Why Do People "Hate" EA - IGN post

[The-Traveling-Bard]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/14/why-do-people-hate-ea


Yup.

Now I am going to make this pretty short, because I feel like whatever I say will just be beating a dead horse..

But the reason people hate is not because their a big business, or that their "The tallest tree therefor catches the most wind"

It's that they continue to pull stupid crap that is just unacceptable.

1. Banning accounts on forums which in turns bans your Origin account? NO!
This should have never happen in the first place. I will say this one could be a mistake because I don't know how they design their.. whatever you want to call it. Maybe this is something they truly didn't notice, but still.

Origin spying on my computer sending information to EA? NO!
I don't see how *anyone* can defend this one. This wasn't some mistake in bad coding. It had to be design specifically to do this. It wasn't a false positive it was just a straight positive.

Day 1 DLC

Okay, I really don't mind this one, but the problem is.. they don't release Day 1 DLC as dlc after a few weeks. If they released pre-order bonuses/day 1 dlcs as dlcs in the future I wouldn't mind this what so ever, but they don't so BOO and shame on you!

They change games.
Multiplayer in Dragon Age 3/Mass Effect 3?
No, no, no. These are single player games and all there time better be spent on SINGLE PLAYER. Let the companies make the games that their fans want and it will still sell well. I don't understand why EA feels the need to change things like this to fit a "wider audience". Take a note from CD projekt. Make a good game and it will sell!

Dead Space was a horror game that turned into another shitty generic linear action shooter. Why? Because you want to play it safe EA. That's why.

Rushing games out the door.
Dragon age 2 was rushed as quick grab cash. We all know it, but why? WHY? Just let them take their time making a good game, and it will sell. Again take a note from CD projekt.

DLC. Too much of it. I don't mind DLC as a concept but making me pay 3-5 dollars for a skin/gun/cheats/extras/etc that just could have been unlocks/rewards I have problem with that. I'm sure a lot of people do as well.

All those Sim Add ons? Give me a break.


As for the last paragraph. No the "Haters" is the majority group and we do *not* enjoy what you do. We enjoy what our Game Dev's do and we *hate* how you control them. We hate how you change OUR games Ea. We hate how change us nickle and dim for things that should just be in the game.

Again take notes from CD projekt. They made a great game. Then made ALL DLC free and even after a year they released a enhance edition for free to those who already bought the game while other publishers would have charged 40 dollars for it. If you take the same attitude as CD projekt your customers would love you more, but you don't.

The fact you don't even try to own to your mistakes and blame it on homophobes, and whiny customers who don't like the Madden cover just proves how low you are.


Ea you may not be worst then Bank Of America, but you're still fucking evil.

 

[DoPo]

Now I am going to make this pretty short, because I feel like whatever I say will just be beating a dead horse..

1. That's not short
2. Please, leave the poor horse alone. This article is already dissected and spit on by many people, including Jim.

Actually, I'll just watch his video again, because it's entertaining.

[video=5946]

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Now I am going to make this pretty short, because I feel like whatever I say will just be beating a dead horse..

1. That's not short
2. Please, leave the poor horse alone. This article is already dissected and spit on by many people, including Jim.

Actually, I'll just watch his video again, because it's entertaining.

._. I think I will watch this again to. Hahaha.

 

[tippy2k2]

Great, an article written by IGN (about as tabloid filth as you can get. A hobo on the street shouting about his genitals has more clout than IGN for the majority of gamers) that was written months [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.378956-So-IGN-decided-to-ask-why-do-people-hate-EA?page=1] ago.

I get that right now EA is the thing to beat on right now but, as you yourself have stated, this is a dead horse being beaten. This horse is so dead that there is nothing but a fine powder of a horse left on the ground. That fine powder was then beaten so that the dead horse powder is now atom sized. The only reason this atom-sized mist of dead horse meat isn't smaller is that we haven't invented a way to break atoms into something even smaller.

Half of your post is based on mis-information (Spyware [http://www.toptiertactics.com/9319/origins-of-misunderstanding-is-eas-storefront-so-evil/]) or assumption ("They banned me for asking for a refund!" cries the user trying to do a charge-back, something that is against the law and would get you banned from Steam. The only example I recall and could find via Google about people being banned from the forums lock their games was based on a whoops [http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/11/ea-retracts-game-ban-for-forum-violation/]. If you have examples, I will gladly hear them) and the other half is just plain opinion. You don't like Day 1 DLC; You don't think the addition of multi-player to Mass Effect and Dragon Age are good things; You don't like the changes made to Dead Space. You think they create too much DLC.

That's fine. You don't have to like EA and you have an easy way to send them a message; let them know that you don't like what they're doing and if they continue to ignore you, purchase from a different company (or if you absolutely HAVE to have the game, wait for some time to go by to hit their profits).

