Well that's true. The fact is though, that you don't know him, so why bother hating him. Why even waste the energy? I've got my hands full hating various douchebags I have deal with who actually affect my real life in a negative way, I don't have extra hatred allowance for some kid less than half my age who has a record out who I don't even know. Hatred is a valuable thing, it's a gift - you should save it for the targets that are truly worthy. Don't squander it on something that doesn't even affect you.Bernzz said:I'm not lining up to take a dump on his ass. I'm simply stating one of the reasons why I dislike him, which is what this thread is for.BonsaiK said:I agree. And yes, that's why him and his publicity machine is now lying about it.Bernzz said:My general point is, you did to intentionally polarise your audience. Him, being who he is, wouldn't want his audience polarised. He'd want everyone as a fan. And saying "Don't fucking touch me!" to a stranger isn't what you do when you want good publicity. Which he no doubt does.BonsaiK said:-big snip-
So he fucked up. Big deal. He's 16. I sure did a lot of stupid shit when I was 16, the only difference was there wasn't a media machine to record all my dumb shit and relay it to a world of haters who don't even personally know me all lining up to take a dump on my ass.
Y'see, I'm not using up time/energy hating him. He's simply a celebrity I dislike. I don't use time/energy disliking any other celebrity. I just dislike them, and whenever they occur to me for whatever reason, my brain recognises that I dislike them.BonsaiK said:-snip-
He's not untalented compared to most 16 year olds in music, that's for damn sure. To be honest I'm no great fan of his music or his general attitude but anyone who thinks he isn't that talented is either in denial or just not paying attention.firefly000 said:While I understand your point completely, I'd like to nitpick. I never said simple was "bad" I just said he is untalented in comparison to most musicians out there who make crap all.
Some people work hard on their music, I'm sure Beiber dosent even write his songs.
Music is subjective. I understand your points, but I still believe he isn't as talented as he is made out to be. His music is simple BUT as you've pointed out simple isnt always bad which is fair enough. But if a man shows me how he turned a rock into a digging tool, I would not be impressed. Although such a feat may have been impressive along time ago. Nothing more to add.BonsaiK said:He's not untalented compared to most 16 year olds in music, that's for damn sure. To be honest I'm no great fan of his music or his general attitude but anyone who thinks he isn't that talented is either in denial or just not paying attention.firefly000 said:While I understand your point completely, I'd like to nitpick. I never said simple was "bad" I just said he is untalented in comparison to most musicians out there who make crap all.
Some people work hard on their music, I'm sure Beiber dosent even write his songs.
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Check out the very first scene, the drumming on the chair. How fucking young is he? Fuuuuuck! The kid is a fucking natural. You have to work in music teaching to realise and appreciate just how truly freakazoid rare that is, if I had seen that home video footage I would have locked him into a ten-album deal right there and then.
A drunk cat being devoured by an elephant on LSD could sing better than him. Auto-tone just makes him sound like a smaller kid. C'mon dude, isn't it time you hit puberty?! I hit puberty when I was 12 (I'm a guy). There are thousands of people with more talent than him, but what happens to them; they don't have the means of exposure to the public; they aren't mainstream; they aren't "family friendly". I'd rather listen to grindcore than to Justin Bieber. At least grindcore has a message, like: "You shouldn't gargle infected semen." The song doesn't have to have lyrics, it has to have quality, and that is something he clearly lacks.LawlessSquirrel said:He's obnoxious about his fame, and only got there through luck. That's the most likely cause as far as I can see.
Or you could blame modern cultures. Many of us are parts of cultures that have reason to be against him on some level or another. Not 'Kill the heretic!' against him, but a subtle, subconscious-influence kind of against him. Then again, that's true for most celebrities, so it's probably mostly the first thing.
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He's 16, not that it makes much difference.6unn3r said:Also he's what 14?
It does affect me, it stops me from spreading my music. I am seen as an idiot because I don't listen to mainstream music, because I listen to metal or psychedelic rock I'm seen as a lunatic in our modern society, a society who has advances in technology but is degrading in the sense of worth, spiritual worth (not really spiritual, just can't remember the right word). Now, it also stops me from getting smart pussy, not the idiots that don't even know who Pink Floyd is!BonsaiK said:Well that's true. The fact is though, that you don't know him, so why bother hating him. Why even waste the energy? I've got my hands full hating various douchebags I have deal with who actually affect my real life in a negative way, I don't have extra hatred allowance for some kid less than half my age who has a record out who I don't even know. Hatred is a valuable thing, it's a gift - you should save it for the targets that are truly worthy. Don't squander it on something that doesn't even affect you.Bernzz said:I'm not lining up to take a dump on his ass. I'm simply stating one of the reasons why I dislike him, which is what this thread is for.BonsaiK said:I agree. And yes, that's why him and his publicity machine is now lying about it.Bernzz said:My general point is, you did to intentionally polarise your audience. Him, being who he is, wouldn't want his audience polarised. He'd want everyone as a fan. And saying "Don't fucking touch me!" to a stranger isn't what you do when you want good publicity. Which he no doubt does.BonsaiK said:-big snip-
So he fucked up. Big deal. He's 16. I sure did a lot of stupid shit when I was 16, the only difference was there wasn't a media machine to record all my dumb shit and relay it to a world of haters who don't even personally know me all lining up to take a dump on my ass.
Holy shit! I literally just laughed myself to tears on that video. That is so funny, at first i felt a little bad that he got hit but when the explosion went off... hahaha!!Drakmeire said:He's untalented, never suffered for his art, doesn't know that he is in WAY over his head, thinks he's better than he really is, has no charisma, is generally unlikable, had a career handed to him on silver platter, and has a high annoying voice for singing bland uninteresting music.
I think that was the longest I've ever typed about him without going into a long incoherent mess of insults.
and this video makes me happy
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HOORAY FOR AFTER-EFFECTS!