Why are today's cartoons more lighthearted?

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undeadsuitor said:
how come when people list stuff like "cartoons used to look better than the trash we have now", they list several examples of stuff they like but leave "the cartoons running now" blank?

Are we just supposed to fill the blank in with the obvious "all new shows are Teen Titans GO" answer everything is leading to?
Because from my childhood experiance and tastes, they were better than they are now.

Let me list the shows in Cartoon Network after the last decent cartoon from the channel, Foster's Home for Imaginary Frieds (And that show has its own problems looking back in hindsight, I.E. Mean Spiritedness) and I am excluding shows like DC cartoons and Scooby Doo, and Transformers and what have you because I feel they are not truly part of "Cartoon Network" and just guest shows to a host channel.




The Life of Times of Juniper Lee, Kim Possible was better and overall the show felt generic.

Camp Lazlow, Average and Filler and Boring.

My Gym Partner's a Monkey, the same as Camp Lazlow.

Ben 10 franchise, the first 3 shows of it were great and the only decent thing to come out of CN at the time.

Squirrel Boy, Filler and Boring

Chowder, Disgusting.

The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, had something going for it, but the art was just too disgusting for me to watch it.

The Secret Saturdays, haven't seen it that much but it look interestin, didn't give it that much a chance.

And don't get me started on the Live Action Shows....ergh.

Genrator Rex, looks nice but could not get into it because honestly the main character's Superpowers is just too stupid and ridiculous even for me.

Regular Show, everyone liked this one and sure I had some laughs, but I feel it was a show too restricted as kids show.

Sym-Bionic Titan, it suffered a fate worse than Samurai Jack, it never picked up after the first season, damn shame.

The Problem Solverz, a disaster of Josef Mengele proportions.

Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, another disgusting disaster.

Uncle Grandpa, filler and boring

Over the Garden Wall, everyone makes a big deal out of this show and I have no idea.

Adventure Time, over-fuckin-rated, and its art style is bland.

Gumball, this show is visual whiplash and I can't even look at it, and I feel its all style over substance.

Steven Universe,.....Tumblr's own TV show.

Clerence, like Unlce Grandpa its filler and boring.

We Were Bears, why is this show praised so much?

And we all the know the Powerpuff Girls Reboot is an abortion of the original show.

So yeah, 1 or 2 decent shows, a fuck load of filler/boring shows, and shows that are just absolutely horrendous to watch, and shows that are just not for me.

So what the hell am I left with in Cartoon Network?
 

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Kotaro said:
I think the difference is in sentimentality. A lot of shows in the early 2000's, even the comedies, lacked any sort of pathos for the characters. A lot of the time, you were watching people suffer horrible misfortune with no real punchline aside from the misfortune itself. Ed, Edd & Eddy is a good example: the Eds aren't the best people, but you spend so much time with them, watching them fail and suffer over and over again, that by the end you just want the writers to throw them a freaking bone. It stops being funny and just becomes uncomfortable. See also: The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy.
Yeah, eventually you start feeling bad for the character. It's like Charlie Brown. His life is a never ending series of failures and disappointments. I want to see him win, just once.
 

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I was rewatching Dexter's Lab recently and holy shit, give the kid a break sometime. Not everything needs to end in ironic, abject failure.

EDIT: anyway, a lot of this is confirmation bias. I mean, stuff like rebootVoltron and Star Wars Rebels exist.

Plus, media tends to hit the opposite of the general vibe of the zeitgeist. Like, there's a reason comedies were more popular during the Great Depression.
 

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I do think Animation and Art Quality has degraded over the years.

I miss the days when cartoons looked like this:






And an honorable mention to Ultimate Spiderman, 90s Spiderman, X-Men, the rest of the DCAU, Avatar the Last Airbender and Teen Titans aswell.

Even the more cartoonier looking shows like Butch Hartmann's work, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Spongebob and Kim Possible, etc. look way better than cartoons now. With the sole exception I will give to My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.

Heck American Dad and Simpsons still looks better than new adult animated sitcoms.

We're kinda talking about quality of the writing, not the animation. Also Ultimate Spider-Man has good animation, but its pretty awful to sit through.