 

[Tom_green_day]

To quote the article 'also consider clothing factories in southeast Asia or diamond mines in southern Africa, or fast food outlets in the mid-west'
People who say EA are the wurst cumpany everzz really need to get some perspective. Primark and Tesco use little children in Asia. Just sayin'
I could say a million things about how I hate the way EA is being ragged on at the moment, but I'll limit myself by just saying that.

 

[T_ConX]

Did you really expect IGN to run a piece that would be even remotely critical of EA?

No, of course not! Wouldn't to scare away all those EA ad dollars, especially with the Battlefield 4 Ad Blitz just around the corner! IGN would never let it's dignity get in the way of corporate sponsorship!

 

[Andy Shandy]

Another EA thread.

This can only end swimmingly.

Although I must ask, was another EA thread really necessary, especially one based on a 9 month old article?

There has been plenty of discussion in other threads about EA's "misdemeanors" which have covered pretty much everything here.

I'll give my thoughts on EA anyway, that yes they have and continue to do stupid stuff, but they are not the evil that people are making them out to be certainly not "Worst Company in America" levels anyway.

 

[DoPo]

This can only end swimmingly.

I can only assume you mean that as in "In a river. Next to a whirpool. And some random stranger is currently considering who exactly to save"

 

[bug_of_war]

And this is what EA's hatedom tends to boil down to: the entitlement of gamers who feel like their opinion is more important than everyone else in the world and that anything they think should not be opposed.

Though I do question the intelligence of the writer of this article? Doesn't he see that it's a waste of time trying to persuade people who think that opinions other than their own are worthless anything?

You basically said everything I was about to type. Thank you...

 

[Andy Shandy]

This can only end swimmingly.

I can only assume you mean that as in "In a river. Next to a whirpool. And some random stranger is currently considering who exactly to save"

Curse you, DoPo!

Just when I thought people could move on from the drowning plague! XD

 

[DoPo]

This can only end swimmingly.

I can only assume you mean that as in "In a river. Next to a whirpool. And some random stranger is currently considering who exactly to save"

Curse you, DoPo!

Just when I thought people could move on from the drowning plague! XD

Plague? I'd describe it as a torrent myself. I can also settle on deluge.

 

[Something Amyss]

Origin spying on my computer sending information to EA? NO!

Yeah! Only Steam is allowed to spy on my PC!

Okay, I really don't mind this one, but the problem is.. they don't release Day 1 DLC as dlc after a few weeks. If they released pre-order bonuses/day 1 dlcs as dlcs in the future I wouldn't mind this what so ever, but they don't so BOO and shame on you!

Day One DLC doesn't mean what you think it means, I think. I['ll avoid the meme this once.

1. Day 1 DLC isn't necessarily pre-order DLC.
2. Plenty of their pre-order DLC has been released after the fact. I don't know about most or all, because I buy like one EA game a year tops.

Did you really expect IGN to run a piece that would be even remotely critical of EA?

No, of course not! Wouldn't to scare away all those EA ad dollars, especially with the Battlefield 4 Ad Blitz just around the corner! IGN would never let it's dignity get in the way of corporate sponsorship!

Like it'd drive ad dollars away. I expect one of those pop-up borders for a Jimquisition any week now sponsored by EA. Not a specific game (which has happened), but EA as a company.

"EA is worse than Hitler (sponsored by EA)"

 

[Something Amyss]

Plague? I'd describe it as a torrent myself. I can also settle on deluge.

And you can only rescue EA or a ham sandwich?

 

[Kopikatsu]

That's all that really needs to be said on the matter. I mean, really. EA winning worst company in America twice? It's just so...out there.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

They change games.
Multiplayer in Dragon Age 3/Mass Effect 3?
No, no, no. These are single player games and all there time better be spent on SINGLE PLAYER. Let the companies make the games that their fans want and it will still sell well. I don't understand why EA feels the need to change things like this to fit a "wider audience". Take a note from CD projekt. Make a good game and it will sell!

Mass Effect 3 didn't sell?


Honestly this sort of criticism baffles me. Like "How dare a company try to get more people playing their game! Those fucking bastards! I like my game being created for a niche audience because being within that niche audience makes me feel more important. Don't make the game more appealing! Don't try to attract more players! Don't try to extend the longevity of a game by adding multiplayer! Don't change up the formula I've grown comfortable with! I don't want other people liking what I like!"

That's basically what it boils down to.

*Sigh* I see your point but but the problem is that games are going to become a bunch of generic grey blob if they keep making it reach a broader audience. Do you think Baldur's Gate is for everyone? It's not. Did that mean they went to make Baldur's Gate 2 to reach more people? No. They didn't.

So let fucking games have defining qualities. I want Horror games, I want FPS, I want RPGS. I do *not* a generic glob of grey spoon feed to me because people want to play games they have no business playing to begin with.

