Well its cool and all, but even though i havent finish my bac. degree the things ive learned outside the classroom and the experiences ive been through are priceless. And no job can offer that if you skip college. My 2 cents...
Why college? Why Bother?
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Not to stray too off topic, but Inheritance is terrible. Amateurish, inconsistent and filled with enough mistakes, errors and general stupidities to make the Microsoft Word Paperclip explode in sad despair. Good reviews for the first two here: http://swankivy.com/writing/essays/info/inheritance.htmlwolfy098 said:jacobschndr said:exactly
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Anyway, on topic, as far as I understand, the US Higher Education System is vastly different to that of my home, the UK. In my opinion your "college" is rather a more advanced version of "high school". In the UK, you need some form of qualification equivalent to A Level to get a decent, high paying job. You don't have to go to University, but it helps for more advanced jobs with, as plagues this country, massive salaries.
I've already finished college, moving on to (hopefully) do my Law degree at University. I have no idea whether it'll pay off, or if I'll even reach the end of my multiple years of training, but I played Phoenix Wright one day and decided to give it a try. No, seriously.
Other than that my hobby is writing, and if I can make money off that in the very distant future...well, all the more.
Other than that my hobby is writing, and if I can make money off that in the very distant future...well, all the more.
Who the hell quotes from Eragon?wolfy098 said:
Myself I plan to find to go into Political Science to perhaps become a lawyer and from there maybe a position in a Federal Agency - particularly the Department of Veterans Affairs because I have a great interest in helping those who have helped my country.
This can be true, the job I have now has nothing to do with the degree I pursued in college (never finished) and I make more money then most of my friends with very impressive educations and degrees. There is only a few out there that actually make good money with what they learnied in college, ones a psychologist and the others a lawyer. It's funny though, I have a friend girl that makes almost as much money as them as a bartender.
it really depends, it depends on the degree and it depends on you. my friend just finished with an insane degree in business but is a telemarketer, answering phones and selling bullshit on the phone... Mean while, other people who haven't finished college or even taken it, get killer jobs. Some jobs, like engineering, IS about what you know. but like mine for example. I make films, its not necessarily WHAT you know, its WHO you now and WHAT have you done.
SO all in all, its an individual question with an individual answer.
SO all in all, its an individual question with an individual answer.
Well, the way im looking at it, i'd recommend taking it easy. With your mind not yet maid up on a lot of things, only you can give it more thought and follow through on said thoughts later in life. If being average isn't such a bad thing (which I agree on, but theres a limit to average, seeing how most average people are still struggling to the end to make ends meet, which is NO fun) then be content with it, to a higher degree. Just take it easy and think it all through while you still got the time, ya know? Whatever floats your boat down shit creek, just make sure you have a paddle for when tough times smack you in the face.AverageJoe said:
I don't reaally wantto go to coolege unless I'm doing some sort of sort myself. But my parents are forcing me too.
(In response to Tenmar)
I'm saying that there's shit recently about unfairly massive salaries in certain office and political positions, but at least those unfairly paid positions need a good education to be hired for. That provides an incentive to go to "college" or University, for the unfairly big salaries.
I'm saying that there's shit recently about unfairly massive salaries in certain office and political positions, but at least those unfairly paid positions need a good education to be hired for. That provides an incentive to go to "college" or University, for the unfairly big salaries.
You should of course go to school and study what interests you as a person, but you should
factor in the possible future. If you study something really narrow, then you have to realize
that finding a job will be hard. I myself chose a rather broad field of study for the sake of
finding a future job, but to each his own I guess.
factor in the possible future. If you study something really narrow, then you have to realize
that finding a job will be hard. I myself chose a rather broad field of study for the sake of
finding a future job, but to each his own I guess.
that idea would be better initially (provided you have the money in cash before you go) but in the long run there's no way that it would be better. To put it in perspective I made the money I spent on college in 1 year.Twilight_guy said:
I had part time jobs in college too, so you could say that I missed out on 4 years of 20 hour work weeks at about 8 bucks an hour (I worked 20 hours a week so 20+20=40). That amounts up to about $33K over 4 years. so hypothetically I would have made 66k over those four years had I not gone into college.
but here's the kicker; now that I'm out of college, the amount I make compared to my part time jobs has more than quadrupled. It doesn't take long to make up the money I missed out on by not going to college but then to add on top of that. (and to be clear about this; I love my job and am not in this for money, though it is a nice perk)
College is very much worth your time and investment. Even if you don't get a job in the field you want, that piece of paper opens many more doors than you could imagine. If you can find a job that pays well that doesn't require much education, more power to you. Just be sure that that is what you want to do.
