WHITE GUY DEFENSE FORCE GO!

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JimB

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DjinnFor said:
Post a half-assed reply disparaging me and my posts, but don't even give me the decency of an argument, why don't you.
Yes, that is exactly what I intend to do; which probably sounds sarcastic, but I mean it. I don't owe you an argument, and I'm not going to give you one because you're not interested in an argument. You want a fight. I do not choose to give you one. Call that a cop-out by all means, but I'm curious to know what you think I would gain from such a conversation with you that makes it worth my time and effort.

I edited out a bunch of stuff that didn't really belong here and that I only included because of my fear of the low content posting rules. This remaining paragraph might not be enough to escape moderator wrath, but screw it; it was all beside the point, and I don't want it here.
 

JimB

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DjinnFor said:
You don't magically seize the moral high ground just by stating you no longer intend to argue with anyone, so don't delude yourself otherwise.
I did not say I don't intend to "argue with anyone." I said I don't intend to fight with you. The words mean different things. That is why I used them. Based on the anger in your tone when you defend a man who needs no defense from me because I can't threaten anything he possesses, I don't think an argument--a debate--is what you want from me. I think you want to take revenge on me for offending your sensibilities; to punish me for whatever crimes I've committed against you by calling me names. Though I do love hearing myself speak, that enjoyment does not overcome the distaste I have for your methods, and I do not see any compelling reason to give you the fight you want.
 

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I love looking at the different types of angry people in this thread.

There are the ones who are sniveling at home trying to hold back tears while letting everyone know that they won't be reading this insignificant comic that they totally didn't even care about anyway.

There are the people who deride the comic as nonsense, and then go on to basically personify everything the comic is making fun of in the first place.

There are the people crying about a straw man, in between posts that look like they are being made by actual members of the White Guy Defense Force.

Don't forget those who quickly point out how the strip is a totally obvious flamebait...yet can't help but take a bit for themselves.

One of my favorites are the people addressing the creators directly and demanding some kind of reply, assuming that of course the creators will read the forty pages of people complaining about the strip and personally respond to them, unless of course they're just too scared.

Finally you have the people just flat out ignoring the parody and actually trying to defend the habits being targeted by the comic, raving about how incredibly innocent Zimmerman was, how black people really do complain about racism too much, etc.

I consider the length of this thread a measure of success,
 

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KissingSunlight said:
I'm going to stop reading Critical Miss. These guys are only interested in self-righteous flame bait. That's great at producing clicks, not for rational conversations on serious issues.

People who claim that they don't get what's offensive about this comic. Imagine someone drawing the same exact comic, but replaced the three white men with a feminist, African-American, and a transgendered person. You can bet that you and the comics' creators will be crying, "OMG!!! BIGOTRY!!!"
Thing is those 3 white guys are already bigots.
They're the people that fight against diversity. When someone complains about representation, sexism, and/or racism, these are the people that try to shut it down because they have it worse or something. They're condescending, rude, and basically don't want anyone to have any of their pie.

Walk into a gender issue thread, especially about games, and see the people that bring up pretty much these exact arguments and you'll generally see those people that the comic is aimed at.

I'm not saying an african american, a feminist, and a trans gendered can't be bigoted, but what sense would it make? Why the heck would they be mad about a black guy talking about the lack of black people as protagonists when one would be seemingly on his side?
More over, you're picking on the victims in your swap. The people who're under-represented, so yeah, it'd get more heat. The comic isn't even picking on white men in general, but the people that defend the sea of default white males in te manner I described..

Of course those 3 white guys don't represent all of white men. I'd like to say we all know that, but apparently that'd be a lie.
Re-read the comic again. The 3 white men are Alpha, Beta, and Omega. Basically, the writers are saying all white, heterosexual men are bigots. That is prejudice. What's even more troubling is what these guys are saying. If you disagree with a minority about anything, you are a bigot.
Just like tumblr society justice warriors types. They don't really care about equality they just care about looking like it and hypocritically be horrible racist/sexist as see it ok since "whites, and men" can't be victims

Basically its this.

Take those three dudes and change there race or gender whatever. Now read the comic as "Black Guy Defense Force" or "Jewish Guy Defense Force"

Sounds horrible doesn't it?
 

Deadcyde

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*sighs* bandwagon nonsense heading in entirely the wrong direction to illicit any positive change. Good work fellas!

This is about as cutting edge social commentary as idiocracy was prophetic truth.
 

blackrave

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Deadcyde said:
*sighs* bandwagon nonsense heading in entirely the wrong direction to illicit any positive change. Good work fellas!

This is about as cutting edge social commentary as idiocracy was prophetic truth.
But at least we were not disappointed by the comments, right?