Why couldn't Lara get a jacket or coat from her fallen enemies?
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Yeah, Throne know's what those clothes might have on them, guessing showering and washing of the clothes isn't really on those guys "to do" list. I guess she might take one of their coats if it was literally life and death, worst case she might just have to shave her hair for a bit when she get's back home and get medicine to deal with any lice she might have caught from them.Moonlight Butterfly said:
Actually I like her outfit this time out, fits the setting rather well and I'm guessing it's something one would wear for exploring an area like that. Atleast it's not like the first game or so when she had on hot pants in Nepal, I know she's a tough woman but damn.
rhizhim said:because you wouldnt be able to change her costume through dlc..Richfeet said:
Still slightly better than grinding through a hundred and fifty goons who are clearly wearing jackets, so that you can gather the materials required to craft one yourself.
Also extremely dangerous in terms of pathogens considering the fact that she is pretty torn up as well.Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Because cleavage. Duh.Richfeet said:
Very true. They also have asses.Moonlight Butterfly said:
Hey hey hold off on the banhammer there Mr or Ms Moderator is it was a JOKE!
The only one I can think of is the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer video game on Xbox. And it was an excellent game at that. She had at least 5 or 6 wardrobe changes throughout the game.APersonHere said:
That's my thought process. Especially the bitchin' part.Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Oddly enough, I'm currently writing a novel where a character is running around in someone else's coat. A coat in which the other character was stabbed. In the back.
The reactions are squickier than I'm applying to this convo. >.>
With higher resolution character models comes greater laziness. We used to see a lote more variety. On the other hand, there's the new trend of costumes that show wear, a la Batman and Spidey, but who's to say if that catches on. Costume wear could be a perfect reason to justify changing one's clothes.APersonHere said:
Though now I'm nostalgic for Saints Row 2, where you were mocked if you wore your clothing for too long.
I assume it's because they wanted to show how much she gets beat up through the game, like Batman in Arkham Asylum/City. So having her take jackets off of dead enemies and covering said damage would kind of go against what they were going for.
When has a video game character ever taken clothes off a dead enemy?
Most of them stay with the same model for the entire game. Why wouldn't they? That's how games are designed.
Most of them stay with the same model for the entire game. Why wouldn't they? That's how games are designed.
Referring to your second claim, the original Prince of Persia had the Prince's attire change during the course of the game (tearing off a sleeve here or there) and used it as a means to portray character growth. As the life he knew drifted farther and father away he changed, not just mentally, but physically.bastardofmelbourne said:
Star Wars: Force Unleashed (although a very flawed game) changed Starkiller's outfit every mission to do much the same as he moved between the light and dark side of the force.
Physical appearance is a great way to deliver character narrative and clothing is the easiest way to do that. To reboot a character like Lara Croft without the sensibilities discussed here and to relegate outfits to DLC or Pre-order bonuses misses a major opportunity to further flesh out the character (which, from what I read could have been done more thoroughly and gradually). It would not have been difficult to have her stumble upon a jacket of a former cremate among the debris or discover some rock-climbing gloves to further Lara's character development.
I didn't even think about her clothes until they brought this up besides the "it's nice that her clothes actually rip and tear after some of the shit she went through." That and the cuts and bruises added a little bit of impact to what she was going through.Moonlight Butterfly said:
I'm getting the feeling some people just aren't going to be happy until Lara Croft, along with pretty much EVERY female character in video games looks like this:
If you dare reveal anything then it becomes part of the whole "gaze" thing. There are currently some feminists saying that Lara's pants were too tight, her beautifully-shaped ass is too much on display.
I'm thinking this has less to do with sexism and more to do with real-life women being jealous that a video game character can look so much nicer than them thanks to current-generation graphics. There's a term for this (don't say "jealousy" lol) but I'm forgetting it.
If you dare reveal anything then it becomes part of the whole "gaze" thing. There are currently some feminists saying that Lara's pants were too tight, her beautifully-shaped ass is too much on display.
I'm thinking this has less to do with sexism and more to do with real-life women being jealous that a video game character can look so much nicer than them thanks to current-generation graphics. There's a term for this (don't say "jealousy" lol) but I'm forgetting it.
Johnny Novgorod said:
I'll be honest here. Nothing stopped me from gazing at Lara's least revealed parts. Sometimes it's better to leave things to the imagination. Who knows what lies beneath that burqa?Aaron Sylvester said:I'm getting the feeling some people just aren't going to be happy until Lara Croft, along with pretty much EVERY female character in video games looks like this:
If you dare reveal anything then it becomes part of the whole "gaze" thing. There are currently some feminists saying that Lara's pants were too tight, her beautifully-shaped ass is too much on display.
I'm thinking this has less to do with sexism and more to do with real-life women being jealous that a video game character can look so much nicer than them thanks to current-generation graphics. There's a term for this (don't say "jealousy" lol) but I'm forgetting it.
Is the word you're looking for "envy?"
I'm not saying it wouldn't be narratively useful. I've played Arkham Asylum and Max Payne - both games that make excellentuse of alterations to the protagonist's appearance to indicate progression through the plot. I'm just saying that the first thing you do in a video game is the art design and initial renders, and it's not unusual for a protagonist to stick with one rendered model for the entire plot despite being given good reasons to change clothes at one point. Developers are lazy like that.Garland said:
Sure, it'd be a great idea if Lara changed her top at some point. I liked it with Batman and Max Payne did it. But it's the exception rather than the rule, and generally I don't expect a character's outfit to change over the course of the game, nor do I throw my arms up in the air in outrage when it doesn't.
I would say it is more in keeping with the iconic look of Lara over the years than any real sexism behind it. Although to be honest, that iconic look was meant to be titillating in the early games, this seems more likely a move by the developers to try and tie the new Lara to the old. I would honestly have no problems though if she were sporting a radically different look for the next game, as her look does have something of a stigma to it.
Also, in game there is no reason to not pick up a jacket the first chance she got. Any normal person would wear it when they are cold and would remove it if it became a bit of a burden.
Also, in game there is no reason to not pick up a jacket the first chance she got. Any normal person would wear it when they are cold and would remove it if it became a bit of a burden.
They actually answered this question on the Crystal Habit Podcast (their Q&A sessions with guests and fans). Other than programming reasons which several people mentioned earlier, they also wanted to keep her outfit and look iconic to the game - if the outfit changed, it wouldn't be as readily recognizable nor as much of a symbol.
1. Because they had a pre-order exclusive with a jacket.
2. Because she needs to be agile, it would be impractical.
3. Because she's meant to look vulnerable, it's part of the character.
2. Because she needs to be agile, it would be impractical.
3. Because she's meant to look vulnerable, it's part of the character.