Simpsons should have ended a while ago, American Dad is hit or miss, Ben 10: Alien Force is really not very good, '90s Spider-Man has aged, but its still enjoyable. I love the rest. Well, except MLP. I don't watch it.
 

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I dunno man, we still got some serious themes at play in the shows that aren't largely comedy based.
Canadamus Prime said:
I don't know, I haven't really watched many current day cartoons, but I'm given to understand that some of them touch on some heavy topics.
Yeah, a lot of cartoons airing now tackle some pretty intense topics. For one example, Steven Universe, flawed as it is, has been going to some serious places since the second half of its first season. The last few episodes in particular collectively had a theme of "even after horrible things happen, life needs to go on." Adventure Time has the Ice King's backstory and his connection to Marceline. Gravity Falls got intense by the finale; I was genuinely in tears.
The recent trend of having a show start out as a lighthearted comedy but gradually introduce darker elements works really well in my opinion, because you already like the characters by the time shit hits the fan, so you care more about what happens to them.

I think the difference is in sentimentality. A lot of shows in the early 2000's, even the comedies, lacked any sort of pathos for the characters. A lot of the time, you were watching people suffer horrible misfortune with no real punchline aside from the misfortune itself. Ed, Edd & Eddy is a good example: the Eds aren't the best people, but you spend so much time with them, watching them fail and suffer over and over again, that by the end you just want the writers to throw them a freaking bone. It stops being funny and just becomes uncomfortable. See also: The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy.

Pretty agree with everything in this
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
how come when people list stuff like "cartoons used to look better than the trash we have now", they list several examples of stuff they like but leave "the cartoons running now" blank?

Are we just supposed to fill the blank in with the obvious "all new shows are Teen Titans GO" answer everything is leading to?
Because from my childhood experiance and tastes, they were better than they are now.

Let me list the shows in Cartoon Network after the last decent cartoon from the channel, Foster's Home for Imaginary Frieds (And that show has its own problems looking back in hindsight, I.E. Mean Spiritedness) and I am excluding shows like DC cartoons and Scooby Doo, and Transformers and what have you because I feel they are not truly part of "Cartoon Network" and just guest shows to a host channel.




The Life of Times of Juniper Lee, Kim Possible was better and overall the show felt generic.

Camp Lazlow, Average and Filler and Boring.

My Gym Partner's a Monkey, the same as Camp Lazlow.

Ben 10 franchise, the first 3 shows of it were great and the only decent thing to come out of CN at the time.

Squirrel Boy, Filler and Boring

Chowder, Disgusting.

The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, had something going for it, but the art was just too disgusting for me to watch it.

The Secret Saturdays, haven't seen it that much but it look interestin, didn't give it that much a chance.

And don't get me started on the Live Action Shows....ergh.

Genrator Rex, looks nice but could not get into it because honestly the main character's Superpowers is just too stupid and ridiculous even for me.

Regular Show, everyone liked this one and sure I had some laughs, but I feel it was a show too restricted as kids show.

Sym-Bionic Titan, it suffered a fate worse than Samurai Jack, it never picked up after the first season, damn shame.

The Problem Solverz, a disaster of Josef Mengele proportions.

Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, another disgusting disaster.

Uncle Grandpa, filler and boring

Over the Garden Wall, everyone makes a big deal out of this show and I have no idea.

Adventure Time, over-fuckin-rated, and its art style is bland.

Gumball, this show is visual whiplash and I can't even look at it, and I feel its all style over substance.

Steven Universe,.....Tumblr's own TV show.

Clerence, like Unlce Grandpa its filler and boring.

We Were Bears, why is this show praised so much?

And we all the know the Powerpuff Girls Reboot is an abortion of the original show.

So yeah, 1 or 2 decent shows, a fuck load of filler/boring shows, and shows that are just absolutely horrendous to watch, and shows that are just not for me.

So what the hell am I left with in Cartoon Network?

