Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?

[asiepshtain]

Uh yeah, it's not based off that as much as you think. The best of your understanding seems to be "Research is for pussies, and whatever I believe must be right". If you had taken the time to do even an iota of research you would have found out that not only is Paul Dini (responsible for a little thing you might remember as "Batman: The Animated Series" which had voice talents such as Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill...well I've made my point) writing the story for this, but in fact it has little to do with "A Serious House on Serious Earth". Yes, Arkham Asylum gets taken over, but Batman was already there instead of the "I'll kill everyone if he doesn't show up" part. And it's not like "Arkham is taken over by criminals" wasn't used before, in fact it was used in a Batman: TAS episode where Batman is put on trial by his rogues gallery after they seize Arkham.

So yes, maybe Paul Dini borrowed some elements when he was writing the story, but it's not like he's taking the whole thing word for word and ripping it off. In fact, when he was brought in to write the story, all the dev team had was the idea that Arkham would be a cool setting for a Batman game.

Had you played the demo, which I doubt you have because you said you haven't seen it yet, you'd have probably spotted the differences pretty damn quickly. But you didn't, so instead you decided to go on your wangsty power trip about how video games are bastardizing comics.

A. You're right, this was knee-jerk reaction on my part. But then again it's called fucking "Batman:Arkham Asylum" and it's about arkham asylum being taken over by the inmates, at that point the red mist desceneded and I kind of lost it.

B. Paul Dini is great.

C. I didn't say "video games are bastardizing comics". I said this game is bastardizing this specific comic, which is such a wonderfull comic it makes me want to puke.

D. It still does.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

This makes want to puke, curse then puke again.

Arkham asylum was and is a complex psychological and symbolic masterpiece. One of the all time best comics in my opinion. To see it turned into this stupid fucking game, with "BAT-VISION" and "BAT-ARANG" and fucking exploding gel makes we want to stop being a gamer. JESUS.

Do yourselves a favor and go read the comic, it's a masterpiece.

JESUS!

sorry you should really go READ some batman comics and the more recent ones instead of ones set when he first put on the cowl. he's had all those toys for a very long time.

as for the graphic novel and the game, they only share the same name and that's it. it's a totally different plot, play the demo and find out what the plot is about

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Uh yeah, it's not based off that as much as you think. The best of your understanding seems to be "Research is for pussies, and whatever I believe must be right". If you had taken the time to do even an iota of research you would have found out that not only is Paul Dini (responsible for a little thing you might remember as "Batman: The Animated Series" which had voice talents such as Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill...well I've made my point) writing the story for this, but in fact it has little to do with "A Serious House on Serious Earth". Yes, Arkham Asylum gets taken over, but Batman was already there instead of the "I'll kill everyone if he doesn't show up" part. And it's not like "Arkham is taken over by criminals" wasn't used before, in fact it was used in a Batman: TAS episode where Batman is put on trial by his rogues gallery after they seize Arkham.

So yes, maybe Paul Dini borrowed some elements when he was writing the story, but it's not like he's taking the whole thing word for word and ripping it off. In fact, when he was brought in to write the story, all the dev team had was the idea that Arkham would be a cool setting for a Batman game.

Had you played the demo, which I doubt you have because you said you haven't seen it yet, you'd have probably spotted the differences pretty damn quickly. But you didn't, so instead you decided to go on your wangsty power trip about how video games are bastardizing comics.

A. You're right, this was knee-jerk reaction on my part. But then again it's called fucking "Batman:Arkham Asylum" and it's about arkham asylum being taken over by the inmates, at that point the red mist desceneded and I kind of lost it.

B. Paul Dini is great.

C. I didn't say "video games are bastardizing comics". I said this game is bastardizing this specific comic, which is such a wonderfull comic it makes me want to puke.

D. It still does.

I'm impressed, it takes a real man/woman (of genius!) to admit they were wrong. However, this game REALLY isn't an interpretation of A Serious House on Serious Earth, nor was Serious House the first comic about Arkham (I THINK Arkham Asylum: A living Hell was). There was also the comic where Batman pretended to be insane to get admitted as an inmate to bust Zsasz. Frankly, A Serious House on Serious Earth was an arthouse comic and though I admit I have never read it the Wiki summary doesn't do it alot of justice to me. It sounds more like a HEY I WROTE AN ARTSY BATMAN COMIC!, comic. Seriously, Comics are and can be a very mature medium but talking about symbolizing the mother son, sacred geometry, and a sexually frozen Batman... Try to climb out of your own ass, Morrison.

