Why do console gamers settle for so little?
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It's a matter of perspective. Incidentally, did you know that 3 million children die every year from malnutrition?
first off, you are being an elitist prick. second i think people have tried to lobby for free XBL but Microsoft is so rich and greedy that they just gave up. and third, most of those problems you mentioned aren't really a big deal if you have the right connection. there are other games or game types to play than just 9 on 9. there are plenty of games i'd like to play on the PC but i don't have thousands of dollars to shell out for a gaming computer what with all my schoolwork and the main thing is, consoles are more of a group experience. you'd never hear someone say, "okay everyone, gander round the computer for a movie."
oh, i see what this is now. you've been screwed over by the bigwhigs so now you want to attack the market they cater to most? tsk tsk
ok... look... i am a 4 console player, and i personaly play each system for what it is, a pc?? for great RPG, MMORPG and some FPS´s (because me in Mexico everyone else i know dont touch a PC for gaming so i dont really go into multiplayer in that area) i get that the MODS are free, cool and great, but also are the cheaters and the amount of lag with Mexican internet makes it fairly closer to consoles that you would thinkDoug said:
XBOX, i play it for my friends, everyone haves an XBOX (even if i dont really like games that kill single player for multiplayer like say Halo 3)
PS3, for single player games and exclusives, i like the resolution and the bluray wich i can never hope to achieve in my PC because parts are too hard to find at a fair price here in MX
Wii, heh, obviously Mario, Zelda, Metroid fan boy (and i loved red steel)
Is it really a poor service? To you it is yes because you have come to expect these things on the PC. Where as people who use consoles come to expect the things they get on the consoles.
Plus, you have to remember. People buy consoles more because buying or building a good gaming PC can cost more than a console. They are not settling for little as more so as settling for what is cheaper.
I play both PC and Consoles.
so you'll refute every honest word of mine as just being an attempt to "troll?" pfft. such things are below me.
truth is, i don't really know how much it costs, but i know i can't afford it seeing as i've already purchased a 360 with XBL and i'm sixteen working part time.
truth is, i don't really know how much it costs, but i know i can't afford it seeing as i've already purchased a 360 with XBL and i'm sixteen working part time.
If we buy nothing, then there won't be any console games. I WOULD like to see consoles start catching up to PC's more since the technology is there finally. I have a dedicated game machine (console) so that I and my friends can enjoy games while my computer can be used for work-related things. So, as ever, we vote with our $$ and slowly the market improves.CerealKiller said:
Actually, no, I own an XBox and a Wii, though I prefer PC. I have played XBox live matches, and always have wondered why console people seem to think there great. I was not apart of the boycott, although I didn't buy MW2 straight away.tellmeimaninja said:
Bullshit.
Yes, very clever - "Hu-huh, I made a buttsex joke." - and what you've just said is your settling for a worse service. So you'll never, ever get anything better, because you won't complain. Good for you, I guess.
Seriously? You can't see the irony of the fact YOU started from the position of assuming I'm a 'PC elitist'?
Again, WHY? If you don't complain, things will either just not improve, or get worse until companies find to point where they can do the minimum for your price. You're literally saying you less for low standards here.
Why? Because YOU are the ones who realistically determine what a company can charge for a service, yes? And again, I wasn't a boycotter. What I'm complaining about is how you are letting yourselves get ripped off. And up until recently, that didn't affect us on the PC because, well, Infinity Ward actually gave a shit.
Actually, you know what, fuck it, you're just going to reply with a post about "How you have buttsex with ma PC" and how I "a whiny prick", etc, etc.
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What I'm saying is why don't console players demand their money's worth? Ok, on the PS3, online play is free and all. But XBox live is a subscription service that provides LESS than what the free internet does on PC. So what I'm saying is why aren't you asking for a better service for your money than what we get on PC? If anything, the XBox Live service should be leading the way forwards. So basically, I'm saying "Why paid for an inferior service?" Ok, the XBox is cheaper than the average PC, but really, you're supposely paiding for great online multiplayer, but if any of the popular online multiplayers on console provide, say, 64 player games with only small amounts of lag, I've not seen it.HentMas said:
The answer is ignorance. Ironically most Sony exclusive online games support at least 32 players. This while being free even though these games would justify some sort of pricing..........
I consider myself a PC gamer, but yeah I got a Wii and PS3, well and a DS if you want to count that as a modern console heh. But I find myself playing more PC games these days. Now, a game will come out on the PS3 every once in a while that forces me to buy it, but other than that, most of my budget goes to PC games.
