Ive think people just like bitching about them and act so overly dramatic and exaggerating. Reading the comments on previous threads about these games, it seems i must be the only person that has had an unbugged version of both those games. Yes their are issues, but they are easily overlooked and has never made the game "unplayable" or "broken". Maybe im just lucky? Maybe people like to bash whats popular or what other people love? Or maybe its just hatred due to the changing of a one beloved series? I guess its down to the fact people hate change more than Bethesda. We had this with Deus Ex, soon again with Xcom and Syndicate.....all three are remakes of loved series, all three now changed but should be judged in their own rights and not on some exaggerated loved for a title from your past. An lets be honest, the original Deus Ex, X-Com, Sydicate, Fallout and even Morrowind all had their issues, bugs and negative issues. Just we overlook them and remember what we liked.