Why do Jocks get away with it?

[chazwasser8]

it was private school
catholic school
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Found your problem. Catholic and private schools are for kids with either rich parents, parents who somehow think that they are better or kids who were expelled from public schools.

So ya the douchebag levels are quite high in those schools.[/quote]

I attended small catholic schools from pre-k to 12th grade and I never witnessed or even heard about a single instance of bullying in that time. Also jocks didn't recieve special treatment and the acadmic requirements were actually enforced for them. But then again we were mostly middle class and had no football team.

 

[Jroo wuz heer]

I have to admit I chuckled about the stereotypical nerd rage. that must suck though, that has happened to me before but I just never let it get to me, although it was never to such an extreme

achery merit badge! *high fives*

 

[Blitzwarp]

Have you seen the film or read the book named Carrie? What you should do is reenact the scene where she gets back at everyone. Even though you have already been expelled, you could still go back there and do it.

No but to be a bit more serious, I think it's because the school you attended was shit.

I agree. On both counts. >.>

To answer the OP's question, I guess that the Jock subculture in American schools (we don't have Jocks as our school bullies in the UK; we have the lower-middle class Chavs who are expelled every ten seconds for doing something stupid) tend to come from upper-middle class, so the school doesn't do jack in order to not be sued (you mentioned they whaled on your because you were poor?).

 

[Dags90]

never heard of this stuff, is this in america?

in england you just have to put up with people being twats, oh and good job with the garrotte should have made him unconscious though sends a message through when you almost potentially kill someone...

I thought England was in the midst of a youth knife crime epidemic?

 

[nuba km]

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it's simple the school needs funding a successful sports team means they get money and if the sport team gets any black marks on the record they are kicked from the team the school doesn't want that so they will take their side.
Also as you are a video game playing nerd they think you will go into school and release your anger as lead.

 

[Rocking Thunder]

This is a reply to Kebabco

Ok you're mixing up different points here.

And you are mixing some things up period

- Nerds get shit because they're not socially savvy

Not true, its just that they isolate themselves from the other social groups by often trying to show off how smart they are, if they did not have to be the best, they will likely do just as well as anybody else

- Jocks get all the attention / girls because they are athletic (sexyyy!)

Not all girls like jocks, its just that for the nerds they tend to be more focused on school work that relationships (and that is the way it should be). I was a jock, yet I only had a girlfriend about 10% of the time in high school.

and aren?t afraid to compete in tests of strength (sexxxxyy!)

Almost everybody likes to compete, its just that nerds and jocks compete in different ways. The girls tend who go out with jocks out tend to not stay in relationships for long (personal experience)

- Unless a nerd has some kind of disability; he can do those things are jock can do, genetic traits needed to be at least acceptable at some physically exerting sport (like most jocks are, they're not olympic athletes) are not exactly rare

It is not physically characteristics that are the problem, it is mental one, you cannot really be a football player if you dont like to get hit. Oh, and the superstars do tend to be both in shape and built for what they do

- A jock can't become a nerd; most of them are too stupid. Please go take an IQ test of all jocks & nerds at your local high school to prove my point.

So, so far from the truth. I was both a jock and a nerd (well at least I was accepted in both circles, but I still stayed away from the freaks, aka the goths and whatnot). My IQ is 142, that is INSANE, and I am a football player. It is just that for the average football player, the game comes before school work, and for the nerd the opposite. IQ does not matter, it is the lifestyle you live.

 

[Blitzwarp]

never heard of this stuff, is this in america?

in england you just have to put up with people being twats, oh and good job with the garrotte should have made him unconscious though sends a message through when you almost potentially kill someone...

I thought England was in the midst of a youth knife crime epidemic?

Only according to a few knee-jerk newspapers trying to stir public conscience on slow news days. :/

 

[supermariner]

from the thread title i thought jocks was referring to scots
to which the answer would be: because they have incredible accents

 

[zidine100]

right then here the thing, you got punished, because there was a teacher who saw you tie a rope around his neck and there would be alot of people able to back that one up, even a teacher for crying out loud.

im assuming they were hitting you in a more discrete place of the school rather than underneath the teachers nose. And well if they tried to suspend him for hitting you it would have ended badly for you, his friends would say your making it up and well they would have no choice but to believe them, and you would have been punished for making it up. For all they know you could have hit yourself and made marks yourself.

also would you really be able to prove that removing the mat was not a accident (aka he didn't see you up the rope, thought you were already down, was adjusting its position because it was out of place and didn't think you would jump at that precise time), or that the pad wasn't in the right position in the first place? If you couldn't well.. there you go, teachers will give someone the benefit of the doubt normally.

@OP

Well I assume that you live in America because if that was England, the right wing press would have demolished those bullies...

The tabloids DO have their uses...
I used to get bullied in primary, but when you get to secondary education and everyone gets a bit more mature, only the really weird kids get bullied. And even then, if anyone dared beat up those aforementioned weird kids they themselves would most likely be beaten up.
At least, that's the case with my school.

aww thanks dude you just called me weird.

in england you just have to put up with people being twats, oh and good job with the garrotte should have made him unconscious though sends a message through when you almost potentially kill someone...

nearly killing someone in front of a teacher would not end well, let me tell you that. Besides the neck is very delicate if he screwed up with the timing (come on now, do you really think he would be able to time it so hes unconscious, but not suffering from oxygen deprivation, that's a hard thing to do when your angry) he would be dead / disabled and you would be screwed.

for future reference, if you really want to give them a warning do it out of sight, and preferably with a more discrete method, a medium (hold back a bit you don't want to damage them, even if your weak a punch to the balls will hurt your average opponent significantly) punch to the balls usually works perfectly, it's damn near impossible to prove if he was by himself (do you really think he will be willing to show a teacher the marks down there if there is any) and works as a good deterrent (at best you'll get detention, if you do it in school grounds of course, the police generally have better things to worry about than some random punching someone in the balls, depending on your age im assuming they'd just give you a warning if they even did try to chase it up). Just do it and get out before he recovers. still it can backfire with him getting pissed off, but generally there cowards.

