Where is the fun in Borderlands?

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Elfgore

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I honestly can't find any reason to get into the game. I played once and was turned off by the bullet shield enemies and the same looking guns with slightly better stats. Where is the fun? Is it in the story because I found no story existing at all in the game. I mean can someone please tell me?!
 

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I'm pretty sure people can't explain fun in a game to you. You either find it fun or you don't. A lot of us do, you apparantly don't so play something else.
 

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I don't think the game is for you then if you're not having fun.

For me, and others as well, it's about finding loot and better guns in said loot, the funny dialog and the writing. The story in the first one was not that great, and the developers admitted as such, so I don't the game is for you.

The second one is better in the story aspect, but if you don't like the first one, then you might want to stay away from the second one, or at the very least borrow/rent it if you want to give it a shot.
 

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Sure the guns look the same but what I like about the first Borderlands is that it forces you to change up your arsenal. Also, I find that getting new perks makes the game more fun, as you can assemble custom builds and what not. Great dialog glues it all together.
 

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Loot, quests and shooting things in the face.
S'about it, and it's all it needs. Co-op makes things a hell of a lot more fun.

Not all games are going to be sophisticated tales of love and war, it's not the best game ever for me either without friends but it's great fun when messing about with a group.
 

Dansen

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Elfgore said:
I honestly can't find any reason to get into the game. I played once and was turned off by the bullet shield enemies and the same looking guns with slightly better stats. Where is the fun? Is it in the story because I found no story existing at all in the game. I mean can someone please tell me?!
Interesting and satirical take on well explored story genres and game genres. The first one had a lot of flaws but I still believe that The Armory of General Knox is one of the best DLCs ever made, it added a lot to the game. The biggest draw back is that the world feels barren and the lack of geographical differences can make things mundane. The second one is a lot better it addresses almost all of the flaws of the first one while adding some new things as well. Its shorter over all but the quest lines are more involved, varied and interesting. The flow of gameplay was dramatically improved as well since there is a lot less time spent hiding behind a wall, and more time running around and dodging attacks.
I could go on about how good the second one is, but I'll just finish by saying you should definitely rent it before writing it off.
 

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Swyftstar said:
I'm pretty sure people can't explain fun in a game to you. You either find it fun or you don't. A lot of us do, you apparantly don't so play something else.
Speak for yourself, this game is ingratiating with the art style but a complete borefest gameplay wise. I've never played a shooter before when I've actually thought the shooting itself is banal.
 

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Serving UpSmiles said:
Swyftstar said:
I'm pretty sure people can't explain fun in a game to you. You either find it fun or you don't. A lot of us do, you apparantly don't so play something else.
Speak for yourself, this game is ingratiating with the art style but a complete borefest gameplay wise. I've never played a shooter before when I've actually thought the shooting itself is banal.
This makes no sense. I said a lot of us do. I didn't say everybody else does. I am speaking for the bunch of us that do. You don't, so obviously I am not speaking for you. That was just a silly quote.
 

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Item based RPGs are like turn based strategies...they aren't for everyone but the ones that do like them will never give an inch. I played the first one and i thought it was one of the most boring games of it's type and yet most of the people around me loved it. I guess i've wasted too many hours farming on other games(Diablo and it's multitude of bastard offspring) to be bothered trying it again with Borderlands.

The whole concept of adding magic to a weapon is based in mythology but a gun shot to the head is straight death...why the need for incendiary acid rounds on top of that? Seems totally pointless to me and that flavours my opinion to agree with the original post.
 

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Metalhandkerchief said:
This thread always pops up. This thread is one of the repeated memes here. Guy makes passive-aggressive post about game X because it's popular and he doesn't like it (or as revenge because of previous passive-aggressive dig made by another user about a game HE liked) and everyone rushes in to defend/agree/rinse/repeat. We had these with Skyrim, Fallout 3, Diablo III etc etc. There will be one for every "huge" game. Dishonored is coming around, not even that will get off the hook. You can't explain to someone why they should be having fun if they aren't, people are different and they will like different games. And it's ok to be bitter about games you don't like being popular, but people should develop better sensors for these "rhetorical" threads where the OP doesn't really want a real opinion.
I suppose you are probably right in most cases, but there is still a chance that the OP actually wants to know why people like something.
 

