Who is the most powerful Superhero? - Can't seem to trump Silver Age Superman
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I don't think anyone would argue that Superman (at least Silver Age, 1 million AD is another thing entirely) is stronger than Goku but I would argue Goku isn't really a traditional superhero. Its probably a cultural thing but he exists only to fight the next big thing - which often enough is only after him specifically to prove their the strongest. He doesn't even have a costume!Mornelithe said:
I'd probably rule out non-Westerner created characters just because they're so different.
I'm sure Hitman would find a simple way to kill superman...
Ok OT: Superman is just too cheap. He is practically invincible except for that one slight weakness, and yet all the bad guys just don't take advantage of that properly. They could just throw kryptonite at him, and even some random street thug would win that way, but NO, Superman's gotta win. As to the most powerful: either Juggernaut from X-Men, or Rogue from the same. Although I think it's rather Juggernaut, since Rogue can't touch him through his armor.
Ok OT: Superman is just too cheap. He is practically invincible except for that one slight weakness, and yet all the bad guys just don't take advantage of that properly. They could just throw kryptonite at him, and even some random street thug would win that way, but NO, Superman's gotta win. As to the most powerful: either Juggernaut from X-Men, or Rogue from the same. Although I think it's rather Juggernaut, since Rogue can't touch him through his armor.
Mornelithe said:
Only issue with that is, doomsday is a kryptonian, hence why nobody else has really been able to beat superman to death. Look at darkseid he's thrown down with supes better then most anybody else in the DCU, can he kill him? no. The only people that can kill a kryptonian in just a plain old knock down drag out fight is another kryptonian. But then again, maybe the writers were just playing fast and loose with their own set forth rules in that arc because they needed people to buy their comics. I don't believe goku can win in a fight, simply because he doesn't have the right biology.
Your follow up may be unfair. Superman's primary supervillian was Lex Luthor. His super power is he has daddy issues and treats the women in his life like shit.rossatdi said:
At least Dr. M did have Ozzy, fast enough to catch a bullet and military press a 220lb grown man through a plate glass window from 10 feet away.
Superman has a weakness (non-emotional), krytonite and the red suns rays. Dr. M has no physical weaknesses. He can reconstitute himself regardless of the damage. Even then if he only chooses to take that damage.
I go with Dr. M on this. Of all superheros I can think off he would kick all their ass in the end. Doesn't mean that other like Batman or Wolerine aren't badass or cool. But Dr. M has no physical weakness. All the others can be countermanded by him and his powers. Even supeman. He walked on the surface of the Sun.
In the movie Dr. M said he would see another galaxy. Superman came from another galaxy but needed a ship to do it. Dr.M can do it as a matter of will instantly (presumably based on the movie). If he can do it instanty it means the speed of light can be exceeded by him. Even the effects of gravity don't travel faster through space than the speed of light.
Superman did travel faster than the speed of light in the 1970's movie, but he does not reconstitute. If Dr. M teleported him to a Red Giant solar system, Superman would be screwed.
Not that Dr. M would have too, Superman is biological molecularly based. Normal man may not be able to affect it. But I believe Dr. M could. In the movie he could change matter. That requires nuclear energy (2M Kelvin) to add or subtract atomic mass. Superman still follows the rules of atomic mass and binding.
As far as his time seeing thing for angst. Agreed. But, short of a tachion field, nothing affects it. Even if it did, all his other powers seemed to work fine.
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Batman with... wait for it... PREPARATION TIME.
Ok ok, I'm gunna have to join the Dr. Manhattan bandwagon since his power was pretty much ascending to Godhood.
Ok ok, I'm gunna have to join the Dr. Manhattan bandwagon since his power was pretty much ascending to Godhood.