I liked Camp Lazlo
I enjoy the first Ben 10, but the whole franchise hasn't aged well since I rewatched it a few months back.
Squirrel Boy was awful
Chowder was kinda hit or miss
I hated Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack because its really not funny and the animation is just ugly to look at.
Secret Saturdays was a lot of fun
Didn't care for the live action shows



Generator Rex was alright
I loved Regular Show
Sym-Bionic Titan was amazing and still mad it got cancelled
The Problem Solverz is the equivalent of seizure inducing garbage.
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome was garbage
Uncle Grandpa was stupid
Over the Garden Wall is amazing
Adventure Time I enjoyed its earlier seasons.
Amazing World of Gumball - surprisingly I didn't like its 1st season, but I did watch its later episodes. Honestly? Its current stuff is kinda great.
I love Steven Universe and I don't even use Tumblr.
Clarence was dumb
We Bare Bears is cute fun
Powerpuff Girls reboot is really shit

Again these are just my honest thoughts
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
how come when people list stuff like "cartoons used to look better than the trash we have now", they list several examples of stuff they like but leave "the cartoons running now" blank?

Are we just supposed to fill the blank in with the obvious "all new shows are Teen Titans GO" answer everything is leading to?
Because from my childhood experiance and tastes, they were better than they are now.

Let me list the shows in Cartoon Network after the last decent cartoon from the channel, Foster's Home for Imaginary Frieds (And that show has its own problems looking back in hindsight, I.E. Mean Spiritedness) and I am excluding shows like DC cartoons and Scooby Doo, and Transformers and what have you because I feel they are not truly part of "Cartoon Network" and just guest shows to a host channel.




The Life of Times of Juniper Lee, Kim Possible was better and overall the show felt generic.

Camp Lazlow, Average and Filler and Boring.

My Gym Partner's a Monkey, the same as Camp Lazlow.

Ben 10 franchise, the first 3 shows of it were great and the only decent thing to come out of CN at the time.

Squirrel Boy, Filler and Boring

Chowder, Disgusting.

The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, had something going for it, but the art was just too disgusting for me to watch it.

The Secret Saturdays, haven't seen it that much but it look interestin, didn't give it that much a chance.

And don't get me started on the Live Action Shows....ergh.

Genrator Rex, looks nice but could not get into it because honestly the main character's Superpowers is just too stupid and ridiculous even for me.

Regular Show, everyone liked this one and sure I had some laughs, but I feel it was a show too restricted as kids show.

Sym-Bionic Titan, it suffered a fate worse than Samurai Jack, it never picked up after the first season, damn shame.

The Problem Solverz, a disaster of Josef Mengele proportions.

Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, another disgusting disaster.

Uncle Grandpa, filler and boring

Over the Garden Wall, everyone makes a big deal out of this show and I have no idea.

Adventure Time, over-fuckin-rated, and its art style is bland.

Gumball, this show is visual whiplash and I can't even look at it, and I feel its all style over substance.

Steven Universe,.....Tumblr's own TV show.

Clerence, like Unlce Grandpa its filler and boring.

We Were Bears, why is this show praised so much?

And we all the know the Powerpuff Girls Reboot is an abortion of the original show.

So yeah, 1 or 2 decent shows, a fuck load of filler/boring shows, and shows that are just absolutely horrendous to watch, and shows that are just not for me.

So what the hell am I left with in Cartoon Network?
Whats wrong with tumblr? Do you have something against porn now? Also, how is it related to Steven Universe, I don't recall seeing any porn in that show.
 

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Ignoring the amount of 'muh shows' going on here, and the level of cherry picking and needless sniping-

Steven Universe (already mentioned but screw you) deals with issues of sex and sexuality, oppression, PTSD, abusive relationships, and grief in ways that kids could understand while being entertaining to both them and adults.

Legend of Korra likewise dealt with PTSD for basically the entire fourth season, as well as questions like 'what is more important, freedom or safety?' and was all around more serious than Last Airbender, just in general.

Star Vs The Forces of Evil took a minute but has dealt with issues of gender identity, youth empowerment and the issues in generational gaps, and lately has more and more been hitting on the theme of race relations, up to and including literal segregation and apartheid.

Adventure Time has been dealing less with serious topics and more the complicated lives of the characters involved. I really couldn't do them justice by summing up anything, but just trust me when I say it DOES touch on serious topics, and even then rarely loses it's lighthearted touch.

