Why Bronies (and Pretty Much Everyone) Should Hate the Brony Documentary

[Sir Shockwave]

Oh, and as something the OP missed, they charged $12 a copy apparently. Which as I understand is overcharging for a documentary.

Which even then from what the OP has written, is the sort of propaganda I'd expect one of the "Rabid Idiot Bronies" (for lack of better words) to make.

 

[Eddie the head]

Having said that, at least the documentary produced one gem of scintillating awesomeness:

WOW that was way to self congratulatory. Way to jack off your ego. Anyway I never understood the pride people feel for liking the show, but I also don't understand pride in ones race as well.

 

[Neverhoodian]

Having said that, at least the documentary produced one gem of scintillating awesomeness:

This video pisses me off. The second half of the clip is purely self-congratulatory praise for the Brony community (going so far as to categorise themselves into their various circles), then further making an unnecessarily massive deal about "girl bronies" who invade the 'presentation' to remind us that girls can be Bronies too.

May I remind the world that MLP s a show designed for girls, watched in all of its incarnations by girls, and that we (as men) came in and made a big deal about us watching their latest iteration of the show? This is almost exactly how some men act about women playing video games - as some sort of threatening outsider, which in this case is completely hypocritical.

Sorry for the rant, but I have been angered, and only soothing cold beverages can quell my rage.

B-but it's John de Lancie...doesn't that make it awesome?

I do see your point though, particularly the segment regarding female fans. It's hypocritical that he'd resort to an outdated gender stereotype ("well when girls like little ponies, that's very much expected!") when the rest of the song is about breaking down said stereotypes. It's easily the weakest part of the song for me.

 

[ejb626]

Agreed, OP another gripe I have is refusal to acknowledge the fandom's origin on 4chan, in fact if you want to be educated about bronies don't watch this documentary. It doesn't in any way sell the fandom to people who are unfamiliar with it, one of its intended purposes, it just goes on and on about how bronies are God's gift to mankind.

So it's a giant circle jerk? I could go anywhere and get that for any fandom anywhere on the internet for free.

Exactly a lot of bronies need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize they're really nothing special, just another fandom.

 

[The Ubermensch]

The brony porn is no where NEAR the pedophile saturation of other kid shows for the simple fact the cast isn't a bunch of kids. The characters are of undefined age and could easily be college to adult age.

The worst rule 34 have to offer are the shows whose entire cast has nothing but children and/or child-like bodies. MLP gets off lightly because horse anatomy is harder to gauge age than human is. Is Twilight a child? Nope. Is any of the other main cast children? No. What about the other characters? Majority are adults with kids being shown briefly or child-specific episodes.

Pony is not the worst rule 34 there is. Not by a long shot.

>Implying that I care about the fact the porn exists

I'm just stating a fact; it exists. Providing that no one is forced to do anything against their will I don't give two shits about how you get your rocks off.

And this is the problem with bronies; they assume everyone gives a shit. This fandom is not special

uhh, its 4CHAN. Did you really go TO THE HOME OF /B/, AND ALL THAT'S WRONG WITH THE WORLD FOR SERIOUS TALK and MORAL PEOPLE?

/mlp/ is one big JOKE. A joke that you either understand or don't. People go there to post shit to disgust each other just like /b/. In fact, the entire board ARE THE PONY THEMED TROLL POSTS STRAIGHT FROM /B/ ITSELF.

I bolded all that to stress what should be incredibly obvious points. Anyone who has spent 5 minutes on the internet will understand this.

And culture saturation? All you posted was 4chan and fucking youtube quotes. Both sites chocked full of copy-pasted comments, and tough guys trying to convince people they are a secret government agent who will come and kill them in real life if they are disrespected online. Hardly culture when neither site has any.

I think I said 4chan once in regard to Mandopedo. If you don't think that people jack it to pony porn you are incredibly naive. If you think that 4Chan is just a shit posting board you are sadly mistaken; that goes on but the best threads are provocative (Though granted those threads are few and far between).

As far as morality; Its subjective and I don't consider people who use the word as justification rational.

As far as youtube quotes; no, I saw this shit a while ago. I've seen it on this forum as a matter of fact.

As far as "tough guys"


Just relax man; the fact that you had to change the font to emphasize your point tells me you're taking everything far to seriously for all the wrong reasons.

 

[The Ubermensch]

I know people jack to pony porn, technically furries have been doing that for decades now, but you are taking 4chan way to seriously and expecting too much from it. Its worse now because you are the third person to come in and take what 4chan says at face value and try to make it into some site for "serious talk."

Its not. It never was.

Are you really surprised at a site that finds pictures of corpses, and videos of people dying in gory ways which people use as masturbation material also has a pony board where anything goes? Even though the /mlp/ board is the one big light hearted joke compared to where it came from? And the only offenses the MLP board does is copy paste the phrase "I want to cum inside rainbow dash" so they can get into the pony thread simulator videos. Which means its one big race to post disgusting shit so they have a chance to have their comment read in youtube and gain some virtual fame.

