"There are", and what you said is obviously fake. People follow safety guidelines religiously, otherwise accidental firearm deaths would kill as many people as car accidents.Das Boot said:
If those games being made was the cost humanity had to pay for those video's existence, then I deem it well worth it.Arontala said:
I once read some of those studies. They were about how violent games brainwash our youth and all recent acts of violence can be attributed to violent games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto and The Black Eyes Peas Experience...More Fun To Compute said:
Which is why I was referring to the pre-F2P releases, the one that the last major release of was close to a decade ago. Those games were serious sims; FSX was made, as far as I know, to fill the gap left by the lack of a recent release. Otherwise, we seem to agree.Private Custard said:
Which is exactly what I wasn't doing. I was just mentioning that people are not reckless enough to drink and shoot, same with drinking and driving.Das Boot said:
What? The whole scientific method is now suspect because some horrible horrible people said something unpleasant about your beloved video games? Maybe we should go back to casting runes or like our politically correct friend not say anything negative about anyone because it's exactly the same as calling everyone nazis.hermes200 said:
FSX and FS2004 are surprisingly close in terms of features, although FSX is way more advanced if you take addons into account (orbx sceneries, PMDG aircraft etc...). It's just unfortunate that you need a supercomputer if you want to get even close to acceptable performance, whereas FS2004 is as smooth as silk.Owyn_Merrilin said:
Please, don't insult my intelligence citing the "scientific method" like that. The scientific method is about creating and refuting hypothesis under observable and repeatable conditions; not making broad, hyperbolic generalizations based on isolated events and media stereotypes.More Fun To Compute said:
What? Someone called out my joke about there being people who like to drink and shoot guns in America saying that surely those people don't exist without giving any evidence when I very easily found that were studies published in proper medical journals. I did not claim that owning guns and/or living in America when combined were causes for drinking alcohol or anything like that. Just that there is evidence for correlation between the three. I don't mean to insult people's intelligence but people could try to at least try to do a better job at saying that I'm wrong. I feel like no effort is being made to be actually correct me.hermes200 said:
No, it may be suprising to you but german gamers kinda enjoy to have fun, thank you very much. I don't know anyone who ever bought one of those simulations. I mean, i do know some people who downloaded them to see how bad they really are but no one who actually bought them. I think those games are pretty much marketed to casual gamers who have no real idea about how good games are supposed to be. You know, people who just want to pick up a game for 5? and don't care if it's good or bad.More Fun To Compute said:
I never said they didn't exist, I said its a broad generalization, and having found studies in internet is not really validation. Many social sciences are validated by statistics, and statistics can be easily manipulated to suit the authors point.More Fun To Compute said:
Germany is the largest market for these games although no doubt other games are more popular and they also sell in other countries.PsychedelicDiamond said:
Well somebody is buying those Deer Hunting simulators. There has to be some sort of explanation for such deviant behaviour and the buyers being drunk is one that makes sense to me because all people who get drunk occasional make bad decisions on how to spend money.hermes200 said:
Yeah... that's probably because they are made in Germany. Why? Probably because we dont have much of a game industry otherwise. Crysis was made in germany, there are a few moderately succesful RPGs (like Risen 2 that came out just recently) but otherwise our output in games pretty much consists of low-budget shovelware. Well... our ouput in media for the most part is pretty much like that. Don't even ask about german television...More Fun To Compute said:
