When graphics stop getting better
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Who's to say you can't make the player live a story? That's like saying, "Why bother making a story when you can put the player right into the movie?" Isn't that the argument Roger Ebert made? You're ridiculous.FabiotheTurtle said:
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OT: I personally welcome improvements in graphics. Obviously it's not everything, but anyone who knows anything about art knows that aesthetics plays a large role. There are too many games that look beautiful, but dwell in the uncanny valley with expressionless blank stares or vague smiles while they cry for the loss of their spouses. And you can't just stylize everything; realism plays a large role too. So yeah, I welcome improvement to the point at which the human eye can no longer tell the difference.
And at that point, ladies and gentlemen, you will have not only photoshop, but movieshop to worry about.
Once the graphics can no longer get any better, then we will try to make games that actually have compelling storylines again. It may just be my opinion, but it seems that the plots of games suffers greatly for the time and effort needed to produce the HD graphics.
Though I have moved up from my N64 and Gamecube to the Xbox 360, my favorite game remains Golden Sun (the GBA two-parter, not the DS sequel). This could simply be because it was the first game I played that blurred the line between good and evil in the antagonists but I think the plot unfolded well and was generally of a higher caliber than most current games.
There are of course exceptions to this gross generalization: Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed, and Namco's Tales of series being some specific examples I hold in high regard for both their narrative and visual quality.
Again, it's simply my opinion on the current state of gaming and I may simply be looking on older games through the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia, but I think that the plots of games have suffered to make them visually appealing (I hesitate to say stunning because hardware is till holding photo-realism back).
TL,DR version: It is my hope that once graphics reach their peak, the games industry can shift its focus back to making compelling stories, which is what truly makes or breaks a game.
Though I have moved up from my N64 and Gamecube to the Xbox 360, my favorite game remains Golden Sun (the GBA two-parter, not the DS sequel). This could simply be because it was the first game I played that blurred the line between good and evil in the antagonists but I think the plot unfolded well and was generally of a higher caliber than most current games.
There are of course exceptions to this gross generalization: Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed, and Namco's Tales of series being some specific examples I hold in high regard for both their narrative and visual quality.
Again, it's simply my opinion on the current state of gaming and I may simply be looking on older games through the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia, but I think that the plots of games have suffered to make them visually appealing (I hesitate to say stunning because hardware is till holding photo-realism back).
TL,DR version: It is my hope that once graphics reach their peak, the games industry can shift its focus back to making compelling stories, which is what truly makes or breaks a game.
I, personally, will celebrate the day.
Games today worry too much about being better graphically, while not nearly enough about being better gameplay wise. It would also be nice to not have to buy a brand new 350$ graphics card every time a new game comes out.
Games today worry too much about being better graphically, while not nearly enough about being better gameplay wise. It would also be nice to not have to buy a brand new 350$ graphics card every time a new game comes out.
Coders get different jobs.
More of the game budget is shifted towards the design and QAT departments.
More of the game budget is shifted towards the design and QAT departments.
Don't forget that better graphics are also more expensive graphics. Only because your graphic card can carry the load doesn't mean that the dev will always have the money to pay off 400 strong design team. We need more inteligent tools to do it more efficiently. Besides there's always a big market for totally nonrealistic, cartoonish or syntethic looking games. It will be supercool though with them VR contact lenses or spinal cord sockets 
I wouldn't really argue with the "we're already there" train of thought, as we seem to already have very little to gain from graphical advances, though that's probably due more to the artificially long life of the current console generation than anything. I will say, though, that the call of duty franchise was never especially pretty, sure when CoD2 first came out, and the xbox 360 was young and it was relatively higher, however compared to games like crysis and farcry 2, the sequels have been graphically mediocre. The call of duty franchise, though a staple of poor social philosophy, isn't overly concerned with superficial graphics at all. There was plenty of scope for them to piss money away on a new engine with destructible environments and such, but they never did.omicron1 said:
That's not what I believe. Every game needs a decent story. Eg. Halo to an extent, Zelda: Majoras Mask, Banjo Kazooie was iffy, a lot of horror games focus on story. No I'm saying is that what the fatcats will think.TiefBlau said:
"Say, Gary, wouldn't it be quicker if we just put the player in the story rather than revolve it around something?"
"Why sir, that's true. Where are we going with this?"
"I have an idea. Notify the designers."
I don't follow...Sleekgiant said:
OT: Um... well it certainly is optimistic of you to think this will happen in 14 years/ever, but anyway I don't think they will ever stop striving for better graphics in some way. So not until everything is built down to the atomic level will we not stop... aka never.
