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RyQ_TMC

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How fat are we saying here? Fat as in John Candy (RIP) fat or fat as in "lots of people in real life" fat (i.e. ~7-10 kg overweight)? Because if the former, then it's rather obvious. Lack the overall fitness to escape the monster/dodge the blow/fight for their lives. Also often rather meek (these people are often fat from early in their lives, and therefore laughed at for years) and therefore unlikely to fight back if the villain decides to "make an example". The second option would be much less obvious, since with today's availability of food and overall sedentary lifestyle, a lot of those people would not be significantly less fit than your "optimal weight" ones. In fact, a lot of them would be fitter than average, since (A) the social stigma associated with being overweight pushes them to do more exercise (B) people who do a lot of sports when younger tend to expand in later years, since they do less exercise (still enough to keep fit, though) while retaining their eating habits from the time when they needed more calories.
 

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First I understand movie stereotypes, and that was more or less my comment. And not even about the lead role. And I was making a humorous observation, or at least to my self about their roles or treatments. If you haven't seen the family guy Star Wars episode, you might not know what I mean. But in both the original Star Wars (New Hope), we all know the big guy crammed into the little jet bites it and they remake this in the cartoon. I saw it it again in Phantom Menance, just not as extreme.

I am not talking John Candy type guys in most sense. Hitch is a good observation though and has been on tv, should have recalled. I was more thinking of the horror count-down too. Start off with 10, and you just watch them get picked off, usually race, accent, size, looks go first. Nothing wrong with this concept, other than Scream also alluded to this method in a humorous fashion.

I need to watch Zombieland.. When does that come out on Blue Ray?

So to add additional insight, who do you think get mostly "abused" in movies?
 

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Tiny116 said:
Just watch Zombie land, it's rule number one mate. XD
yeah i was going to say that as well

Rule #1 for Zombieland applies well why they die first, i think they even mention it as well
 

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Trivun said:
Watch 'Hitch'. Kevin James, the fat guy, manages to land a date, a relationship, and even manages to

marry the girl

with Amber Valletta's character:


Oh deary me, I think I just broke your thread...

[small]That said, he is helped by Will Smith, so maybe this is the sole exception to the rule...[/small]
You didn't break it... You destroyed it!
 

pyrokitsune777

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Well it's basically a result of the monsters prioritizing targets and the film industry attempting to show the perfect form of the human figure and how they shall always win except in those films that they decide to uses as examples that maybe obese people are humans too if only a lower form.

But then again take the case of Nerdly in Jurassic Park. He is the villain purely because of his greed for money and the fact that the original story writer hates Computers and computer techs. He in almost every way is a 3 course buffey to the smaller dinos where as the others are simply just a meal or brief snack. He also couldn't manage to out run any of the dinos anyway so ergo he's a priority target that just sits there.

As far as most stalker horror movies, well again slow target = easy target.
 

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Whytewulf said:
So I watched some movies over the weekend, and mad the overweight guys die quick in these movies. Though they do try and "cram" them into tiny ships (think Family Guy Star Wars). Stars 1,4,5 have this. Star Trek had it (though maybe it wasn't the weight but the RED SHIRT). One of these days, someone should create a "real" movie and the "husky" guy gets the girl. You know they love us... :) :rant off:
Films are morality tales and they contain coded messages about how people in society should behave, according to the morality of the society.

Fat people die quick in a film with multiple deaths because (rightly or wrongly) fat people are looked down on in our society, so according to "Hollywood morality" it's okay to kill them, nobody really wants to put up with them anyway. The directors are literally punishing them for being fat. Often the fat people will also be characterised in a slightly annoying way, so that way you like it even more when they die. Same with very sexually promiscuous women - they are always kind of whiny and loud and the first to get stabbed in a horror movie, whereas the girl who is still a virgin and behaves fairly demurely (at least until shit hits the fan) usually lives until the end credits (or if everyone dies, she's usually the last one alive).

If you start looking at films like this you'll see all sorts of messages, it'll actually make you look at films you love completely differently.
 

SturmDolch

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The slightly less attractive co-star who is the main character's best friend also always dies. I called it in Top Gun the minute he was introduced.
 

Chancie

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It's Hollywood trying to subconsciously tell everyone that you need to lose weight or you could be like that guy. (That guy being the guy that dies in the movie)
It's all just some plot to try to get people healthier. -nod nod-

Ok, I actually have no idea.
 

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Whytewulf said:
So I watched some movies over the weekend, and mad the overweight guys die quick in these movies. Though they do try and "cram" them into tiny ships (think Family Guy Star Wars). Stars 1,4,5 have this. Star Trek had it (though maybe it wasn't the weight but the RED SHIRT). One of these days, someone should create a "real" movie and the "husky" guy gets the girl. You know they love us... :) :rant off:
I think there's a movie with Seth Rogan in it that has what you're looking for
 

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Whytewulf said:
So I watched some movies over the weekend, and mad the overweight guys die quick in these movies. Though they do try and "cram" them into tiny ships (think Family Guy Star Wars). Stars 1,4,5 have this. Star Trek had it (though maybe it wasn't the weight but the RED SHIRT). One of these days, someone should create a "real" movie and the "husky" guy gets the girl. You know they love us... :) :rant off:
Sure they do...