Why do people want to be immortal?
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When you get older, your perception of time gets quicker. It's why school seems like forever for a kid but a day for an adult. You would see civilizations rise and fall right before your eyes, very quickly.
You would have the most rich and powerful people wanting to hunt you down and take you to a secret lab to dissect you and find how you are immortal. You would literally have armies after you.
The reason the elderly get senile is because they have so many memories in their brain and no way to get rid of them. They have so many by the time they are old that they can not function anymore. You will be that times a million. Your head would explode.
You would have the most rich and powerful people wanting to hunt you down and take you to a secret lab to dissect you and find how you are immortal. You would literally have armies after you.
The reason the elderly get senile is because they have so many memories in their brain and no way to get rid of them. They have so many by the time they are old that they can not function anymore. You will be that times a million. Your head would explode.
Well, death is scary. It would be great to see what happens in the future, how far humans are gonna go, and how long humans would last. Wouldn't it be awesome to have watched the greatest movie, played the greatest game, or read the greatest book in human history, and know FOR SURE that it was the greatest of all time?
Chances are, you haven't experienced the greatest things that will ever be made.
Sure, if you add all those details of the shittiness of immortality, then yeah, immortality sounds shitty.
When you FIRST thought of immortality, did you think of how shitty immortality would be? No, you thought immortality would rock. That's why people want to be immortal, because they haven't thought of all those crazy bad things.
Chances are, you haven't experienced the greatest things that will ever be made.
Sure, if you add all those details of the shittiness of immortality, then yeah, immortality sounds shitty.
When you FIRST thought of immortality, did you think of how shitty immortality would be? No, you thought immortality would rock. That's why people want to be immortal, because they haven't thought of all those crazy bad things.
I think I could put up with going insane at the end of the universe in exchange for a few million years of having an eternally youthful body, and getting to play with super awesome things like holodecks in the future.
I mean, at the end of it all when your alone in the universe, going mad might not be so bad. You could construct your own fantasy scenario where there are still people around and you live with them. Or you could simple stop being aware of anything, thats a sort of death.
I mean, at the end of it all when your alone in the universe, going mad might not be so bad. You could construct your own fantasy scenario where there are still people around and you live with them. Or you could simple stop being aware of anything, thats a sort of death.
One would hope that, given an eternity to live, one would have the foresight to prepare for the end of the Solar system's life cycle. You know, build a space ship or something. I figure space travel will be in our reach by then.lionrwal said:
Why is that? We've survived past the dawn of nuclear energy, which is a feat in itself. Why do you think that mankind will assuredly go extinct in the future?lionrwal said:
Then why does your endgame for immortality involve sitting on Earth, alone, until being left without a planet and drifting in space forever? Even with the label attached to it, 'forever' is an awfully long time to never encounter any of the other species you seem to think exist, and that's assuming you somehow didn't encounter them prior.lionrwal said:
Erm...what? My question was more about what fictional source you're using to induce the immortality in the first place. Like, was it some sort of magic, a Faustian deal, or what? Because if it's something else that other people could conceivably use, that could potentially do away with the 'alone forever' thing.lionrwal said:
Because dead people can't tell the living what death is like and whether it is cool or it sucks. Since people are generally scared of the unknown, being immortal sounds better than death, as they know they like living enough to do more of it.lionrwal said:
Were I immortal, the first few scores would be awesome, doing everything ever. After those years, it would get really boring. At that point, I'd likely push the world toward interstellar travel, find other immortals and set up an immortals dating service (Maybe name it Aeon-Harmony, who knows).
I see the world like a big book. Things are always happening and someone discovered this or invents that, i wish i was immortal just so i could read and see everything that's happening and everything that will happen.
i mean, only reading a book for 100+ chapters isnt even skimming the surface~ :3
i mean, only reading a book for 100+ chapters isnt even skimming the surface~ :3
Probably because I fear death and I am skeptical about any kind of afterlife (I want to believe though).
Also, being immortal would be pretty sweet - I would not try to hide my powers like Clark Kent. I would walk right into speeding traffic in Times Square where there are tens of thousands of people with cameras and phones. After videos of me go viral, I would become a demigod. I would start out fighting terrorism and extremism around the world, but slowly I would become more and more warped by my power. It would end with me taking on the police in a climactic battle while trying to abscond with bags of money and attractive women, and then finally getting captured and sealed in an underground government bunker.
Also, being immortal would be pretty sweet - I would not try to hide my powers like Clark Kent. I would walk right into speeding traffic in Times Square where there are tens of thousands of people with cameras and phones. After videos of me go viral, I would become a demigod. I would start out fighting terrorism and extremism around the world, but slowly I would become more and more warped by my power. It would end with me taking on the police in a climactic battle while trying to abscond with bags of money and attractive women, and then finally getting captured and sealed in an underground government bunker.
Immortality is worse than death...
1. When you're immortal, humanity will continue to evolve, while you stay the way you are. Give or take a few million years you will become a freak.
2. NOBODY must find out, lest you be subject to properly inhumane treatment. Take a guess at which governments would want to harness the power of immortality.
3. You will go freaking insane... Assuming by immortality you mean that you can't get sick either, so Alzheimer's or dementia would not be a factor, but you will still go insane. You will have infinite lifetimes of experiences and boundless knowledge. Your brain (as amazing as it will be) Won't cope, and will break down. So when you wish for immortality, better wish for a super brain too.
4. Everyone you will ever, or have loved will die. So you can't get attracted to anything, and I mean anything. Over a period of millions or billions of years, the things you love will decay and become lost.