I don't play FPS because I don't like FPS. I don't play puzzles because I don't like puzzles. Get the picture yet? If you're not into the game then don't play it making it a "Broader appeal" for people will only make games worse because once again it will turn into grey globs with no depth to them.

Dead Space was a horror game that turned into another generic shitty shooter that lost is defining qualities. So did Resident Evil.

 

[Loonyyy]

Dead horse (Calling EA-bashing threads a Dead Horse itself is a dead horse at this point), old article, which I'm pretty sure there were threads about at the time of it's publication, to tangentially connect to a rant about EA, which most of us already agree with anyway.

The point of this was? Apart from another rant? Let it die. No-one is getting anything from this.

 

[DoPo]

Day One DLC doesn't mean what you think it means, I think. I['ll avoid the meme this once.

1. Day 1 DLC isn't necessarily pre-order DLC.
2. Plenty of their pre-order DLC has been released after the fact. I don't know about most or all, because I buy like one EA game a year tops.

Meh, the only recent EA games I've played are Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 1 and 2. And if I mention Mirror's Edge and Spore, that covers anything that can be considered "recent" and I bought it (I didn't buy DA:O, though). Of these only the RPGs there had some DLCs of note and from what I can also tell, they aren't too dissimilar to other EA games. I did read about some of the pre-order DLCs for DA:O/Mass Effect and they were crap. Heck, I borrowed DA:O from a friend who had the pre-order DLCs (dunno how many of them) and saw they were crap for myself. It was few armour pieces, and some other equipment you got straight from the start. It was either junk, or about on-par with other on-game equipment, although I recall there being an armour set that was the only one I'd consider worth it - you had to get the different pieces of it first (you started off with a helmet and a note that led you to a quest, IIRC) and it actually had merit in being used. Although that could have also been a regular DLC not a pre-order one, dunno.

Mass Effect also had similar things - you got a weapon or two and and armour, I think. Haven't really seen them, but I'd hazard a guess that they are inconsequential. Albeit, I'd say that some weapons could spice up the arsenal in ME2, for there was roughly two (or was it three?) of each gun - quite boring.

Anyway, from what I know, the pre-order DLCs are shiny trinkets at best, useless, inconsequential baubles otherwise. I'm not sure why one would buy or want them. I suppose if a buddy had a birthday coming up, I could just gift them some DLCs - that might work, but I'm not sure why one would otherwise want them. To give EA more money? Wouldn't...that something people demanding the DLC from EA would not actually want to do?

 

[Something Amyss]

Anyway, from what I know, the pre-order DLCs are shiny trinkets at best, useless, inconsequential baubles otherwise. I'm not sure why one would buy or want them. I suppose if a buddy had a birthday coming up, I could just gift them some DLCs - that might work, but I'm not sure why one would otherwise want them. To give EA more money? Wouldn't...that something people demanding the DLC from EA would not actually want to do?

Selling tiny packs of content seems to be a wet dream. THQ, Squeenix, Activision all seem to do it. So I have no idea why EA wouldn't. And at the same time, I wonder why people want this AS they complain about DLC.

Still, I'm against the pre-order bonus as it stands, so I doubt I'll pay extra just to reward the business practice myself.

Uh, I don't think anyone makes a game to be niche.

Technically true, but you don't get games like Guitar Hero or Dynasty Warriors (I suppose technically a cop-out since they sell well in Japan) or Mirror's Edge (even if I don't care for it) or even the lion's share of the indie market if you don't have people who seek to do games that invariably fill a niche. Or, at the very least, games that won't have immediate mass-market appeal.

They might be intended to reach as many people as possible, but "possible" seems to differ. After all, the fact that we still have some games that aren't samey brown shooters with gruff brown-haired thirty-something men as protagonists indicates people aren't necessarily willing to compromise the structure of their games to reach the theoretical market saturation.

When you do that, you end up with something like Mass Effect 3's ending.

 

[Coldsnap]

Plague? I'd describe it as a torrent myself. I can also settle on deluge.

And you can only rescue EA or a ham sandwich?

Clearly you save the ham sandwich. You might love EA like it's a real ham sandwich, but how would you feel if you were the ham sandwich and someone decided to save their EA over you?

Besides all EAs do are bark like fools and urinate in your house and I can't see why anyone would care for them.

In short people who would save an EA are misanthropes who should be beaten with the soggy ham sandwiches they didn't have the heart to save.

 

[Reyold]

I really don't get the obsession people have with EA. Is it that hard to ignore the company, and spend your money elsewhere?

Yes, because, quite frankly, we love to hate. Though I'd hope you'd have the sense to spend your money elsewhere.

After reading your post, I've decided I'm just gonna ignore EA. Oh, hey, is that another EA thread? No thanks, I'm good.

I remember when that article was on IGN... makes me old for some reason.