Anyway, two totally different beasts. Fans like that who whine about nice things are why we can't have a good live action batman series, and instead get subjected to Smallville.

PS: Batman doesn't kill, Morrison.

 

[Utarefson]

This looks like Dark Sector meets Stealth+awesome gadgets+awesome license

 

[asiepshtain]

This makes want to puke, curse then puke again.

Arkham asylum was and is a complex psychological and symbolic masterpiece. One of the all time best comics in my opinion. To see it turned into this stupid fucking game, with "BAT-VISION" and "BAT-ARANG" and fucking exploding gel makes we want to stop being a gamer. JESUS.

Do yourselves a favor and go read the comic, it's a masterpiece.

JESUS!

sorry you should really go READ some batman comics and the more recent ones instead of ones set when he first put on the cowl. he's had all those toys for a very long time.

as for the graphic novel and the game, they only share the same name and that's it. it's a totally different plot, play the demo and find out what the plot is about

I know he does, I've read more then one batman comic.

They share the name, the venue, and some major plot elements, thats enough a likness to me. And as such, turning it into an action game is horrible in my eyes.

 

[asiepshtain]

Uh yeah, it's not based off that as much as you think. The best of your understanding seems to be "Research is for pussies, and whatever I believe must be right". If you had taken the time to do even an iota of research you would have found out that not only is Paul Dini (responsible for a little thing you might remember as "Batman: The Animated Series" which had voice talents such as Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill...well I've made my point) writing the story for this, but in fact it has little to do with "A Serious House on Serious Earth". Yes, Arkham Asylum gets taken over, but Batman was already there instead of the "I'll kill everyone if he doesn't show up" part. And it's not like "Arkham is taken over by criminals" wasn't used before, in fact it was used in a Batman: TAS episode where Batman is put on trial by his rogues gallery after they seize Arkham.

So yes, maybe Paul Dini borrowed some elements when he was writing the story, but it's not like he's taking the whole thing word for word and ripping it off. In fact, when he was brought in to write the story, all the dev team had was the idea that Arkham would be a cool setting for a Batman game.

Had you played the demo, which I doubt you have because you said you haven't seen it yet, you'd have probably spotted the differences pretty damn quickly. But you didn't, so instead you decided to go on your wangsty power trip about how video games are bastardizing comics.

A. You're right, this was knee-jerk reaction on my part. But then again it's called fucking "Batman:Arkham Asylum" and it's about arkham asylum being taken over by the inmates, at that point the red mist desceneded and I kind of lost it.

B. Paul Dini is great.

C. I didn't say "video games are bastardizing comics". I said this game is bastardizing this specific comic, which is such a wonderfull comic it makes me want to puke.

D. It still does.

I'm impressed, it takes a real man/woman (of genius!) to admit they were wrong. However, this game REALLY isn't an interpretation of A Serious House on Serious Earth, nor was Serious House the first comic about Arkham (I THINK Arkham Asylum: A living Hell was). There was also the comic where Batman pretended to be insane to get admitted as an inmate to bust Zsasz. Frankly, A Serious House on Serious Earth was an arthouse comic and though I admit I have never read it the Wiki summary doesn't do it alot of justice to me. It sounds more like a HEY I WROTE AN ARTSY BATMAN COMIC!, comic. Seriously, Comics are and can be a very mature medium but talking about symbolizing the mother son, sacred geometry, and a sexually frozen Batman... Try to climb out of your own ass, Morrison.

Anyway, two totally different beasts. Fans like that who whine about nice things are why we can't have a good live action batman series, and instead get subjected to Smallville.

PS: Batman doesn't kill, Morrison.

Hi,
I really suggest you give it a try, I seriously think it's an amazing work. Both story wise and artwork, the illustrations by Dave McKean are outstanding, with a few moments of genuine genius.

I'm gonna lay off this subject now as it truly was just a anger-flash becuse I saw it as them defiling a great work, and I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers ( not this time ). Thanks for the info.

 

[scotth266]

To all the people arguing over whether this game violates the particular comic that it might be borrowing from, I have but two words: Different take. Whenever you get a new crew of people to do a story about a popular character, you'll find that their perceptions of the art, thematics, and morals of the universe change significantly. Example: The Amazing Spider-Man vs. Ultimate Spider-Man. Two different comics, two different art styles, two different themes, motifs, etc. Only the basics tend to stay the same.

