Why do people hate Ewoks?

[EWOKLOVER]

witha little bit of stern force thrown in there

 

[EWOKLOVER]

and leave me alone

 

[Gatx]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

 

[Saladfork]

I think they could've had the ewoks AND had the empire retain some shred of dignity if they had established the the ewoks massively outnumbered the empire's troops and also had ore scenes of abject slaughter when the empire started getting its' shit together again.

On another note, apparantly that scene was meant to have wookies instead of the ewoks. As annoying as the ewoks are, if you want an inkling of how much worse a similar number of wookies would be... well, go watch the star wars holiday special.

(Actually, don't. Really. Don't. Trust me on this one.)

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I entered this thread thinking "I could mention how the original battle was supposed to be Wookies, but Lucas changed it to Ewoks because they were more kid friendly and marketable" But to my surprise I found someone who already made that point, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

True Story:

It was originally supposed to be the Wookies that the squad met, not the Ewoks, so the finale of ROTJ would have been an epic battle between hundreds of Wookies and Stormtroopers.
Lucas changed it because Ewoks were more marketable to children, and would sell better as merchandise. He also forfeited his fees in ROTJ and instead took 100% control of the merchandising, it's an incredibly smart business move, but his reliance on merchandise has been to the detriment of his films.

Well said me from the past. Couldn't have put it better myself. Damn Necros

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

Put up a fight, sure. Win it? Eh...

 

[Gatx]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

Put up a fight, sure. Win it? Eh...

Then you have to take into account that they were fighting with rebel forces as well, presumably a sizeable amount since they were initially going to destroy the shield generator themselves.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

Put up a fight, sure. Win it? Eh...

Then you have to take into account that they were fighting with rebel forces as well, presumably a sizeable amount since they were initially going to destroy the shield generator themselves.

Fair enough, but I still can't get over the fact that the Imperial forces were beaten by the Rebels and their Ewok buddies. These are the same Stormtroopers that wiped out EVERY Jedi in the galaxy some 20 years ago.

 

[Gatx]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

Put up a fight, sure. Win it? Eh...

Then you have to take into account that they were fighting with rebel forces as well, presumably a sizeable amount since they were initially going to destroy the shield generator themselves.

Fair enough, but I still can't get over the fact that the Imperial forces were beaten by the Rebels and their Ewok buddies. These are the same Stormtroopers that wiped out EVERY Jedi in the galaxy some 20 years ago.

Sorry, I'm being that guy at this point, but they're also not the same Stormtroopers. At some point between Episodes III and IV, cloning was outlawed and the Empire slowly started to just recruit people into the military. At some point clones became the minority. Presumably that's just to explain why the Stormtroopers didn't have New Zealand accents, and the fact that no one thought Han and Luke's voices when disguised as Stormtroopers was out of place. So yeah, the guys in RotJ are not the same specially bred for war clones as in Episodes II and III.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I hate the idea of the ewoks, but I mean, they're there so. Also that scene where that one Ewok tries to wake up it's dead buddy always gets me.

I think the whole "Ewoks are really the Viet Cong" is some half-baked BS concocted by Lucas to justify an otherwise unlikely scenario of the furry, cuddly forces of good owning the infinitely better prepared forces of evil.

I think that's a perfectly acceptable explanation. Since when does cute = weak? We know that these are sentient creatures, they hunt game, can set traps, and know how to wage war, so why wouldn't they at least put up a fight?

Put up a fight, sure. Win it? Eh...

Then you have to take into account that they were fighting with rebel forces as well, presumably a sizeable amount since they were initially going to destroy the shield generator themselves.

Fair enough, but I still can't get over the fact that the Imperial forces were beaten by the Rebels and their Ewok buddies. These are the same Stormtroopers that wiped out EVERY Jedi in the galaxy some 20 years ago.

Sorry, I'm being that guy at this point, but they're also not the same Stormtroopers. At some point between Episodes III and IV, cloning was outlawed and the Empire slowly started to just recruit people into the military. At some point clones became the minority. Presumably that's just to explain why the Stormtroopers didn't have New Zealand accents, and the fact that no one thought Han and Luke's voices when disguised as Stormtroopers was out of place. So yeah, the guys in RotJ are not the same specially bred for war clones as in Episodes II and III.

Seems like a lot of "buts" to justify a crap ending. "It wasn't just the Ewoks, it was the Ewoks and Han Solo and Chewie; and the Ewoks are really Viet Cong, who overcame that one war at a heavier loss than the Ewoks ever suffered, over practically a decade as opposed to one measly assault in which a SINGLE Ewok got killed... oh and the Stormtroopers aren't what they used to be, etc"? I'm not calling you on it, my beef is with Lucas and his lame attempts at making saves. Also, aren't they the same Stormtroopers that beat the crap out of the whole Rebel alliance at Hoth like a year ago?

 

[Gatx]

Seems like a lot of "buts" to justify a crap ending. "It wasn't just the Ewoks, it was the Ewoks and Han Solo and Chewie; and the Ewoks are really Viet Cong, who overcame that one war at a heavier loss than the Ewoks ever suffered, over practically a decade as opposed to one measly assault in which a SINGLE Ewok got killed... oh and the Stormtroopers aren't what they used to be, etc"? I'm not calling you on it, my beef is with Lucas and his lame attempts at making saves. Also, aren't they the same Stormtroopers that beat the crap out of the whole Rebel alliance at Hoth like a year ago?

Actually I wasn't saying that as an explanation as to why the Ewoks won, or at least not specifically, since it could be used as evidence. I mainly just wanted to give some more clarification on the history Stormtroopers.

Though the Stormtroopers that stormed Hoth at least supposedly included the 501st Legion, which was Vader's handpicked, best of the best, cream of the crop, etc. group. I was under the impression that it was this same group that was on Endor, since the Emperor said an entire "legion" of his "best troops", but can't find any evidence to support that.

But yeah, no, if you don't care for justification you don't have to go for. We all know the reason the Ewoks won was because they're cute, and an army of cute things can't lose in a PG rated family blockbuster.