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CannibalCorpses said:
Item based RPGs are like turn based strategies...they aren't for everyone but the ones that do like them will never give an inch. I played the first one and i thought it was one of the most boring games of it's type and yet most of the people around me loved it. I guess i've wasted too many hours farming on other games(Diablo and it's multitude of bastard offspring) to be bothered trying it again with Borderlands.

The whole concept of adding magic to a weapon is based in mythology but a gun shot to the head is straight death...why the need for incendiary acid rounds on top of that? Seems totally pointless to me and that flavours my opinion to agree with the original post.
-_- Its a game

Elements actually add depth to the game. For example, some enemies have armor that allows them to take reduced damage from your weapons, but if you use acid rounds you can negate the armor and deal bonus damage but I guess you can't be bothered to actually learn about the game before condemning it.
 

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Playing with my flat mates and girlfriend all together yahooing and screaming about are what make this game fun for me.
 

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Dansen said:
CannibalCorpses said:
Item based RPGs are like turn based strategies...they aren't for everyone but the ones that do like them will never give an inch. I played the first one and i thought it was one of the most boring games of it's type and yet most of the people around me loved it. I guess i've wasted too many hours farming on other games(Diablo and it's multitude of bastard offspring) to be bothered trying it again with Borderlands.

The whole concept of adding magic to a weapon is based in mythology but a gun shot to the head is straight death...why the need for incendiary acid rounds on top of that? Seems totally pointless to me and that flavours my opinion to agree with the original post.
-_- Its a game

Elements actually add depth to the game. For example, some enemies have armor that allows them to take reduced damage from your weapons, but if you use acid rounds you can negate the armor and deal bonus damage but I guess you can't be bothered to actually learn about the game before condemning it.
I didn't condemn it, i merely voiced my opinion of not liking it and gave a sniff of insight into why i might think that. It wouldn't be fair to only allow people the voice to love it without showing the other side of the coin, which has my head firmly embossed on it. So let me counter your little snipe with one of my own...if i hadn't bothered to learn this system in the 20+ other games of it's type i've played before...you know what, i'm arsed with this bullshit already...it always pans out the same ad nauseum *yawn*

Congratulations, you provoked my boredom
 

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CannibalCorpses said:
Dansen said:
CannibalCorpses said:
Item based RPGs are like turn based strategies...they aren't for everyone but the ones that do like them will never give an inch. I played the first one and i thought it was one of the most boring games of it's type and yet most of the people around me loved it. I guess i've wasted too many hours farming on other games(Diablo and it's multitude of bastard offspring) to be bothered trying it again with Borderlands.

The whole concept of adding magic to a weapon is based in mythology but a gun shot to the head is straight death...why the need for incendiary acid rounds on top of that? Seems totally pointless to me and that flavours my opinion to agree with the original post.
-_- Its a game

Elements actually add depth to the game. For example, some enemies have armor that allows them to take reduced damage from your weapons, but if you use acid rounds you can negate the armor and deal bonus damage but I guess you can't be bothered to actually learn about the game before condemning it.
I didn't condemn it, i merely voiced my opinion of not liking it and gave a sniff of insight into why i might think that. It wouldn't be fair to only allow people the voice to love it without showing the other side of the coin, which has my head firmly embossed on it. So let me counter your little snipe with one of my own...if i hadn't bothered to learn this system in the 20+ other games of it's type i've played before...you know what, i'm arsed with this bullshit already...it always pans out the same ad nauseum *yawn*

Congratulations, you provoked my boredom
So you chose to voice an uniformed opinion and when some one calls you out your response is; you can't be bothered with being informed.

Congratulations you win :)
 

CannibalCorpses

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Dansen said:
CannibalCorpses said:
Dansen said:
CannibalCorpses said:
Item based RPGs are like turn based strategies...they aren't for everyone but the ones that do like them will never give an inch. I played the first one and i thought it was one of the most boring games of it's type and yet most of the people around me loved it. I guess i've wasted too many hours farming on other games(Diablo and it's multitude of bastard offspring) to be bothered trying it again with Borderlands.

