Why Do Seemingly Popular Shows Get Canceled So Quickly?

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HyenaThePirate

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It has disturbed me for quite some time how quickly it seems tv shows get canceled these days, often within only a handful of seasons, and unfortunately, often when they are just hitting their stride. Some shows have concepts that take time to build upon and flesh out with great opportunity for exploration and expansion but are aborted far too early. The most popular example of this is Firefly, probably the most recognized series that everyone I ever encounter seems to have watched and liked but found itself removed from tv far too soon. At least we got a closing movie for that, some series, like NBC's Journeyman and Knight Rider and My Own Worst Enemy didn't even get that much.

Now it seems Heroes is probably done for good, although there could be much arguing about whether the show hit a death spiral from bad writing and pace before it's end. The Battlestar Spin-off Caprica is apparently looking down the barrel of the cancellation gun, Legend of the Seeker (a guilty pleasure favorite of mine) possibly won't see a 3rd season (although the final episodes of season 2 were satisfying enough), Flash Forward may be gone in a flash (couldnt resist the pun), Eleventh Hour ran out of time (although the UK version was far superior), Happy Town didn't make anyone smile (although it's twin peaks inspired style and pacing were JUST starting to hit a stride and draw interest), Terminator was terminated, Dollhouse has been evicted... the list goes on and on.

Are tv channels seriously expecting every show to be a 100% top hit in its time slot period as the only way to keep it around? Are they considering the fact that people might be tivoing all of these shows to watch at their own pace? Personally, I like to tv shows and watch them when I have 5 or more episodes queued up, like a mini-marathon, so I don't have to sit around waiting week after week.

If this trend continues, I may just stop watching new shows altogether. I'm growing quite tired of becoming invested in a new series just to have the rug pulled from under me at the last minute.
Is anyone else getting fed up with this?
 

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HyenaThePirate said:
It has disturbed me for quite some time how quickly it seems tv shows get canceled these days, often within only a handful of seasons, and unfortunately, often when they are just hitting their stride. Some shows have concepts that take time to build upon and flesh out with great opportunity for exploration and expansion but are aborted far too early. The most popular example of this is Firefly, probably the most recognized series that everyone I ever encounter seems to have watched and liked but found itself removed from tv far too soon. At least we got a closing movie for that, some series, like NBC's Journeyman and Knight Rider and My Own Worst Enemy didn't even get that much.

Now it seems Heroes is probably done for good, although there could be much arguing about whether the show hit a death spiral from bad writing and pace before it's end. The Battlestar Spin-off Caprica is apparently looking down the barrel of the cancellation gun, Legend of the Seeker (a guilty pleasure favorite of mine) possibly won't see a 3rd season (although the final episodes of season 2 were satisfying enough), Flash Forward may be gone in a flash (couldnt resist the pun), Eleventh Hour ran out of time (although the UK version was far superior), Happy Town didn't make anyone smile (although it's twin peaks inspired style and pacing were JUST starting to hit a stride and draw interest), Terminator was terminated, Dollhouse has been evicted... the list goes on and on.

Are tv channels seriously expecting every show to be a 100% top hit in its time slot period as the only way to keep it around? Are they considering the fact that people might be tivoing all of these shows to watch at their own pace? Personally, I like to tv shows and watch them when I have 5 or more episodes queued up, like a mini-marathon, so I don't have to sit around waiting week after week.

If this trend continues, I may just stop watching new shows altogether. I'm growing quite tired of becoming invested in a new series just to have the rug pulled from under me at the last minute.
Is anyone else getting fed up with this?
Hey, you missed one: FIREFLY.
that said, I must kneel down and pray to every god both evil and good in the universe that legend of the seeker is being cancelled, i read the series that started it and the show was such a poor mockery, that i literally laughed until i cryed when i watched the first episode. even now, over a year later I still feel a little nauseous when i think of how badly they mangled not only the plotling, but the characters as well. sorry, i ranted a little, but legend of the seeker makes me do that.
 

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To be honest its probably because there are simply too many shows. On the other hand i do not know why they cancel good shows like Firefly or popular ones like Heroes (see what i did there?). Maybe it's just the Writers running out of ideas after a couple seasons. Still, as long as they keep Chuck, im perfectly happy.
 

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1. I did mention Firefly... look at my first paragraph.

2. I felt the same way about the Legend of the Seeker as you did... the first few episodes of the first season were... off-putting. I almost gave up on it, but thanks to the attractiveness of the female characters and my fanboy affection for Bruce Spence, I kept with it. As the series progressed, i simply accepted that it was a different take on the original story. Other mediums have taken liberties with the original source material and I have learned to like those: GI Joe was a great movie, Transformers 1 was "ok"... The Batman movies have been decent enough with their new spin on things, and Kick-Ass was pretty entertaining even though it missed most of the important things from the Comic. I am Legend was still ok as was V for Vendetta, and Human Target is a wonderful series.

So Sometimes the source material doesn't need to be followed word for word to be enjoyable. This happens all the time in Anime... the manga is often vastly different than the OVA or series, but that isn't always a bad thing. Legend of the Seeker got MUCH better as things went on and became it's own sort of thing and after accepting these differences I became a great fan of the series, especially season 2.
 

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spartan231490 said:
HyenaThePirate said:
Hey, you missed one: FIREFLY.
Do you read things? Because he actually didn't.