Anyway, I'm pleased with this look at Batman's gadgets. I'm really looking forward to this...

 

[Magnatek]

Um...shouldn't the term be "Grapple Gun", not "Grapnel Gun"? Other than that, the gadgets look great.

 

[Jsnoopy]

Holy crap that old batman clip was funny. Adam West (and Hooch) is crazy!

 

[Swaki]

cant wait for scriblenauts, looks like thats the closest we will ever get to an adam west batman utility belt in a game, but those few items seems okay too i guess.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

I know he does, I've read more then one batman comic.

They share the name, the venue, and some major plot elements, thats enough a likness to me. And as such, turning it into an action game is horrible in my eyes.

as was mentioned, Arkham has been the main focus of MANY Batman comics and other media. oh and the game is called Batman: Arkham Asylum and the comic is called Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, which means the only parts of the two titles that are similar are the Arkham Asylum part, meaning they are two totally different things

as for the plot, sorry no it doesn't share ANYTHING with the plot of the grahpic novel except in the most general sense of the Joker took over Arkham. it has nothing to do with the history of the Asylum nor does the Joker take the staff hostage

you're just trying to put down one of the only good Batman games that has ever come out and for rather stupid reasons

 

[Soxafloppin]

Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?

One thing's for sure, we've come a long way since 'Shark Repellent Bat Spray' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk].


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And the Bat Ladder... where does batman get these useful gadget?.

From Ikea.

Who was that big mutant guy. He looked like Mr Hyde from the leage of extraordinary gentlemen.

 

[oliveira8]

Um...shouldn't the term be "Grapple Gun", not "Grapnel Gun"? Other than that, the gadgets look great.

No it's actually a tool that Batman uses and Grapnel is the correct name. The difference is that the Grapnel Gun can shoot multiple grapples and a grappel gun only one.

 

[The Great JT]

I want to play this. Right now.

I heard that if we sacrifice someone to the volcano god, we will all get Batman: Arkham Asylum. Anyone want to step up?

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

My big question is: will the shark replent be in it?

 

[DrunkWithPower]

Where Does He Get Those Wonderful Toys?

One thing's for sure, we've come a long way since 'Shark Repellent Bat Spray' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk].


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And the Bat Ladder... where does batman get these useful gadget?.

From Ikea.

Who was that big mutant guy. He looked like Mr Hyde from the leage of extraordinary gentlemen.

Supposedly, he is a random clown thug with venom injected.

 

[DrunkWithPower]

My big question is: will the shark replent be in it?

probably nooooooo.

 

[hansari]

turning it into an action game is horrible in my eyes.

I asked my friend, who has read a ridiculous amount of Batman lore, and he says that the game doesn't seem to draw much from the comic aside from the fact that it takes place in Arkham Asylum.

In fact, I'm pretty sure without the comic, Hollywood would have come up with this kind of game anyway....

This is the first time a Batman game has ever been done RIGHT so stop being a tool.

You know the more I look at the gameplay footage [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOqND_TTxH4], the more I realize its aiming to be a cheap Hollywood spinoff game like Wanted/Watchmen/Wolverine (hey, all start with "W"!)...

The graphics are nice, but the gameplay seems to lack a bit. I'm a Splinter Cell fan, so seeing Batman at [1:40] into the video silently landing near steel barrels with his legs stretched-out is a bit of a let down.

The fighting also seems very Assassins Creed, but taken one step further in that they tell you when to counter now

 

[Simriel]

turning it into an action game is horrible in my eyes.

I asked my friend, who has read a ridiculous amount of Batman lore, and he says that the game doesn't seem to draw much from the comic aside from the fact that it takes place in Arkham Asylum.

In fact, I'm pretty sure without the comic, Hollywood would have come up with this kind of game anyway....

This is the first time a Batman game has ever been done RIGHT so stop being a tool.

You know the more I look at the gameplay footage [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOqND_TTxH4], the more I realize its aiming to be a cheap Hollywood spinoff game like Wanted/Watchmen/Wolverine (hey, all start with "W"!)...

The graphics are nice, but the gameplay seems to lack a bit. I'm a Splinter Cell fan, so seeing Batman at [1:40] into the video silently landing near steel barrels with his legs stretched-out is a bit of a let down.

The fighting also seems very Assassins Creed, but taken one step further in that they tell you when to counter now

Go play the Demo then judge. Almost everything you can do in it is taken straight from the comics, right down to the combat style.