When it stops being a coincidence

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MASTACHIEFPWN

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Alright, so two days ago my mother died. This has easily been the hardest part of my life, let alone having to think about the fact how I have to survive these next two years with a family I don't trust.
Something struck me, though, something that just keep coming up.
I don't believe in destiny or anything like that, I don't really believe that everything happens for a reason, but the other day... I'm just not sure what to think.

For a while now, I've really wanted to read the book Nineteen Eighty-Four, so that day my dad took me to the library, Ironically built in 1984. So I rented the book, and we went back to our house. (We were gone about 15 minutes). When we returned, my brother and sister told us they thought my mom had a stroke, my dad called 911 (This wasn't the first time she had had a stroke), and about an hour later my dad called us and told us to come to the hospital. When we got there, they wouldn't let us see my mother until she was pretty much gone. I told my dad what I found Ironic about the book was a quote I had heard so many times from it.

"Sometimes", she said, "they threaten you with something ? something you can't stand up to, can't even think about. And then you say, 'Don't do it to me, do it to somebody else, do it to so-and-so.' And perhaps you might pretend, afterwards, that it was only a trick and that you just said it to make them stop and didn't really mean it. But that isn't true. At the time when it happens you do mean it. You think there's no other way of saving yourself and you're quite ready to save yourself that way. You want it to happen to the other person. You don't give a damn what they suffer. All you care about is yourself."
How appropriately this quote fit was beyond me. I'd be so ready to pass whatever happened to someone else without thinking anything about it, I wouldn't give a shit about what the person suffered, what their family suffered, All I wanted was my mom to be okay.

The most Ironic thing was this. My brother told me that one of the questions on Jepardy (My mom's favorite show, he was watching it with her) Had Nineteen Eighty-Four as it's answer.

A few of my favorite bands write lyrics inspired by the novel, too.

It's not a coincidence anymore. I just can't take anything more out of this.

So forum, what do you take out of this, and do you have any experances like this, where something just keeps coming up, and has stuck with you?
I expected this book to mean nothing.
 

madwarper

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I take that you used the word 'irony' 4 times in your post (capitalized each time, for some reason), and ... Well, Bender?
Other than that, condolences for your loss...
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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madwarper said:
I take that you used the word 'irony' 4 times in your post (capitalized each time, for some reason), and ... Well, Bender?
Other than that, condolences for your loss...
Haha.
Sorry, that's mainly for loss of words, My mind isn't too concerned to find the correct word for something you never expect happening, I've got a lot on it, and diction doesn't seem too important at this point.
 

Luca72

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I think what you're talking about is "synchronicity", where some piece of information or subject or what have you seems to pop up in a bunch of different instances in your life all at once. Sort of like a meme occurring. I struggle with the idea of it because I don't like subscribing to things that sound metaphysical and can't be explained or proven, but that happens a LOT in my life, to the point that I've started taking note when it occurs. I've asked my friends about it and they say it seems to happen quite a bit to them as well. It's interesting stuff though, and worth looking into.
Beyond that, I'm very sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what that must be like.
 

Hoplon

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It never stops being a coincidence. We are hampered by having very strong patten matching abilities to the extent that we see a patten even when there isn't one.
 

HardkorSB

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
It's not a coincidence anymore.
How do you know that?
People say that all the time: "It couldn't have been a coincidence":
- you see the same random person 3 times in 1 day - it can't be just a coincidence
- you imagine a car crash and then see a car crash on TV - that's no coincidence
- you see the same number several times - not a coincidence either

and now:

- I killed a goat and crops started to grow - definitely not a coincidence
- a black cat crossed my road and I got fired - must be a connection there

The human brain is always subconsciously looking for patterns. That's how we learn about stuff, we see patterns in life and when a similar situation happens, we associate it with that particular pattern. If it pops up many times, with similar results, we just assume that it's the way things are (or we just recreate the situation ourselves, just to prove/disprove our assumptions) The next time something like that happens, we have a ready response for it.

Another thing is that people don't even think about what a coincidence is. They don't check the probability of something happening, whether it has any meaning aside from that it's there and they see it, is there any other explanation than "it's a sign from... something and it means... something".

If it helps you then sure, you can believe that it was not a coincidence. All I'm saying is that even in bad times, you need to stay logical and think before you come to any conclusions.