While "Activision" Was cool in the 90's

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Stevedave00

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It's now the next bandwagon to be hated.
EA i at least understand. Ubisoft sure! that's the one company that makes those ultra crappy movie "themed" games that barely work. I understand those two at least.


Someone explain the "Activision" one for me please.
 

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They seem to have sunk into obscurity for me. But then again, I don't really pay attention to who makes a game anymore, I only really care what it's made for. I don't even get the hate for EA thing entirely. What have they done that makes them sellout pricks or this monstrosity people seem so eager to demonize?
 

Dragonrabbit

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Activision seems to get a kick out of kicking dead horses.*

Tony Hawk One was cool, so they thought, "Hey guys let's make the same game with slightly better graphics and new environments fifteen times!" This is known as the Activison principle, you can see this in series such as the aforementioned Tony Hawk, Call of Duty, and Guitar Hero. They are all responsible for aplenty of licensed crap shovelware games.

*Pun defiantly intended.
 

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These days with EA I just want to cheer them on from the sidelines. "Come on EA, you can make a good game, I know you can do it! Doh, not again." Ubisoft have occasionally made good games in the past.
 

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Stevedave00 said:
Ea buys everything then runs the franchises into the ground.
Hoorah, someone else believes that EA couldn't run a raffle effectively, they like to over advertise and over hype even the most mundane of games
 

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They buy good ideas, games that work once or twice and then do the same as EA, force the developers to create sequels until everybody stops buying them.
 

arc101

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Dragonrabbit said:
Activision seems to get a kick out of kicking dead horses.*

Tony Hawk One was cool, so they thought, "Hey guys let's make the same game with slightly better graphics and new environments fifteen times!"
Yes i can see your point, but tony hawk 2 was still a good game, and also... i dont approve of their mass producing of the same game under new names, but they are making millions because gullible people think it will be better, so the problem isn't activison, but the consumers themselves
 

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arc101 said:
Dragonrabbit said:
Activision seems to get a kick out of kicking dead horses.*

Tony Hawk One was cool, so they thought, "Hey guys let's make the same game with slightly better graphics and new environments fifteen times!"
Yes i can see your point, but tony hawk 2 was still a good game, and also... i dont approve of their mass producing of the same game under new names, but they are making millions because gullible people think it will be better, so the problem isn't activison, but the consumers themselves
While there is some fault with the consumers, the fact still remains the Activision is exploiting the consumer, in my opinion. However, in the long run their strategy collapses under itself Skate sells more than Tony Hawk, Halo and Gears of War sell more than Call of Duty, and Rock Band is beginning to outsell Guitar Hero.

Also, Tony Hawk 2 was fine, but after number three the series declined. Sure Underground, and even more so American Wasteland, added new depth to the gameplay. The creativity has pretty much ended.
 

arc101

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Dragonrabbit said:
arc101 said:
Dragonrabbit said:
Activision seems to get a kick out of kicking dead horses.*

Tony Hawk One was cool, so they thought, "Hey guys let's make the same game with slightly better graphics and new environments fifteen times!"
Yes i can see your point, but tony hawk 2 was still a good game, and also... i dont approve of their mass producing of the same game under new names, but they are making millions because gullible people think it will be better, so the problem isn't activison, but the consumers themselves
While there is some fault with the consumers, the fact still remains the Activision is exploiting the consumer, in my opinion. However, in the long run their strategy collapses under itself Skate sells more than Tony Hawk, Halo and Gears of War sell more than Call of Duty, and Rock Band is beginning to outsell Guitar Hero.

Also, Tony Hawk 2 was fine, but after number three the series declined. Sure Underground, and even more so American Wasteland, added new depth to the gameplay. The creativity has pretty much ended.
Yes the consumers are learning, the majority have seen that activiosn have taken to jumping on a boat after the rats have leapt off, but they are still a huge company that we all now will find another small gaming company, find a dying horse, and reinvent trying to make moeny, and that almost everyone will fall for it. Like with guitar hero, they will never realise that just making expansion packs doesn't actually improve a game and that mass producing works to make games better also.
ALso, skate 2 did suck too...
 

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Dragonrabbit said:
"Hey guys let's make the same game with slightly better graphics and new environments fifteen times!" This is known as the Activison principle, you can see this in series such as the aforementioned Tony Hawk, Call of Duty, and Guitar Hero.
This is why I hate Activision. Each new Guitar Hero game (except possibly World Tour) could quite easily have been replaced with DLC. There was no need to release a new game every year.

For me, though, what they've done to Call of Duty is the main reason I hate them. CoD1 is one of my favourite games of all time, and they've pretty much destroyed the franchise since then. There are at least eight games now, of which three are actually worth buying. As far as I'm concerned, if Infinity Ward didn't develop it, it's not CoD.
 

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Stevedave00 said:
Someone explain the "Activision" one for me please.
Okay here's an example. They wanted to release a COD game every year. That would have meant Infinity Ward would have to rush their games.

Somehow they managed to settle on having 2 dev teams, and now we have Treyarch on board, whose COD games are so bad that IW have actually split from the franchise to avoid being related to those jerks.

Oh, and then they have about a million Guitar Hero games now. I don't see how that makes them any less evil than EA. In fact, EA is trying to improve. Activision isn't.
 

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I hate Activision purely because of what they did to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines - they pushed it out the door before it was ready.

Sure, the game is still great, but you need fan made patches to even get the game to run properly. Just think of what could have been if the developers were given that bit of extra time to refine the game.

And I have no problem with Ubisoft, they make great games on the odd occasion (eg. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory).