damn laughable. If the choice is either no Bayonetta 2 or Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U I know which one I'll pick.

And I remember seeing several going for the option where it doesn't exist. I laugh even harder though knowing that if it did go to Sony and Microsoft it would still be on their new console and they'd still have to get a new one to play it. A more expensive one at that. Say what you will about Nintendo but managing to stay the most economical console on the market for two generations is good for them.

 

[bug_of_war]

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Just a quick thing, depending on how you played the ending of ME3 actually did make a lot of sense. Just my 2 cents, take it how you will.

OT: Ummm...I'm a go with: Dragon Age 2, wasn't a bad game, in fact it was quite fun. Sure the re use of dungeon layouts was lazy, but they did it in Mass Effect 1 and that was generally well received. The story wasn't all that bad either, and the characters were mostly pretty fine, though all of them wanting to bang Hawke regardless of Gender seemed a little odd. So yeah, all things considered while you don't have to like it, sending death threats to developers and writers is just fucking wanky.

Also, honourable (<---Fuck you spell check that is how it's spelt) mention to the extremist fans of Valve and David Cage.

 

[SKBPinkie]

Honestly, I played ME3 once all of the DLC came out, and I gotta say - it was fantastic. Not as great as ME2, but still fantastic.

I honestly don't get what problems people had with it. In my ending, everyone lived (Shepard included), and with the exception of losing the Mass Relays, everything else was pretty much A-okay.

 

[Something Amyss]

When there's no justifiable reason for it.

Which makes a lot of it laughable, TBH.

I disagree when people say "death threats" or the like. There really isn't anything funny about "I'm going to kill you for making this game!"

Pursuing (potential) legal action because you thought the ending was a breach of contract false advertising [footnote]Changed since a number of people noted that a FTC thingy is NOT a lawsuit as I formerly thought based on what I read. Still silly to me but I have corrected the post to have the accurate info[/footnote]? Come on guys, this is getting silly.

Honestly, I think this is a more practical option than the whining and moaning. Companies should be held responsible for claims they make. A couple decades ago, this wouldn't have been considered so extreme. This is why we get half-assed games, people. We became shitty consumers.

All you have to do is go over to GameFAQs for stupidity. At least on the PS3 board FPSs are referred to as PAAGGs (play as a gun game) and games like The Last of Us are called Interactive Movies.

You're not playing as a gun?

The ME3 controversy went so far down the rabbit hole, it culminated in the introduction of the misuse of the phrase "entitlement" into internet culture; often reducing the meaning of the word to ridiculous strawman argumentation.

Err...No. It was already introduced and popularised. It had been used in gaming culture and just about every other place you'd mentioned.

 

[Something Amyss]

Honestly, I played ME3 once all of the DLC came out, and I gotta say - it was fantastic. Not as great as ME2, but still fantastic.

I honestly don't get what problems people had with it. In my ending, everyone lived (Shepard included), and with the exception of losing the Mass Relays, everything else was pretty much A-okay.

So you played the revised ending and don't understand why people had a problem with the original one (which was the set of endings that received most of the animosity)?

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

All you have to do is go over to GameFAQs for stupidity. At least on the PS3 board FPSs are referred to as PAAGGs (play as a gun game) and games like The Last of Us are called Interactive Movies.

You're not playing as a gun?

And in Mirror's Edge, you play as hands.

 

[Dragonbums]

The hate for anything David Cage does differs between utterly sad and completely hilarious.

 

[SKBPinkie]

Honestly, I played ME3 once all of the DLC came out, and I gotta say - it was fantastic. Not as great as ME2, but still fantastic.

I honestly don't get what problems people had with it. In my ending, everyone lived (Shepard included), and with the exception of losing the Mass Relays, everything else was pretty much A-okay.

So you played the revised ending and don't understand why people had a problem with the original one (which was the set of endings that received most of the animosity)?

Oh man. I didn't mean to type that. Should probably sleep instead of taking 5-minute internet breaks from my homework.

I meant to say that I didn't have an issue with it as much as other people, but even without the extended endings, I don't think the game deserved a shitstorm of that degree.

 

[Quid Plura]

For me this all sums it up: "Hating a game before ever having played it".
A lot of people hate a game because it is part of a specific franchise (CoD, BF), made by a specific developer/publisher (Activision), belonging to a specific genre (FPS, JRPG). Now I have to say a lot of games just dont appeal to me, but for some people that's reason enough to start hating a game.

 

[Qvar]

For me this all sums it up: "Hating a game before ever having played it".
A lot of people hate a game because it is part of a specific franchise (CoD, BF).

You say that as if CoD games had any difference compared to eachother.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

When feminists reflexively demand the realistic portrayal of women's bodies in games that try to have as little to do with "realism" as they can get away with.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Err...No. It was already introduced and popularised. It had been used in gaming culture and just about every other place you'd mentioned.

I saw it in a couple of places on the net over the years, but it spread like a plague after ME3.

 

[Something Amyss]

And in Mirror's Edge, you play as hands.

You call 'em fingers but you never see 'em fing....

I meant to say that I didn't have an issue with it as much as other people, but even without the extended endings, I don't think the game deserved a shitstorm of that degree.

"Everybody lives" doesn't really happen in the original endings. Even perfect destruction has a bit of a flaw there.