Who is the strongest console developer now?

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MrWunderful

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I think we should wait and see the ps4 and xbox one before everyone writes them off.

With that being said, I think the wiiU is a big steamy pile of gimicky crap. So my vote goes to sony and Microsoft.
 

1UPZ

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Depends how you see next generation is...
To me ...

MS and SONY looks to be moving their gaming consoles to a new category, specifically MS, which is a multi-media/entertainment TV box/hub. A "lounge" Simiplified PC basically.

Nintendo is primarily staying put as a game console with add on features (Wii TV etc)


Nintendo knows their market and looks to be the only true gaming console next gen(current gen with Wii U).
MS has made the jump...
SONY is to be confirmed this E3.

Its fair to say Nintendo is(was) expecting 90-100 million Sales of Wii U, but probably have readjusted that to 30-40 Million.
Which is still great for them assuming 40-50% of the buyers buy Nintendo made games.
Combine that with Wii U game development approximately 25-50% of development cost compared to MS/SONY. That's an assumption based on new graphic engines, focus in graphically intensive games, online link, "WOW" factor etc.

Nintendo can emphasise their games a well as Wii U developers to focus more on gameplay and "affordable" graphics budget.

Plus you have to consider that Nintendo has placed themselves so that a big chunk of PS4 and XB1 owners will purchase a Wii U as a secondary console for niche genre or Japanese RPGs which I think Wii U will have a lot of... Looking at their exclusive developers like Monolith Soft etc who are jrpg focused.
 

Strazdas

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Define strenght. It is not clear what you are asking.
Lets assume who will sell the most consoles, because thats what will make them money in the long run.
In this case = PS4. it has the power of a new console, it still remains at least mostly DRM free and it offers features SOME Gamers want and others are allowed not to use them if they so choose, and they still focus on games.
Nintendo is, well, like buying a Xbox360 now. Sure there are some ggood games, but it is so outdated that only nostalgia keeps it running.
Xbone...... has not been met well.
 

KoudelkaMorgan

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Sony will have little or no variation in its standing, which means it might win by default.

Nintendo will continue to fall from grace, a fall that started back with N64 vs PS1 and people are only now catching on to it in great enough numbers to matter. I stuck through up until the Wii U. I got almost no use out of my Wii, and what little I did was underwhelming. Skyward Sword, Other M, and Metroid Prime 3. All disappointing compared to the best or even the middling titles in their respective series. Only solid fun I had with it was RE4 port, and Super Paper Mario. Which wasn't half the game Thousand Year Door was.

I viewed the Wii like Nintendo's version of when a singer puts out an all Cover/Holiday album totally out of character with their most popular albums. I figured that it was a novelty, and had some clear success with some portions of consumers not normally interested in their work, but they would surely move on to make more of the stuff people are looking for.

Nope. They thought to capitalize on a different gimmick and people don't seem to be buying it anymore. Every time I see a preview of a new Wii U title the selling point seems to be that every game can be played with the hand screen, with the wii remote/nunchuck, with a classic controller, or played entirely on the hand screen.

Why? Who needs that many different, and somewhat conflicting control schemes? Your selling point is that you have to look at 2 screens, that are drastically different sizes and not right near each other like on the DS, and yet you prioritize making games that can be played WITHOUT your gimmick controller? Or without your TV?

You already have a fucking handheld console, called the 3DS, which I and a surprisingly large percent of users, never turn the 3D on. Mine also likes to randomly crash while playing 3DS games. Its almost as bad as unpatched AssCreed 1 with the freezes.

The sad thing is that even now when they have taken their first financial loss in a long long time, they won't turn that ship around any time soon. They could make the best new console since the SNES appealing to all, and blowing out minds with its specs, thus attracting every 3rd party developer out there (for more than gimmicky shovelware) and put to rest the rise of the cell phone/tablet as a lead gaming device.

They could, but NOT competing, and releasing iterations of their key franchises every so often, worked out so well for them these last several years so meh. That is their approach. "meh"

Once again their handheld will see them through, though Sony's HEAVY pimping out of the Vita-PS4 remote play might rock the boat.

Microsoft seems to have caught what Gary Busey has, which is both tragic and entertaining. (I know what he has, and that it isn't contagious btw)

They will only succeed by cramming their product so far down our throats and by using the most cutthroat methods such as rampant bribery for exclusives that you will essentially be bullied and blackmailed into submitting to whatever they deem you should. You will pay for access to content, you will own nothing, and if you have a problem such as lacking an internet connection you can fuck off.

So more or less business as usual at Microsoft.
 

Tom_green_day

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I'm in such a confused state when it comes to next-gen gaming.
Microsoft... I need say nothing about.
People are so appalled by Microsoft's fuck-uppage that they forget that Sony's presentation was also pretty awful. There are no new features in the console that improve gameplay or that I'd even use, and forcing devs to use the Vita play will handicap games. Also, there are no games that really interest me yet, however I'll wait until E3 in the hope that it proves me wrong.
I've never really liked Nintendo. Their games are all re-hashes of previous franchises and are mostly all aimed at children. There are no Mass Effect or Fallout equivalents for Nintendo consoles, and the Wii was not fun at all to use to play for games.
I don't want to get a PC. I love consoles, and I find computers really unfun to play on. Also, Steam annoys me.
As you can see, none of the four options looks great. I guess I'll just wait until E3 to see the exclusives.
 

bug_of_war

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SpunkeyMonkey said:
I know they're not exclusive, but they are still the core games which MS rely on to both sell their machines and provide "core" income. That's kinda my point and it's along the lines of what you say too - that Nintendo's creativity often overules the dollar, whereas MS prioritize dollar above all else. Nintendo see franchises as things which allow for experimentation and creativity as they'll sell a fair amount on name alone, whereas MS see franchises as things to be milked for every penny and little more.

Both are obviously out to make money but Nintendo want to make games too, whereas MS just want to make money period.
I think MS are just too scared to venture from not being a huge rug. They don't want to risk loosing what they've got, so they'd rather stick to a very clear path than take a risk. I don't blame them, it's a business decision, I just don't think their recent developments have been very good and that's why they're at the bottom of the big 3 in my list.
 

CannibalCorpses

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If Sony can fix the issues they've had with the PS3 then i will certainly jump ship back to where i belong.

I doubt Nintendo will ever capitalise on the market, since their products tend to be more directed towards children rather than adults, but the price isn't too shabby either and with so many people struggling to make ends meet i can really see the cheapest console winning for at least a while.

I don't really know what to say about MicroShaft. Having played their console for far too many years i really don't think they have anything to offer to me anymore. I'm on my 5th console and that is falling apart due to poor manufacturing and cheap components and i don't think i will ever tolerate that again.