Gravity Falls also falls into the same category as Adventure Time, I'd say, except they didn't take long to ramp up the conflicts and they ended in two seasons instead of ten like Adventure Time when it ends this year.

And of course if we're going full grimdark and not just 'serious shows' or 'serious topics', watch the new Samurai Jack. They had blood instead of just robot oil. Pretty good, even if the final episode was sadly kind of derp.

In short: Stop bitching about how 'oh this generation-'. I personally dislike most 80s cartoons but that doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with Transformers, G.I. Joe, or Thundercats, simply a matter of taste.
 

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Seems cherry picking to be honest.

I loved The Maxx and Aeon Flux as a kid, but that being said equally mature themes can be found in Adventure Time. If anything, the fact that shows like Adventure Time and so much of modern animation now can tap into a multiple of age ranges suggests a deepening complexity and relationship to consumed media.

The Maxx, whether in its original media form or its adaptation to the screen was definitely not for kids. It had incredibly dark scenes and it relied on that dark, veiled storytelling to communicate the ideaof this loss of identity and self under the crushing reality of poverty and social stigma and the battles we create for ourselves in day-to-day life.

And shows like Adventure Time can tell equally bleak, equally dark themes of varying accessibility whether young or old viewers is a sign of that evolving idea of narrative. It's not as hamfistedly dark ... which is kind of a problem I find with concepts of Grimdark garbage lore and worldbuilding that you get with things like 40K. A videogame like Papers, Please is fair more terrifying and soul crushing without (too much) blood or open violence simply because we can see it happening now ... it reminds us that as a society we're either living it as individuals, or about 1 or 2 steps away from living if we have the privilege to be without it now ...

All without high fantasy elements like daemons and space elves.

My Little Pony with a single song and reprise tells a truly heartwrenching tale of the realities of the alienation of one person's work through systems of capitalist production and what you might have to potentially sacrifice if you want to save some of your soul in the process. How it destroys not only the worker, but inspiration and artistry on its own ... and yet somehow Hasbro didn't pull the plug. All packaged in a bright, colourful, somewhat comedic and catchy fashion ... right up until you recognize what the moment is trying to imply. And that one song probably has saved you an hour interpreting Entfremdung theory by giving you a direct (if fanciful) example.

Also subliminal condition for the young'un to join with whatever incarnation of the CNT for true proletariat friendship ...

I digress ... frankly if yu rely on blood and death to tell an impactfully bleak or heroic tale of the human condition striving to see itself through its agency and the struggle for one's own self-building, you're probably not a good storyteller.

That's not to say you can't have blood and gore and death if you enjoy those themes, but that's solidly worldbuilding ... not a question as to its emotional weight or impact, or its intellectual designs.

'Adult' shouldn't be shorthand for bloody or vicious... because frankly something like the Dynasty Warriors series is lighthearted and that has you murderizing thousands of people. Sorry ... 'K.O.ing' thousands of people willy nilly with massive weapons no human could conceivably wield well. To put it bluntly ... a game like Dark Souls tells a pretty bleak story regardless of your character's agency. I would argue it doesn't tell a very good story ... in fact the only decent storied (not merely lore, not merely character vignettes, actual overbranching story) Dark Souls game was DS2...

But the story wasn't more bleak or more adult by carrying the biggest murder-death weapon in the game ... in fact some of the weapons were downright fucking ridiculous and looked ridiculous.

Same thing with something like The Picture of Dorian Gray. Infinitely a far more bleak depiction of the world simply for Dorian's (and Lord Henry's) presence, that as if their machinations, their obsessions, their wastrel lives and their pointless pursuits both vain and in hopeless salvation without recognising there is nothng of worth to them is a bleaker story of examining of many different types of personal suffering one might not even live to endure.

And honestly, you could make a PG-13 movie of that just simply by accurately portraying the book. Like one definite murder and two suicides, which you could still hold true to the book and its sentiments by not directly showing. Yet I challenge anyone to find a bleaker attitude to the human condition than that tale.

Barring Catch-22 that is ... but nothing is as good as Catch-22. Also how fucking mindnumbing it must of been given the author actually lived that madness of conflict. How he statistically shouldn't have survived WW2, statistically been killed three times over, given the number of hours in the air, the number of missions, the number of direct engagements with enemy air defenses and intercepts.