TV does, in fact, take risks despite many people complaining about shows being clones and there being nothing new. Those shows get cancelled because while there is a huge fanbase, they just aren't watched.
Television, ironically, used to be a medium of non-instant gratification. You would have to wait until the appropriate time, sit down, watch it through the commercials, and pay attention. Now, with the era of Tivo, the internet, etc., people can ignore commercials, watch it whenever they want, nearly anywhere they want, and if they missed a bit, it doesn't matter because they could just backtrack to the bit they missed.
Because of this, if the show doesn't deliver comforting(dull) and familiar(dull) settings, characters, plots, etc., then it doesn't last long.
 

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Fiend13 said:
To be honest its probably because there are simply too many shows. On the other hand i do not know why they cancel good shows like Firefly or popular ones like Heroes (see what i did there?). Maybe it's just the Writers running out of ideas after a couple seasons. Still, as long as they keep Chuck, im perfectly happy.
I DO see what you did there ;)
You know, Heroes wasn't exactly a PERFECT show, but it was ok in areas.. Sylar at one point was the greatest tv villain of the time in my opinion much like Benjamin Linus was on Lost. They were characters with a depth that exceeded anything else on their respective shows... unfortunately, I don't think the writers really knew what to DO with those characters after they turned out so well. Just like in comic books, the next step seemed to be to the inevitable "bad guy" becomes "not so bad guy" becomes "bad guy who is really a good guy from a certain perspective" evolution. Sometimes bad guys are cool simply because they are bad guys. I mean, it would be only a matter of time before someone made the Joker into a "anti-hero" just because he's soooo likeable as a villain if there was a Batman tv series.
 

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Don't know about you but i came to think that the last episode of Legend of the Seeker was pretty weak. Though it made sense there it felt like a forced and precipitant ending to me.
 

HyenaThePirate

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Fiend13 said:
Don't know about you but i came to think that the last episode of Legend of the Seeker was pretty weak. Though it made sense there it felt like a forced and precipitant ending to me.
I think it felt that way because they weren't sure they'd have a 3rd season. I think a lot of shows are starting to take this approach to their season finales.. we may be seeing the end of the 'season finale cliffhanger' because many shows aren't sure they'll be able to continue the story so they give some semblance of an 'ending' that is left open ended to allow for more later.
Flash Gordon on Sci Fi channel was another show like this, and so was Merlin although Merlin is now on Sci Fi.

I think American television is just picking up the queue from UK tv, which usually ends a series with a decent enough resolution that if there are no more seasons, you can live with the ending, just like Anime does. Torchwood, Demons, and Being Human are great examples of this... each Season effectively ended the show in its final episode and have had either mini-series or a second season commissioned to continue things in short, complete additions.
 

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Fiend13 said:
To be honest its probably because there are simply too many shows. On the other hand i do not know why they cancel good shows like Firefly or popular ones like Heroes (see what i did there?). Maybe it's just the Writers running out of ideas after a couple seasons. Still, as long as they keep Chuck, im perfectly happy.
Have to disagree with you anout Chuck, while the show is epic they brought the plot to an end in series 2, but the show didn't die. Instead series 3 starts making Chuck an actual spy, undermining a lot of the charm the show had. Then evrything seemed to be brought together again at couple of episodes before the 3 finale. I haven't watched past then yet though, but the episode where
{Chuck shoots Shaw}
had all the hallmarks of a series finale. I'd say Chuck is suffering from the opposite of what happened to Firefly, being forced to carry on when it should have been allowed to pass gracefully.
 

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Just because a show gets watched a lot doesn't necessarily mean that the networks know it's getting watched a lot. I think nielson is the name of the biggest survey that's designed to figure out what shows are getting watched, but the truth is that there's only a select demographic of people who bother to fill out the nielson surveys, and as such only the shows that are watched by that particular demographic get good ratings, while other shows (whose demographic audience might not be so inclined to turn in surveys) do not get good ratings, and ultimately get canceled as a result.
 

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That was with me and reaper..and wolverine and the x-men (guilty pleasure)!

ALthough I have seen the inverse: Supernatural was ment to end at season 5. But they just haddd to extend it because of the ratings. DAMNN UU!!! Have to wait another year for the answers
 

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Mukil said:
That was with me and reaper..and wolverine and the x-men (guilty pleasure)!

ALthough I have seen the inverse: Supernatural was ment to end at season 5. But they just haddd to extend it because of the ratings. DAMNN UU!!! Have to wait another year for the answers
Man, I forgot about Reaper... yet another great show killed before its time.
 

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I remember when this happened to Jericho. Man, I enjoyed that show.

I don't know why it happens, but that's life. It's unfair.
 

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for the large parts these really good shows that were cancelled were marketed bad, or only became popular after the cancellation. And Heroes definently deserved it. For example I have heard of the name dollhouse, but have no clue what it's about.
 

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The average television series is about 3-5 seasons. After that, people tend to get bored with shows and stop watching, or the writers start running out of ideas and the show turns to shit.
 

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As long as Criminal Minds is still going strong I'm happy with everything T.V. Seriously, the guy that even thinks about suggesting the cancellation of my show will find a severely jet-lagged me standing outside his door, murderous look in eyes, dual-welded machetes in hand.

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