You said "/mlp/ and ponychan killed my bronyism" which implied you took both seriously. That's what i am getting at here. 4chan was never meant for serious talk of anything. What they consider serious debate is a thread with a single sentence saying "god 1, atheists 0" and a random picture.

You can have a serious discussion on 4Chan, just not on /b/. 4chan is not all /b/. I never said "/mlp/ and ponychan killed my bronyism", I said "bronyism is dead here are some examples as to why this is."

Here, have a VN that /jp/ recommended. It's messed up but it's good.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4770060

 

[Dagda Mor]

OP, I don't like how you say that we should 'hate' it. One thing you should learn from MLP is that hate gets you nowhere.

Also, you used 'they're' instead of 'their' in the tl;dr section.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

From what I can gather, the reason they barely touched on the 'clopping' aspect of the fandom (aside from the obvious), is because Rule 34 is a fact of the internet.

Any documentary about a piece of entertainment, and fans thereof, could potentially have a Rule 34 component.
But because documentaries generally don't go there, the makers of *this* documentary didn't see the need to go there either.

It wasn't so much the lack of mentioning R34 that bothered me, it's that they don't mention any of the negative parts of the fandom.

Wait, hold on, you seem to be implying that the Pony Rule 34 is one of those negative parts...

[sub/]but its the only positive part of the fandom[/sub] ._.

OT:
That's really too bad.

I'm no fan of the show or the people who enjoy it, but it's a fascinating movement nonetheless and it's certainly something that needs to be studied and examined.

Maybe we'll get a real documentary somewhere down the line...

 

[tamago]

Mandopedo

This shit again? If Mando's such a pedo why is Michelle Creber still working with him? Granted, Mando did overreact to $Chan, but until I hear it from Michelle herself that he was creeping on her I'm going to call bullshit.

 

[Kolby Jack]

Doesn't surprise me at all, to be honest. This fandom really goes out of it's way to hide anything that portrays itself in a bad light, especially since these days it really is just another silly fandom with massive mounts of fandumb. So truly, it's nothing special at all anymore. Nothing that requires a documentary.

I mean, these days I'd say the Brony fandom is no different or special than any other major fandom. At all.

But were they really EVER any different? I mean they got more attention than most, but they behaved just like any other fandom would. The crazies, the casuals, the hipsters ("I watched it before it was cool!"), the closet fans, the not-crazy-but-really-into-its, and the overwhelming notion that those who don't watch it "just don't get it." In fact, the MLP fandom didn't even really get that much attention ANYWHERE except on the internet. People who don't browse popular internet culture forums (IE most people) still at this point probably haven't even heard of MLP:FIM or at the most are only aware that it's a thing that exists. The brony phenomenon only got so much internet lurker attention because of 4chan, but even then, while most forum-goers may have enjoyed the occasional trolling or ribbing of bronies, the amount of people who actually, truly cared about MLP's popularity among non-typical demographics outside of actual fans of the show was most likely very, very small.

Honestly, the only thing different about bronies is that their fandom of the show doesn't translate at all into a fandom of the franchise. I highly doubt that any brony out there gives two shits about MLP beyond FiM and will immediately abandon the franchise after the show ends. Most things that are part of franchises that gain new fans get at least some of those newcomers interested in other parts of the franchise. People who like the new series of Transformers games may be more inclined to check out the various cartoons. Fans of Halo may get into the book series or other Bungie series'. New fans of a sports team may want to learn more about that team's history. But you'll have a hell of time trying to convince me that any brony will actually turn their FiM fanaticism into an interest in other aspects of MLP. It's not gonna happen. It also means the longevity of this particular fanbase will be MUCH shorter than most.

 

[SilkySkyKitten]

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That's the thing, back in it's early days there was something different about the Brony fanbase. Maybe it was simply due to the little subgroups of the fandom I hung out in, but there was a general... niceness to the fandom. As if people were actually friendly to one another, actually civil and didn't ***** about every little minor change in a new episode or have the usual generic shipping wars. It was genuinely the nicest and most friendly fandom I had ever been a part of. Which is ironic considering it started on 4chan, I know. I mean, it wasn't perfect, but it was better than anything else I had ever seen.

... aaaand then the fandom exploded. And that niceness and kindness faded away and was replaced by a lot of idiocy, hypocrisy, and stuff that made my forehead red from how many times I slapped my palm against it. The Brony fandom used to genuinely be special, and then everything that made the Brony fandom special disappeared.

Oh, and honestly I would have to call bullshit on that "FiM fans will never be interested in the rest of the MLP franchise" statement. Considering that there are many Bronies who have made artwork and fanfictions involving ponies from previous generations alongside the current FiM, as well Bronies buying the toys and such kinda goes against that statement. Plus, while this is a more personal example, my interest in FiM actually caused me to go back and try to watch at least one episode from each of the TV shows/direct-to-video thingies of the previous generations. And, believe it or not... I actually liked the original G1 show and had a desire to poke into it a bit more.

I mean, yeah, there are plenty of Bronies who will pretty much drop the franchise once FiM is over, I will agree there. But that no fans of FiM will ever be interested in other aspects of the MLP franchise? No. That, my dear sir, is simply wrong.