The whole concept of adding magic to a weapon is based in mythology but a gun shot to the head is straight death...why the need for incendiary acid rounds on top of that? Seems totally pointless to me and that flavours my opinion to agree with the original post.
-_- Its a game

Elements actually add depth to the game. For example, some enemies have armor that allows them to take reduced damage from your weapons, but if you use acid rounds you can negate the armor and deal bonus damage but I guess you can't be bothered to actually learn about the game before condemning it.
I didn't condemn it, i merely voiced my opinion of not liking it and gave a sniff of insight into why i might think that. It wouldn't be fair to only allow people the voice to love it without showing the other side of the coin, which has my head firmly embossed on it. So let me counter your little snipe with one of my own...if i hadn't bothered to learn this system in the 20+ other games of it's type i've played before...you know what, i'm arsed with this bullshit already...it always pans out the same ad nauseum *yawn*

Congratulations, you provoked my boredom
So you chose to voice an uniformed opinion and when some one calls you out your response is; you can't be bothered with being informed.

Congratulations you win :)
Cool, cheers...my opinion is uniformed and you called me out and i win. Gotta love those typos when sniping...you should try armour piercing rounds in future, i hear they can go through tanks irl
 

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You don't like the style, the writing, the combat, or the looting. That's fine if you don't. You can't please everyone.

But seriously, some people need to learn that "I don't like this" doesn't mean that no one could. I can't remember the last game I played where I didn't like it and couldn't imagine someone liking it. At least maybe work on explaining why you don't like something so you might actually get a decent discussion out of it.
 
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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
I don't think the game is for you then if you're not having fun.

For me, and others as well, it's about finding loot and better guns in said loot, the funny dialog and the writing. The story in the first one was not that great, and the developers admitted as such, so I don't the game is for you.

The second one is better in the story aspect, but if you don't like the first one, then you might want to stay away from the second one, or at the very least borrow/rent it if you want to give it a shot.


The weak aspects of the original were the repetitive environments, the lacklustre story and the lack of appearance variation in the weapons.

BL2 fixed all of these while at the same time improving the soundtrack (Jesper Kyd FTW) and made the guns feel a lot better to use.

Sniper rifles feel great this time around.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
I don't think the game is for you then if you're not having fun.

For me, and others as well, it's about finding loot and better guns in said loot, the funny dialog and the writing. The story in the first one was not that great, and the developers admitted as such, so I don't the game is for you.

The second one is better in the story aspect, but if you don't like the first one, then you might want to stay away from the second one, or at the very least borrow/rent it if you want to give it a shot.


The weak aspects of the original were the repetitive environments, the lacklustre story and the lack of appearance variation in the weapons.

BL2 fixed all of these while at the same time improving the soundtrack (Jesper Kyd FTW) and made the guns feel a lot better to use.

Sniper rifles feel great this time around.
Yeah, every single area, except for the final area, looked about the same and had no variety. The original game was good, but not the best thing ever. Despite it's flaws, I still enjoyed it and the characters made the game for me.

BL2 is just fantastic. The guns feel better, especially the rifles and SMGs, and the environments are really great this time around.

It's everything a sequel should be. :D
 
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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
I don't think the game is for you then if you're not having fun.

For me, and others as well, it's about finding loot and better guns in said loot, the funny dialog and the writing. The story in the first one was not that great, and the developers admitted as such, so I don't the game is for you.

The second one is better in the story aspect, but if you don't like the first one, then you might want to stay away from the second one, or at the very least borrow/rent it if you want to give it a shot.


The weak aspects of the original were the repetitive environments, the lacklustre story and the lack of appearance variation in the weapons.

BL2 fixed all of these while at the same time improving the soundtrack (Jesper Kyd FTW) and made the guns feel a lot better to use.

Sniper rifles feel great this time around.
Yeah, every single area, except for the final area, looked about the same and had no variety. The original game was good, but not the best thing ever. Despite it's flaws, I still enjoyed it and the characters made the game for me.

BL2 is just fantastic. The guns feel better, especially the rifles and SMGs, and the environments are really great this time around.

It's everything a sequel should be. :D
Also, you know, Siren Brofist :D

I like that city hubs feel more populated too, in the original, NPCs didn't really do anything, but Sanctuary has a great atmosphere.
 

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Loot. The game is about loot. It's a loot-em-up. I've played a lot of loot-em-ups and I can say unreservedly that Borderlands has the best itemisation of the lot. In a loot-em-up, that matters a lot. It's not just about what gun does the most damage. You'll often find yourself preferring a gun with better accuracy, reduced recoil or faster reload speed over one with sheer power. Sometimes you'll pick up a new weapon and you'll need to test it out just to work out if you like it or not. You can't tell by the stats alone; it's about how it feels.

But if you don't like loot games, that's cool.