5. You'll eventually get trapped somewhere. Picture it, you fall down a well. That's it. You are now down there for x amount of minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, you name it. You may get found, but this is a short sighted view. Think of this... Humanity has gained the technology to space travel. You are in a ship, it explodes, you will be cascaded out into the blackness of space. What the shit do you do then? Wait millions of years until a astral bodies gravitational field picks you up? Then what? You're stuck on a rock that probably is inhospitable to 100% of life. Great, enjoy your immortality great insane freak sage hermit of a small rock in the outer rim. You can spend your days training small monkey boy space travelers that happen to pick up your life signs Karate.
There is no 'if' that all this will happen, because it will happen. It's the science of probability. When you have an infinite lifespan, infinite numbers of things can happen. Can you guys really handle that?
1. When you're immortal, humanity will continue to evolve, while you stay the way you are. Give or take a few million years you will become a freak.
2. NOBODY must find out, lest you be subject to properly inhumane treatment. Take a guess at which governments would want to harness the power of immortality.
3. You will go freaking insane... Assuming by immortality you mean that you can't get sick either, so Alzheimer's or dementia would not be a factor, but you will still go insane. You will have infinite lifetimes of experiences and boundless knowledge. Your brain (as amazing as it will be) Won't cope, and will break down. So when you wish for immortality, better wish for a super brain too.
4. Everyone you will ever, or have loved will die. So you can't get attracted to anything, and I mean anything. Over a period of millions or billions of years, the things you love will decay and become lost.
5. You'll eventually get trapped somewhere. Picture it, you fall down a well. That's it. You are now down there for x amount of minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, you name it. You may get found, but this is a short sighted view. Think of this... Humanity has gained the technology to space travel. You are in a ship, it explodes, you will be cascaded out into the blackness of space. What the shit do you do then? Wait millions of years until a astral bodies gravitational field picks you up? Then what? You're stuck on a rock that probably is inhospitable to 100% of life. Great, enjoy your immortality great insane freak sage hermit of a small rock in the outer rim. You can spend your days training small monkey boy space travelers that happen to pick up your life signs Karate.
There is no 'if' that all this will happen, because it will happen. It's the science of probability. When you have an infinite lifespan, infinite numbers of things can happen. Can you guys really handle that?
You say that now, but wait when you're on your death bed, and someone gives you the option to live for just a little longer, no strings attached. You will always pick the "live a little longer" option, and then you'll pick it again, and again, and again.
Of course watching the sun die would suck. Then you would hop in a spaceship and fly off to another planet. You're immortal, so the travel time isn't really a huge problem.
Plus, I don't see us ever developing Wolverine's healing factor. So don't worry, you won't be floating in space.
Of course watching the sun die would suck. Then you would hop in a spaceship and fly off to another planet. You're immortal, so the travel time isn't really a huge problem.
Plus, I don't see us ever developing Wolverine's healing factor. So don't worry, you won't be floating in space.
Being immortal would be great because it would, in my interpretation of it, mean freedom from disease, aging and physical ailments.
However that's merely the practical level. Metaphysically, the mental effects would be incalculable. Our entire system of thought is based around a finite existence. The meaning of everything would fundamentally be altered. People are only opposed to immortality because they're looking at it from a mortal point of view. It's a hypothetical circumstance that's impossible to evaluate in any meaningful way.
However that's merely the practical level. Metaphysically, the mental effects would be incalculable. Our entire system of thought is based around a finite existence. The meaning of everything would fundamentally be altered. People are only opposed to immortality because they're looking at it from a mortal point of view. It's a hypothetical circumstance that's impossible to evaluate in any meaningful way.
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the suns not really in danger of esploding anytime soon, like a LONG freaking time in the future.
so .....
who says we'll still be on this rock, or even in this solar system by then? cause, I'll remind you of how far we've come technologically in the last 100 years. give us another 100,
see how far things are along then.OT: I'd wanna be immortal (in the sence 'time' can't kill me, but some jerk off with a gun or knife could) just to see where we end up going. i mean, really, look how far we've advanced in the last 100 years, TELL me you wouldn't wanna see where we'd end up going
Immortallity falls through for me for two reasons.
1. My loved ones would all die.
2. What if I was horribly injured to the point of severely handicapped and had to live forever like that? Suicide wouldn't even be an option because i would be immortal, only crappily so.
1. My loved ones would all die.
2. What if I was horribly injured to the point of severely handicapped and had to live forever like that? Suicide wouldn't even be an option because i would be immortal, only crappily so.
What say I? You're trolling. With the stipulations you've added to your state of immortality, you CAN NOT be immortal. You say that all the damage that would be rendered to a normal human still applies. Meaning that "experiencing the pain of the Earth being engulfed by the Sun" would not happen. You would be utterly annihilated, and nothing would be left of your being. You're dead. Even if you survived the Sun's supernova, the force would blast you out into the depths of space, where you would be ravaged and destroyed by absolute zero temperatures and the vacuum of space.lionrwal said:
Don't reply with the "all that would happen but you'd still be alive" nonsense you give to others. What would you be? A disembodied consciousness? Impossible. You use laws of science to aid your argument, well you need a physical brain to think and to "be". So no, you're just dead by your own logic.
The reason people associate immortality with invulnerability is because if you can still take damage, then you can still, at some point, be completely and utterly destroyed, rendering you dead in all respects. Thus defying the original definition of immortal, which makes you unable to die by any means or methods at all.
The term you seek regarding never aging or dying as a result of such, but can still take damage and be externally killed, is called Ageless.
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R: OP is trollin'.