Berethond said:
xplay3r said:
Berethond said:
CJ1145 said:
Twilightruler said:
Much better question, who do you think deserves to be more famous than they are? If they are at all.
Voltaire.
Voltaire Voltaire VOLTAIRE
MOTHER FUCKING VOLTAIRE.
He is a musical GENIUS, and nobody acknowledges that because his music appeals to a somewhat obscure group. That doesn't change the fact that he has an incredible voice and is overall a very talented person.
<url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire>I agree.
Slightly more on topic: The Beatles.
I hate them so so so much. SO much.
I understand not liking thier music, everyone has diffrent tastes, but they do deserve the fame they have. The Beatles came from nothing, in a grimy dockworker town, and became one of the most recognized names, anywhere. Not only is it a honest-to-god rags to riches (well maybe not to riches, they didn't get paid much actually they got gyped out of a lot of money, so just to fame) story, they revolutionized the music industry. They were one of the first bands to write there own stuff, they constantly used newer, and more original recording techniques.
They were the spirt of an era, they represented the feeling of the youth at the time, and they changed peoples attitudes. They were the first famous people who were working class adn stayed working class, they were inventive and every single one of them had a good heart, and believed in the good in people, wich is hard to find, especaily today.
All I'm saying is it's fine if you don't like they're music, but don't disrespect what they did for the entire music industry, and what they did/do for people.
I don't care where they were from.
No, no they weren't. Revolutionized? Yeah.
But for the better?
Hell. No.
Before them, you had small bands who would play in bars, and knew their audience. They would connect with you on a basic, amazing level. You didn't have these four guys playing to a ton of people. There's no way to connect to that. The Beatles, they just played their stuff and leave. There's no meeting of the listeners, no connection at all.They were one of the first bands to write there own stuffThat's freaking horse spit.
I was using there origins as a point of coming from nothing to something.
They started out playing to small audiences, they played in one bar in germany for months, they played balls and county fairs, small areas all over the place, and they enjoyed having a connection witht he audiences. They stopped having connections with the audience because all the females (and a few males) in the crowd would just scream, and they had gigs all over the place, that had been booked within small time spans. They couldn't hear themselves play over the audience screaming. All they could do was try to hang onto what they knew (i.e. the guitar licks and drumming patterns) and just play, because they couldn't hear themsleves playing over the screams. Then they rushed off because they'd have to be four citys away by tomarrow. That's why half way through thier carrer they stopped playing live. They just put out records, because they couldn't improve onstage without being able to hear themselves. They couldn't meet the listeners either because anytime they even got close to a crowd they would claw, and grab whatever they could, they'd just be mauled.
Also it's not horse spit, most major bands in the very earlie sixtys and late 50's used songs that were written by others. They tried to get the beatles to play a song they didn't write, (it's called "what you do to me" and was handed to gerry and the pace makers I believe) and they tried it but it didn't feel right, after that the only time they did songs they didn't write were one they did covers of other songs in the early days.
Broady Brio said:
I really prefer if this didn't turn into a flame war.
I don't think it will, or at least I'm not trying to make it a flame war. I'm simply trying to debate his opinion on the band, and he's trying to debate mine, if it goes beyond a simple debate, I won't reply, and I'll move on, but I don't think he's trying to start a fight. I hope not at least, I'm just debating points of view with him, that's all.
Am I right Berethond? Or is this debate not as ...eh friendly as I thought it was, I mean you're not pissed, or in a bad spirit about this discussion are you? Am I correct in thinking we're just discussing the matter here?
