Why all the Splinter Cell: Conviction hate?

[ks1234]

So, I bought the Splinter Cell series on STEAM when they had it on sale recently (i think all of the games were $10 combined) anyway, I played through all of the games before but it's been years so I decided to replay the series in order. So, I played through the individual games and they were amazing, just I had remembered them. I finally made my way down to Conviction and I went into it not expecting much. I had read so many reviews about the game being horrible and how it "didn't stay true to the series", etc. etc. and I must say, I don't think they could of made the game any better. Sam is a man with nothing to live for, his daughter has been 'killed', he doesn't have Third Eschelon(sp?) to back him up anymore, and he's on a mission to find his daughters killer and royally fuck their day up. I actually thought it was a great game, the action was awesome and the story was good (not great, it was a tad confusing at times) I'm glad they went with more of an action approach to this game instead of a stealth one because a completely stealthy approach to the aforementioned fucking of someones day up just wouldn't of fit as well as the kick ass a take names approach did. I don't know, I guess you can't please everyone but I was just very pleasantly surprised by the game despite all of the bad press it received.

 

[DEAD34345]

It was a great game, but I hate it anyway. I loved every moment of playing it, but not quite as much as I loved every moment of the previous games. It's pretty much certain that any future Splinter Cell games will follow the Conviction format, so the game basically signalled the demise of one of my favourite series.

No game does stealth like the earlier Splinter Cells did, so it saddens me that there won't be any more like it.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Well I think most of the hate came from the Splinter fans. Personally, I found it to be a great game that changed the stealth formula up a little bit.

 

[ks1234]

I freakin' love it. It's a lot less trial and error compared to the earlier games in the series, and I absolutely love planning out an attack so that there's 3-4 enemies left, and then I can use the slow-mo, "everything in this room is dead" action.

That's actually something I forgot to touch on. One thing I read in a lot of the reviews is the "mark and execute" basically played the game for you but I found it to be quite an enhancement to the overall experience because there's very few things as satisfying as killing a room of targets but only leaving the "marked" ones up and then hitting the execute button and watch them drop like flies. definitely a feature I really liked.

 

[Okuu_Fusion]

I would have thought that game was alright... but I hate it so very very much... You can't skip cutscenes, or at least the level I was on... and I had to sit through the same damn 30 sec scene about 35+ times...

Plus the original version of Conviction that was planned sounded alot better before they up and changed everything...

 

[edgecult]

I think a lot of it came from the nostalgia from the older games. I didn't care for the weird stealth system in this where a shadow means "total invisibility" no matter how small and pointless the actual shadow was. (The sliver of a corner of a table cast a shadow I could hide perfectly fine in. Found that.. strange)and that mark and execute thing was rather pointless... I found more fun in saving it as a last resort crap going to die deal than a finisher sense it does really kill half the room for you with no effort on your part and it was cool for a bit but again the more you do it the less impact it has in that wow or oh snap factor.

Plus it was another game without the Chaos Theory Multiplayer... which is always just disheartening. I miss the legit spy vs merc...

 

[sgtslacker]

Probably because of the fact that it really misses what was captured in the original game, super stealth. (Yes Super Stealth) It felt more like an action shooter platformer as opposed to a stealth game with some platforming and shooting ( i mean like heavey shooting) also the ai sucked in comparison and the AI in the originals really werent that good so thats saying something.

 

[octafish]

Splinter Cell is a stealth game. Stealth is not shooting everyone in the face.

 

[Laser Priest]

Because it was rubbish. Splinter Cell is supposed to be about stealth. You could be stealthy in that game, but it seemed like you were often forced into the shitty combat that was that game.

 

[PimpHandofGod]

Because they turned Sam Fisher into Jason Bourne. The past games have been about complete stealth and Conviction basically forced you to go headlong into a firefight most of the time.

 

[cgentero]

Was I supposed to enjoy watching Splinter Cell become a ripoff of 24?

 

[Black Arrow Officer]

All this bullcrap about being able to run around and shoot everyone in the face is not true. Doing that will get you killed. You have to plan out attacks carefully, slip around the opposition in the shadows while they're distracted and eliminate enemies from the cover of darkness. Sure there's a heavier focus on combat, but there's a heavier focus on evasion and cover.

 

[SilentCom]

The main difference between Conviction and the previous Splinter Cells is that it traded off some of the stealth for action. People liked Splinter Cell for the stealth.

Personally, I liked Conviction better than the other ones but it still has it's fair share of flaws.

 

[SwiggleDyl]

I haven't played the older ones so I'm probably missing out on something there but I enjoyed the game a lot, I was stealthy for most of the game but the parts that did break out in a firefight seemed to make sense in the grand scheme of things (plot, build up, used as a last resort when all things failed). Also on the harder difficulties the times when you had to shoot everyone got hectic and really hard so sneaking was way easier.

 

[Zhukov]

Well, a lot of Splinter Cell fans hate it because it wasn't the same as the previous games. More specifically, it wasn't a remake of Chaos Theory. If you want to alienate your fans, change something. It doesn't matter what you change, it could be the main character's hairstyle, whatever, but the fans will hate it. Rarely fails.

As for why everyone else hates it... uh, do they? I don't seem to remember that.

I just got the game on the Steam sale. I'll be able to find out for myself once their servers recover and I can actually download the damn thing.

 

[2HF]

Here is the deal.

I love Splinter Cell. I hated Splinter Cell: Conviction. I thoroughly enjoyed this action game in which the main character shares a name with the main character from Splinter Cell but is a totally different character in a totally different game. That game was called "Shoot Everyone In The Face: Conviction"

Conviction as a stand alone game is quite good. Short and not worth the $60 it originally released at but well worth the bargain bin price. If you like 3rd person action games then enjoy.

The problem isn't the Conviction part. It is the Splinter Cell part. This is NOT Splinter Cell. That is why fans hated it. Fans of Splinter Cell buy Splinter Cell because they want Splinter Cell, not Gears with a stealth element.