Who is the most powerful Superhero? - Can't seem to trump Silver Age Superman

rossatdi

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chimpzy said:
Duplicate Boy. He can copy the powers and abilities of anybody and combine them as he sees fit.

You could send everybody in this thread at him and he'd be as powerful as all of them combined.
Knowledge! He's such a minor character he doesn't have many weaknesses!
 

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Cheesebob said:
BudZer said:

The Emperor is totally a super hero.
I believe we have a winner!

Now a fight between The Emperor, Superman and Goku.

That would be freaking amazing
I have that poster on my wall. You're right he would kick everyone's ass he's a mix of Superman, and Batman.
 

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Jimmy Olsen has, at one time, defeated a Kryptonite-suffering Superman.

For more conventional Supers, perhaps Thor using the full extent of his powers?
Apparently he only uses 30% of it most of the time. And even then, it's pretty devestating.

Also (kind of a loophole here), Lex Luthor from Superman:Red Son, when he's an American scientist/hero, that manages to defeat Superman through one sentence.
 

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Geamo said:
Jimmy Olsen has, at one time, defeated a Kryptonite-suffering Superman.

For more conventional Supers, perhaps Thor using the full extent of his powers?
Apparently he only uses 30% of it most of the time. And even then, it's pretty devestating.

Also (kind of a loophole here), Lex Luthor from Superman:Red Son, when he's an American scientist/hero, that manages to defeat Superman through one sentence.
Take your point but the debate is most powerful hero but 'who could beat superman'. Red Son is awesome on toast but not cannon, the defeat was very subjective.
Island said:
superman got his ass handed to him by batman.
Care to be a bit more specific? The Dark Knight Returns has him narrowly get one over on Superman (who was massively weakened) with the help of the Green Arrow and Robin. Hush, well he just stays alive long enough to not die. Red Son: not cannon (at all) but awesome, relies on a very specific set of circumstances and he had direct help from Luthor.
 

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Draculafreak said:
I'd probably have to say Thanos or Deadpool. Deadpool can't die and Thanos once destroyed the universe and brought it back because he was bored. He could pretty much blink Superman out of existence.
Thanos is not a superhero.

Deadpool is badass but Superman is stronger and faster. Also Deadpool is aware of his existence in comic books and therefore that aware that in a Superman vs. him fight he couldn't possible win for reasons of fame, fandom, etc.
 

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Island said:
there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.
 

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rossatdi said:
Semitendon said:
Theoretically, it would be Prof. Xavier. If there was an uncoming fight between him and Superman, he could just take control of Superman's mind. This is all based on the fact that Prof. Xavier KNOWS that Superman is coming ahead of time.
Usefully the Kryptonian is well trained in a mental discipline that protects him for mind control. I know I read that somewhere I just can't source. Damn.

There is a moment in Smallville of all places where he can't have his mind read.
yea i know what your talking about, smallville is a great show.
 

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rossatdi said:
Friend asked me this morning I couldn't find a better answer. Please follow the below rules so we can't have Dark Phoenix...

Who is the most powerful super-Hero?
Has to be a hero.
Has to be in the standard cannon (no zombie Galactus).

I couldn't find anything better than Superman during the Silver Age who able to move faster than the speed of light and move planets. I know he's vulnerable to magic (but there are no magic users I know that could react faster than Superman moving at +light speed). Kryptonite again but there's the challenge of actually using.

EDIT: Disallowing Dr Manhattan on the basis he's not a hero, in any shape or form, for the vast majority of the book. He's a superhero for a few years, then goes into seclusion for the army, then leaves for Mars... He doesn't actually intervene in any particular way in the story.
Well, you can't really trump Silver Age Supes. That was the reason behind his John Byrne revamp (too bad John Byrne ruined said canon. I was all for him being less powerful, but the cold, emotionless Krypton, the "birthing matrix", and Clark creating the "S" for need of a symbol, essentially making him vain as well? No thanks. I was so grateful when Mark Waid revamped it with Birthright, a much better retelling in my eyes). After all, what challenge was there left for him in his, or any other universe? That's also why Superboy Prime became so formidable in later years, because he wasn't effected by the revamps, and still retained the silver age power levels.

It could be argued that the Hulk would stand a chance, depending on who was writing him. After all, there is no real limit to his strength. The more angry the creature becomes, the stronger he gets. After all, Superman would never kill the Hulk, knowing there was a human in there with no control, and the more they fought the more angry Hulk would get, and he might eventually catch up to Superman, should the fight continue, and Superman couldn't find a way to end it quickly.
 

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coxafloppin said:
rossatdi said:
Semitendon said:
Theoretically, it would be Prof. Xavier. If there was an uncoming fight between him and Superman, he could just take control of Superman's mind. This is all based on the fact that Prof. Xavier KNOWS that Superman is coming ahead of time.
Usefully the Kryptonian is well trained in a mental discipline that protects him for mind control. I know I read that somewhere I just can't source. Damn.

There is a moment in Smallville of all places where he can't have his mind read.
yea i know what your talking about, smallville is a great show.
Tis true. Most telepaths have trouble with Superman because his brain isn't wired the way humans' are. I don't remember reading about the mental conditioning, but that could be, and I don't think it would take much for Supes to be nearly unreadable to most human telepaths.
 

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I gotta go with Goku. Your argument that he was only looking for a stronger opponent to become stronger himself only works half the time. Freiza, Garlic Jr., the Androids, Cell, and Buu were all opponents whom Goku fought in order to save the Earth/universe. He enjoys the fighting, but that does not make it his only reason for fighting. He is a superhero.
 

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Island said:
rossatdi said:
Island said:
there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.
there is no limit to the hulks power. go to marvel character profiles if you dont believe me.
I know this. But Superman generally tends to be anti-unnecessary violence and would probably be talking Banner down during the fight as he often does with other battles.