 

[Dags90]

Only according to a few knee-jerk newspapers trying to stir public conscience on slow news days. :/

So bands of children wielding knives haven't overthrown civil society? Yet?

 

[BrionJames]

damn man where do you live? 1985?

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

They take pride in doing what they consider 'smart things' and dismiss everything else as unimportant or unskilled. Social and physical skills are just as important as academic skills and just as difficult, it's nerd arrogance to think they could do those things if they wanted to.

Except sports aren't a 'social skill', and nerds don't generally harbor delusions of their physical prowess. And it's remarkably easy to look down on sports, because sports should not matter, at all - the fact that they do is perhaps the greatest travesty of the modern American educational system. What does it matter how "good" your school's team of athletes are at performing a bloody recreational activity? Why do we revere people who do not actually do anything important? Sports are games! That's it!

No, it is very VERY easy to see why nerds tend to view sports with such disdain - there is absolutely nothing wrong with athletic activities, it's good exercise and all, but caring more about the ultimately entirely irrelevant outcomes of meaningless games than the quality of the education you provide to students is, no matter how you slice it, bloody stupid, and yet we do. Since nerds don't care about sports, at all, it is oh so easy to paint the people who do (even if they aren't beholden to our cultural mass delusion that sports actually matter) as bloody idiots, and it's equally easy to see how that might get them pummeled (and then vindicate in their minds everything they've already decided about those doing the pummeling, especially considering they just resorted to violence and intimidation).

But to suggest that bullying is almost always something that the bullied provoke through the social cues they send out? That paints an altogether too reasonable picture of bullies and people in general - some people are simply assholes, taking out their issues on weaker targets who they think can't defend themselves, or simply being cruel because they're malicious bastards and they can be. You don't have to necessarily do anything to provoke a bully, all you have to do is look like a likely target. Kids are after all basically sociopaths until we train them not to be, and we frequently don't do a very good job. Blaming the actions of those little monsters on the possible arrogance of their victims ignores the real culprits - their jackass parents, and the failure of the institutions that are supposed to be training them out of that sort of behavior, not ignoring it or enabling it.

 

[Blitzwarp]

Only according to a few knee-jerk newspapers trying to stir public conscience on slow news days. :/

So bands of children wielding knives haven't overthrown civil society? Yet?

SSSSSHHHHHH THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE PLAN!

No, not yet. Give it another, ah, 15-20 years. Totally not ready yet.

 

[WorldCritic]

Because people in school administration are weak and pathetic people who tried to convince themselves otherwise by getting jobs with the word "administrator" in them. I remember four years ago I got into an argument with some ass and I called him an idiot for something and he proceeded to try and strangle and kept threatening to kill me as a group of 15 people watched. We both got sent to the office where we were both punished with detention. I got in trouble and the dumb ass avoided suspension all because the moron's dad was friends with the principal.

 

[dragonslayer32]

I see it as karma, the jocks (In England anyway) don't get anywhere in life, people like us do. Let them have their fun while they can, we have the last laugh...

 

[standokan]

I feel for you bro, High School's hell

Reminds me of that horror movie, I don't remember perfectly but I think it was called High School Musical, it really scared the shit out of me.

 

[Deverfro]

I know how you feel. Im 18, never had a girlfriend.

There is this one guy who was my friend in priamry school (Im in the UK) And the second we got too high school he bullied me to get popular, which crippled my confidence and self esteem.

But fuck him, I got better friends now. Like those jocks, his life peaked in high school, its down hill from there.

 

[brtshstel]

I know how that is. The dean of students at my high school was the fucking varsity football coach. At a Catholic high school no less.

Fuck that place.

It's worse now because since state universities have had their funding cut due to economic woes, programs across the board are losing funding, sections for high-enrollment classes, compensation for faculty, and faculty members altogether...

Except the football team. The coaches are still making absurd amounts of money and the program isn't losing any funding. While I struggle to get into classes because they had to drop a section, the football coach still gets his fucking pay raise because they don't want him to quit and go to another college.

Departments that actually teach important things that matter like: calculus, physics, composition, psychology, philosophy, education, humanities, engineering, technical training, and business, are losing their adjuncts because they can't afford them. As a result, classes are over full, teachers are overworked, students don't get as much feedback on their studies, books are being sold out because instructors aren't given enough time to order more, and students have to enroll for extra semesters so they can get required prerequisites.

I'm honestly surprised this country isn't dumber than it already is.

 

[templargunman]

I think the problem was that you were strangling the bully. I agree that you shouldn't be bullied in the way you have been, but by doing something that is immediately life threatening to the jock you upped the ante. With the bricks thing, I'm assuming you were suspended because the principle didn't want to lose his football team (seriously, who gives a shit about middle school football?). Anyway, I think the solution would've been to fight back the way they fight you. Honestly as long as you were fighting them the same way, beating up on them, and not doing it out of anger you probably would've just been one of those boys. That's what I did in middle school, I mean, I got in trouble, but it wasn't serious. This is probably a bad solution sense you were outnumbered and probably outclassed.

 

[Red Right Hand]

Ok.

Step 1: Start learning some kind of martial art.

Step 2: Film a training montage of yourself and use some 80's upbeat pop song as the soundtrack. Due to the well-known movie magic of training montages you'll be turned into a one-man killing machine.

Step 3: Confront the bullies and heroically kick their asses.

There we go, sorted.

Well, it worked for Rocky...