I actually got tried of the console wars of xbox vs 360 debate. It is like trying to argue politics or religion sometimes! What I found out though was it seems that the game industry is lazy. They write a game in Microsoft code and then are able to port it to the 360 very easy, but when they go to port it to the PS3, they do not re-write the code. So, the PS3 does not get full use of it's hardware, so it preforms very low on multi-platform releases. But on PURE ps3 titles (like MGS4 and such) you can see some of the extra hardware under the hood being used. It would be like having a sports car but never being able to get it out of 2nd gear, because all the other cars can only go that fast. But that is my main gripe is the PS3 appears poor due to lack luster developer support.
But for the most part, the lack of use of keyboard in most console games dumb down the gameplay. No matter how many buttons you put on a controller, the keyboard still has more. Now I know modern consoles support the use of keyboards, but most of the games do not, as far as anything other than a chat method. That being said, the scope of the PC games will always be greater that console games, until the true invention of REAL VR, at which point all people throughout the world will likely die from starving to death from playing for a week straight without jacking out.
I actually got tried of the console wars of xbox vs 360 debate. It is like trying to argue politics or religion sometimes! What I found out though was it seems that the game industry is lazy. They write a game in Microsoft code and then are able to port it to the 360 very easy, but when they go to port it to the PS3, they do not re-write the code. So, the PS3 does not get full use of it's hardware, so it preforms very low on multi-platform releases. But on PURE ps3 titles (like MGS4 and such) you can see some of the extra hardware under the hood being used. It would be like having a sports car but never being able to get it out of 2nd gear, because all the other cars can only go that fast. But that is my main gripe is the PS3 appears poor due to lack luster developer support.
But for the most part, the lack of use of keyboard in most console games dumb down the gameplay. No matter how many buttons you put on a controller, the keyboard still has more. Now I know modern consoles support the use of keyboards, but most of the games do not, as far as anything other than a chat method. That being said, the scope of the PC games will always be greater that console games, until the true invention of REAL VR, at which point all people throughout the world will likely die from starving to death from playing for a week straight without jacking out.
I think most people choose consoles because they are more user friendly. PC's have to be regularly updated and they can be a little complicated. I'd say that PC's are for hardcore gamers, PS3's and Xbox 360's are casual (I only have a PS3) and Wii's are for housebound women and toddlers. (Only joking, or was I.)
PC seems to enjoy the luxury of having SOOOOOOOOOOO many more people allowed in on the map. I never thought about the fact that there's actually no reason at all that microsoft won't let us play with more than 18 people on the 360.
I just got myself an aaawwwwwwwwwesome new PC, so i guess i'll be spending a little less time on my 360 and PS3 now that i have a computer that can actually play games
I agree with he who says that a good gaming PC would cost more than both the consoles combined. IT DOES. it cost me way more than my 360 and my PS3 combined. There are many many pros and cons.
Hey, it all comes down to what you WANT to do with your money and time. do you WANT to spend heaps of money on an ultimate gaming PC and have free access to the interwebz and 32-player multiplayer, or do you WANT to save a couple of thousand dollars and pay $200 for a (quite limited) console and 80 bucks a year for an Xbox live subscription, and sacrifice that extra ability to be able to shoot more guys at once?
When you look at it that way, you're paying like, 2 grand to be able to play with an extra 12 people.
18 people... 80 bucks a year (or free on PS3)
32 people... $2000 gaming PC (rough estimate) plus hundreds of $$'s on upgrades whenever hardware gets out of date...
I just got myself an aaawwwwwwwwwesome new PC, so i guess i'll be spending a little less time on my 360 and PS3 now that i have a computer that can actually play games
I agree with he who says that a good gaming PC would cost more than both the consoles combined. IT DOES. it cost me way more than my 360 and my PS3 combined. There are many many pros and cons.
Hey, it all comes down to what you WANT to do with your money and time. do you WANT to spend heaps of money on an ultimate gaming PC and have free access to the interwebz and 32-player multiplayer, or do you WANT to save a couple of thousand dollars and pay $200 for a (quite limited) console and 80 bucks a year for an Xbox live subscription, and sacrifice that extra ability to be able to shoot more guys at once?
When you look at it that way, you're paying like, 2 grand to be able to play with an extra 12 people.
18 people... 80 bucks a year (or free on PS3)
32 people... $2000 gaming PC (rough estimate) plus hundreds of $$'s on upgrades whenever hardware gets out of date...