Well I'm just finished college, I'm 28 now. I left a 800 Euro a week job to study, for the last 3 years I have been earing, about, 170-200 Euro per week. I did not go to college to get a good job, I had a good job. I went to get a better understanding of a subject that I love; history.
I moved 200 miles, to the other side of this island to do too.
Was it worth it? Hell yes! Sure, I'm broke, but I have bettered myself, I have a deeper understanding of history, I met the love of my life in college and I live in a fatastic city.
College is fantastic!!
I moved 200 miles, to the other side of this island to do too.
Was it worth it? Hell yes! Sure, I'm broke, but I have bettered myself, I have a deeper understanding of history, I met the love of my life in college and I live in a fatastic city.
College is fantastic!!
Baby Tea, I agree with you completely. I do Mathematics at university, I'm in the second year of my BSc and I'm hoping to do a Year In Industry (basically, a paid internship in my third year with some company, returning to the third year of my course in my fourth year instead). Hopefully I can get a p[lacement with a local games developer, preferably near my hometown but if not then Rockstar have offices in my adopted city, Leeds. My ambition is to be a games developer, idelally level design or perhaps programming. I've also been told that maths is a highly sought after degree among people attempting to entrer the gaming industry.Baby Tea said:
But that isn't the sole reason I chose to do maths. Basically, I love the subject. It's the only thing I really enjoyed at school and was any good at, and gaming has been my passion since I ws about six years old. I have no idea how much develoeprs earn, if it's a lot then that's all well and good and I'll be able to fulfill my dream of living in a swanky Docklands apartment near Canary Wharf. If not, then never mind, at least I'll be doing what I love. But game development, and a maths degree, are the things I do because I love doing them.
That said, in the recession (the UK has been pretty badly hit), I've heard that at universities a lot of people are now staying on because they know they can't get a job elsewhere. Apparently more and more people are doing doctorates and taking up research posts and living on their student loans because if they leave the university system they can't find work now. Which means they instead stay on and live off the government and the universities and basically put off the hunt for an actual job for as long as possible, until the job market is easier to navigate and it's easier to find work. I won't be doing that, but it makes you think, is it really worth it, staying on instead of spending your time trying to find work? At least with a Year In Industry degree I'll have a better chance, hopefully, of getting work, and have a year in which to make contacts and make a name for myself within the gaming industry before I have to actually start finding a permanant position somewhere...
Well I'm studying medicine not for the money, but really the job security, I don't want to worry about having five different jobs in my life. I want something that allows me to work anywhere.jacobschndr said:
ok, I'm from Germany so things around here are a little different (you have a spend 3 years learning any job to earn more than like 5-6? an hour). plus if you don't get any higher education earning some decent money is a real *****.
I just started university and if I do everything just right they will let me leave in 2014 as an engineer. So far I really like it cause university is a nice combination of fun and challenge so I am really doing what I do cause I like it (plus i like the the 50-60k anual salary I will be having from year 1).
sry for any mistakes or strange sentences, i just came home and really wanted to get this done befre falling into bed
I just started university and if I do everything just right they will let me leave in 2014 as an engineer. So far I really like it cause university is a nice combination of fun and challenge so I am really doing what I do cause I like it (plus i like the the 50-60k anual salary I will be having from year 1).
sry for any mistakes or strange sentences, i just came home and really wanted to get this done befre falling into bed
Who says they won't like it? I want to work as a lawyer in the financial industry and while my pupils are turning into convenient little dollar signs, I actually WANT to. Getting the big bucks means earning it, unless you just suck at your job and lose money and destroy the Earth and have good friends in Washington and you work for AIG. Point is, education is key to being able to do what you want. So some blue collar jobs may pay more. If that's the point, do that. Just think though, do you really WANT to work your body while letting your mind be neglected from its potential?