That movie you couldn't do PG-13 ... but so much of the book wore lightheartedness that was in truth incredibly bleak and soul-crushing. Like Major Major Major. How he got his name, why his father chose it, and because of that absurd humour becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy via a filing error that simply recorded and maintains both position and namesake as Maj. Major Major in the U.S. Army Air Forces. Displaying no less the same mechanical and thoughtless humour as his father to the detriment of all...


Movie is bad (well, it's actually pretty good .. just in comparison to the book which is pretty unfair a bar), but it get some of the sentiments right. And arguably you could never properly transform it into a movie in the first place.
 

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I get having biases based on the shows that were on when you grew up, but personally I prefer quality over quantity with my cartoons. I mean, look at this:

Jesus Christ, that's like 80 percent of the schedule for this week! Whatever happened to shows variety?

(And that sarcastic comment at the top is not helping...)
 

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Worgen said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
how come when people list stuff like "cartoons used to look better than the trash we have now", they list several examples of stuff they like but leave "the cartoons running now" blank?

Are we just supposed to fill the blank in with the obvious "all new shows are Teen Titans GO" answer everything is leading to?
Because from my childhood experiance and tastes, they were better than they are now.

Let me list the shows in Cartoon Network after the last decent cartoon from the channel, Foster's Home for Imaginary Frieds (And that show has its own problems looking back in hindsight, I.E. Mean Spiritedness) and I am excluding shows like DC cartoons and Scooby Doo, and Transformers and what have you because I feel they are not truly part of "Cartoon Network" and just guest shows to a host channel.




The Life of Times of Juniper Lee, Kim Possible was better and overall the show felt generic.

Camp Lazlow, Average and Filler and Boring.

My Gym Partner's a Monkey, the same as Camp Lazlow.

Ben 10 franchise, the first 3 shows of it were great and the only decent thing to come out of CN at the time.

Squirrel Boy, Filler and Boring

Chowder, Disgusting.

The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, had something going for it, but the art was just too disgusting for me to watch it.

The Secret Saturdays, haven't seen it that much but it look interestin, didn't give it that much a chance.

And don't get me started on the Live Action Shows....ergh.

Genrator Rex, looks nice but could not get into it because honestly the main character's Superpowers is just too stupid and ridiculous even for me.

Regular Show, everyone liked this one and sure I had some laughs, but I feel it was a show too restricted as kids show.

Sym-Bionic Titan, it suffered a fate worse than Samurai Jack, it never picked up after the first season, damn shame.

The Problem Solverz, a disaster of Josef Mengele proportions.

Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, another disgusting disaster.

Uncle Grandpa, filler and boring

Over the Garden Wall, everyone makes a big deal out of this show and I have no idea.

Adventure Time, over-fuckin-rated, and its art style is bland.

Gumball, this show is visual whiplash and I can't even look at it, and I feel its all style over substance.

Steven Universe,.....Tumblr's own TV show.

Clerence, like Unlce Grandpa its filler and boring.

We Were Bears, why is this show praised so much?

And we all the know the Powerpuff Girls Reboot is an abortion of the original show.

So yeah, 1 or 2 decent shows, a fuck load of filler/boring shows, and shows that are just absolutely horrendous to watch, and shows that are just not for me.

So what the hell am I left with in Cartoon Network?
Whats wrong with tumblr? Do you have something against porn now? Also, how is it related to Steven Universe, I don't recall seeing any porn in that show.
Regardless, show isn't for me. Too girly. And this is a shock because I like Powerpuff Girls. But something about Steven Universe doesn't click with me.
 

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Natemans said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I do think Animation and Art Quality has degraded over the years.

I miss the days when cartoons looked like this:






And an honorable mention to Ultimate Spiderman, 90s Spiderman, X-Men, the rest of the DCAU, Avatar the Last Airbender and Teen Titans aswell.

Even the more cartoonier looking shows like Butch Hartmann's work, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Spongebob and Kim Possible, etc. look way better than cartoons now. With the sole exception I will give to My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.

Heck American Dad and Simpsons still looks better than new adult animated sitcoms.

We're kinda talking about quality of the writing, not the animation. Also Ultimate Spider-Man has good animation, but its pretty awful to sit through.

Simpsons should have ended a while ago, American Dad is hit or miss, Ben 10: Alien Force is really not very good, '90s Spider-Man has aged, but its still enjoyable. I love the rest. Well, except MLP. I don't watch it.
What was wrong with Ben 10 Alien Force/Ultimate Alien era really? Because I'll be frank, the first original series didn't fully catch my attention that much, I watched only a few episodes here or there, Alien Force/Ultimate Alien was when I started watching it a bit more often.

But now my memory of that show is completely blank except for a handful of episodes. So how was it shit?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Natemans said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I do think Animation and Art Quality has degraded over the years.

I miss the days when cartoons looked like this:






And an honorable mention to Ultimate Spiderman, 90s Spiderman, X-Men, the rest of the DCAU, Avatar the Last Airbender and Teen Titans aswell.

Even the more cartoonier looking shows like Butch Hartmann's work, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Spongebob and Kim Possible, etc. look way better than cartoons now. With the sole exception I will give to My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.

Heck American Dad and Simpsons still looks better than new adult animated sitcoms.

We're kinda talking about quality of the writing, not the animation. Also Ultimate Spider-Man has good animation, but its pretty awful to sit through.

Simpsons should have ended a while ago, American Dad is hit or miss, Ben 10: Alien Force is really not very good, '90s Spider-Man has aged, but its still enjoyable. I love the rest. Well, except MLP. I don't watch it.
What was wrong with Ben 10 Alien Force/Ultimate Alien era really? Because I'll be frank, the first original series didn't fully catch my attention that much, I watched only a few episodes here or there, Alien Force/Ultimate Alien was when I started watching it a bit more often.

But now my memory of that show is completely blank except for a handful of episodes. So how was it shit?
Its not entirely shit. I enjoyed Ultimate Alien a bit more upon reflection than Alien Force. A lot of my problems with the era is the writing felt off at times, some of the characters were a tad bland, villains were incredibly forgettable and despite some cool designs, the stories didn't really grasp greatly imo. As much as the original series doesn't age well, I felt it was a bit better in its characters or stories.
 

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It's just change man. Happens all the time. Cartoons were very different in the 90s, the 80s, and the 70s. I was born in 85 so I grew up with 90s cartoons. They were pretty different to the 2000s.

I think part of it, these days, is that kids are more Internet and iPad savy than ever before so they spend more time on casual games and surfing than watching TV. TV shows are more redundant than they used to be for kids so less money goes into them. Less money equals fewer ideas.
 

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I don't think that the shows are "less dark". I think the main thing is that they're more subtle.

Now I don't actually go out of my way to watch kids TV shows (not because I don't enjoy them, but because I simply can't be arsed 90% of the time) but from what I've seen most kids shows start off kooky, wacky and bright-eyed before descending into more serious themes. It's kinda like how Game of Thrones started out constantly showing off nudity, sex and violence in the first few seasons before slowly taking the focus off of that and onto the story. They ease kids into it, rather than just throwing them into the deep end and repelling a good chunk of the viewing audience.

It's not like kids shows these days don't have their more serious moments either. Adventure Time has its more serious moments (Ice King's backstory) and though I haven't seen much of the show itself, I remember a scene from Steven Universe where someone gets fucking stabbed and dies. And it's Steven, the protagonist, who stabs him! That's pretty dark for a show aimed at kids; showing that violence and murder isn't something exclusive to villains.

And it's not like the 2000s were uber-serious (you are cherry-picking, I'm afraid). This is the era that gave us shows like Spongebob Squarepants, Jimmy Neutron and The Fairly Odd Parents. Every era has darker, more serious shows alongside goofy OTT hijinks.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Regardless, show isn't for me. Too girly. And this is a shock because I like Powerpuff Girls. But something about Steven Universe doesn't click with me.
If you don't mind my asking, girly in what way?
 

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The difference between a "serious" show and a "lighthearted" one is an abyss from person to person. Some people actually think My Little Pony is a "serious" show, for crying out loud, as if something titled Friendship Is Magic could possibly handle subtlety.